You do have a point...puzzle experts definitely have some advantage in this test.

We had a very similar mock16 last year. While the competition has changed considerably at LMI since then, the results of mock16 suggested that 'puzzle experts' don't really have much advantage. Having solved couple of actual puzzles from the test, I think the 'Sudoku part' is as dominant as in other Sudoku tests.

Password protected booklet uploaded. It has 10 pages, each page has one 6X6 and one 9X9 of the same type.

LOGIDOKU has started.

Thanks to the authors. Nice collection of sudokuzzles and puzzledokus - of varying complexities.

Thank you very much for the nice puzzles!
Unfortunally I made a stupid mistake, and wrote my solution for the Kakuro-Sudoku (small and big) in the answer field for the japanese sums.
Is there a possibility of getting the points anyway? Would be great!

You should see the credits for Kakuro-Sudoku puzzles now.

thanks to the authors.
nice set of puzzles.
enjoyed a lot.
the big one's are excellent.
hope to improve on it in future.

Thanks a lot to organisers and authors for an excellent set of mind boggling sudokus...

I m getting multiple solutions for Kropki small

you must be doing some mistake.there is only one solution possible. detailed clarification can be done once the test is over

Thanks Swaroop for clarifying.

rvarun,
1) if you are getting multiple solutions (which I believe is impossible), please submit any of your answers.
2) don't post messages like 'there are multiple solutions or there are no solutions' before you are absolutely certain. It doesn't help anybody, rather it creates confusion.

I have entered '9' instead of '1' in the big Fence Sudoku. Any chance of getting the points for it? :|

There were some nice puzzles. I enjoyed the test. Solved a little less than I had hoped. Made a mistake in one of the puzzles, which turned out to not be one, I just missed how it could work so started over for nothing.
I switched the column and row entry for the Big Japanese Sums sudoku. Not really sure why. I was being careful with the answer keys. My other mistake was just sloppiness because of having to draw lines through the grid.

Edited by Para 2011-06-19 5:43 PM

All rows/columns swaps are considered as valid answers. There is no automatic check on that, but eventually everyone making that kind of swap will get points.

Very strange typo indeed. As discussed after Fillomino-Fillia, you get 80% of the puzzle points.

A lovely set of puzzles. Thank you very much for setting and organising this. I've made a silly typo on the large tapa - putting an 8 instead of the given 9. Can I be credited with this please? Thanks again.

Hi Liane, we haven't given points to any single digits typos (except in Tejal's case).

We probably need everyone's suggestion on how to deal with single digit typos, there are way too many in the submissions, in this test and also in previous tests.
As I see it, they can be a typo or a solving error. But to determine what kind of error it is a too difficult, and may not be possible in certain cases.
So, as of now, all Single digit typos get 0 points. It will be nice to come up some suggestion to deal with these.

Congratulations to Nikola for winning LOGIDOKU by a huge margin. He had very similar results in SPEED Sixes in last June.
Misko and uvo are very close to each other( and to several other participants), and are separated by 80 seconds. They complete the podium.

Among Indian players, Rohan stands at 11^th with a very impressive performance.

Thank you everyone for participating.

The typo is on the given hint. So, you get points. Sorry to have overlooked earlier.

Thanks for a great contest and congratulations to Nikola! There are many good Sudokus combined with other logical puzzle. My favourite puzzles in this test are Japanese Sums (bottom), Pairs (both) and Tapa (bottom).

It is regrettable that I broke 6 puzzles and wasted a lot of time to fix them. Moreover, I could not send the correct solution of Skyscrapers (bottom) by 1 second. I filled 16 cells 45 seconds before the end of the test and sent one of 2 possible solutions. I continued solving and found that my "solution" was wrong and swapped two digits in the answer form. But, when I was moving my mouse to "Submit" button, contest has ended.

If "single digit typo" is allowed, I had the option to enter the same digit twice intentionally to earn points. In Japanese Number Place Championship, competitors are required to send 4 digits in shaded cells (see here). If carefully chosen by authors, I think 4 cells are enough to judge whether each competitor solved the puzzle or not. This will evidently decrease the possibility of typos, so this is my suggestion.

Edited by deu 2011-06-20 10:09 AM

Yes, judging "single digit typo" is indeed difficult, and that is precisely the reason why we haven't given any points to them in this test (and in earlier Sudoku tests).

Entering just 4 digits (instead of 2 rows/columns) indeed will be a great step forward to eliminate typos. However, the authors have to be extremely careful in marking the cells. I am not sure if we can do it all Sudoku tests, but if authors can confidently mark 4 cells, we can try it out.

Thanks, but I am still a little surprised that no one else managed to solve all puzzles. The surprise was the greater because I lost a lot of time on the big Japanese Sums. I took a number in a black box and added it to the sum in the third column. At that moment I thought: "Oh no, not again." Fortunately, I "saw" a picture of the heart and it helped me to quickly finish the puzzle.

Deb is well observed, it is possible that the June's sun and sudoku miniatures have a positive effects on my brain. However, I'll try not to wait June 2012th for the next victory.

Many thanks to the authors! I liked the puzzles very much, especially Pairs and Tapa.

Nikola

Thanks for the nice test! I did quite well for a Sudoku contest, but then I felt I spent more time on the non-Sudoku-logic than what staring at Sudokus usually involves for me. But maybe some of the puzzles would have been easier with better Sudoku skills? I wasted a lot of time first breaking the hard Pairs and then failing to finish the hard Skyscraper in time.

I particularly liked the Pairs and Tapa variations. The Tapa one is simple enough, and feels like a far more interesting variant in the spirit of even-odd-Sudoku. I'm glad I skipped the hard Domino – it took me hours to solve after the test.

Agreed - a lot of the sudoku I tend to write (well those which aren't at an easy level at any rate) often start off with a very narrow solving path to start off with, and then end with an almost inevitable solving flurry. Rows/columns suggested by me and my testers in the path have differed wildly! It's definitely a difficult problem, and one I can certainly appreciate given I tend to make more typos than most.

Having recovered from my birthday this weekend, I look forward to giving this test a go at some point this week!