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@ 2011-05-31 6:05 PM (#4631 - in reply to #2876) (#4631) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-05-31 6:05 PM

hey thanks deb,
in the IB the start point is given at r4c5 and circle is given at r3c1 thats why it was confusing..(in solution). now its very clear with above image.
@ 2011-05-31 6:12 PM (#4632 - in reply to #2876) (#4632) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-05-31 6:12 PM

1)FOUR SNAILS
i think it can have multiple solutions...
the N of newyork is possible at r5c1,r4c1 and r6c1.
also the N and S of athens can be placed in r4c4,r4c5,r4c6,r5c5,r5c6 differently..

2)NEWS

in the solution it is given wrong and i am not getting proper solution..
in r2c3 it is W and r1c4 it is E but the rule says " directions in region should satisfy their positions with respect to each other"..
please clarify it..??
@ 2011-05-31 6:16 PM (#4633 - in reply to #4632) (#4633) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-31 6:16 PM

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-31 6:12 PM

1)FOUR SNAILS
i think it can have multiple solutions...
the N of newyork is possible at r5c1,r4c1 and r6c1.
also the N and S of athens can be placed in r4c4,r4c5,r4c6,r5c5,r5c6 differently..

I think you are missing the given "-"
There are dashes at R5C1 R5C5
You can't put a letter where dash is already present
@ 2011-05-31 6:23 PM (#4634 - in reply to #4633) (#4634) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-05-31 6:23 PM

debmohanty - 2011-05-31 6:16 PM

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-31 6:12 PM

1)FOUR SNAILS
i think it can have multiple solutions...
the N of newyork is possible at r5c1,r4c1 and r6c1.
also the N and S of athens can be placed in r4c4,r4c5,r4c6,r5c5,r5c6 differently..

I think you are missing the given "-"
There are dashes at R5C1 R5C5
You can't put a letter where dash is already present


hey srry for that it was not visible in my print out ..
and what about four snails?
@ 2011-05-31 6:26 PM (#4635 - in reply to #4634) (#4635) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-31 6:26 PM

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-31 6:23 PM
and what about four snails?

The puzzle, solution and rules match perfectly to me.
@ 2011-05-31 6:31 PM (#4637 - in reply to #4635) (#4637) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-05-31 6:31 PM

debmohanty - 2011-05-31 6:26 PM

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-31 6:23 PM
and what about four snails?

The puzzle, solution and rules match perfectly to me.


can u clarify how the region r1c3,r1c4,r2c3 satisfies the rules please..!
@ 2011-05-31 6:39 PM (#4640 - in reply to #4633) (#4640) Top

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Tejal Phatak posted @ 2011-05-31 6:39 PM

Swaroop, in "NEWS"... For W-E, it need not necessarily be in the same row. In a specific region, if you are to place W-E, just make sure W is on the left hand-side and E on the right hand-side. It may or may not be in the same row. Similarly, if you see R2C4 and R3C5, N-S they are not placed in the same column.

I hope that answers your doubt.
@ 2011-05-31 6:57 PM (#4641 - in reply to #4640) (#4641) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-05-31 6:57 PM

Tejal Phatak - 2011-05-31 6:39 PM

Swaroop, in "NEWS"... For W-E, it need not necessarily be in the same row. In a specific region, if you are to place W-E, just make sure W is on the left hand-side and E on the right hand-side. It may or may not be in the same row. Similarly, if you see R2C4 and R3C5, N-S they are not placed in the same column.

I hope that answers your doubt.


ya thank you..so it's similar for W and S /N and E ..
@ 2011-05-31 7:10 PM (#4642 - in reply to #4641) (#4642) Top

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Tejal Phatak posted @ 2011-05-31 7:10 PM

Yes
@ 2011-06-01 9:36 PM (#4652 - in reply to #2876) (#4652) Top

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vivek572 posted @ 2011-06-01 9:36 PM

Will the puzzles in the Final be exactly as shown in the Puzzle Types booklet, or will there also be variations of those mentioned?
Also, will there be only one puzzle per type, or a range of different sizes/variations?
@ 2011-06-02 6:57 AM (#4655 - in reply to #4652) (#4655) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-06-02 6:57 AM

Puzzle types will be exactly same. No more variations of even those mentioned.
In Round1 and Round2, there will be 1 puzzle from each type.
In Round3, there will be 2 puzzles from each type, one easy and one not-so

We'll publish an Information Booklet which will specify all these and the points distribution. It will take few days.
@ 2011-06-05 9:23 PM (#4709 - in reply to #4546) (#4709) Top

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zalak posted @ 2011-06-05 9:23 PM

Organisers - 2011-05-28 3:45 PM

rakesh_rai - 2011-05-28 12:17 PM

ABC Connection: Do all cells have to be used, or can some cells remain empty?

Paint-By-Number: Are the clues in the same order as seen from the given direction?

ABC Connection - You don't need to know if all cells have to be used to solve the puzzle

Paint-By-Number - Yes, clues are in order. Will change the instruction.


I had the same question for Anglers - Do all the cells have to be used or some may remain empty?

Is the answer same? ;)
@ 2011-06-05 9:29 PM (#4710 - in reply to #4709) (#4710) Top

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vopani posted @ 2011-06-05 9:29 PM

@Zalak
Count the sum of given digits outside. If its equal to the number of cells, then no blank cells :D
@ 2011-06-05 10:58 PM (#4713 - in reply to #4710) (#4713) Top

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zalak posted @ 2011-06-05 10:58 PM

Rohan Rao - 2011-06-05 9:29 PM

@Zalak
Count the sum of given digits outside. If its equal to the number of cells, then no blank cells :D


wow, thanks! never thought about it!
@ 2011-06-06 6:49 PM (#4740 - in reply to #2876) (#4740) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-06-06 6:49 PM

can any body give a bigger size of puzzle for "FIRST OR LAST" for practise.
i am facing sum problem to solve it..
@ 2011-06-07 1:20 AM (#4750 - in reply to #2876) (#4750) Top

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Organisers posted @ 2011-06-07 1:20 AM

Information Booklet (Points table, Round Timings) published - http://logicmastersindia.com/IPC2011/finals.asp

Edited by Organisers 2011-06-07 1:22 AM
@ 2011-06-07 6:06 PM (#4754 - in reply to #2876) (#4754) Top

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utkaarsh posted @ 2011-06-07 6:06 PM

For Rd 2 , the grid sizes are given in IB , can the grid size be shared for atleast the easy puzzles in Rd 3 and Rd 1 puzzles
@ 2011-06-07 6:18 PM (#4755 - in reply to #4754) (#4755) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-06-07 6:18 PM

utkaarsh - 2011-06-07 6:06 PM

For Rd 2 , the grid sizes are given in IB , can the grid size be shared for atleast the easy puzzles in Rd 3 and Rd 1 puzzles

The reason it is specified for Round2 is because I had to explain the partial points. Otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned that.

I can do that for Round1/3, but will it be really useful for you in planning / making a strategy, I'll do that. let me know.
@ 2011-06-07 6:19 PM (#4756 - in reply to #2876) (#4756) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-06-07 6:19 PM

Oh wait... may be I can't.
Many participants don't read forum, and it will be unfair to publish something about the puzzles here.
Sorry.

As such, if we publish the grid sizes beforehand, it will probably be first of its kind.
@ 2011-06-07 6:32 PM (#4757 - in reply to #2876) (#4757) Top

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utkaarsh posted @ 2011-06-07 6:32 PM

Since, i am new to puzzles, wanted to pick and choose which to concentrate on , like points grid size also indicate the complexity of a puzzle,
The grid sizes /range in some cases are surely useful, frameless sudoku, different sums, where combinations are needed
Also if posting in forum is a concern, updated IB is as an option ,open to other view points,
@ 2011-06-07 6:41 PM (#4758 - in reply to #4757) (#4758) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-06-07 6:41 PM

I must be sleeping when I wrote that we can't publish here. Obviously, as you said, we can update the IB

Utkaarsh, let me emphasize that the grid size will not reveal anything about puzzle complexity. As a sample, if I say the Frameless sudoku is 9X9, it doesn't signify anything about its complexity. It is only points that tell you more about difficulty.

For players who are new to puzzles, it is important to form a strategy to solve the types you are more comfortable with, irrespective of the grid size or points.
@ 2011-06-07 9:21 PM (#4759 - in reply to #2876) (#4759) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-06-07 9:21 PM

in "LIGHT UP"
is there any restriction on number of bulbs(as not mentioned in rules).
is it like minimum possible bulbs?
@ 2011-06-07 10:26 PM (#4761 - in reply to #4759) (#4761) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-06-07 10:26 PM

swaroop2011 - 2011-06-07 9:21 PM

in "LIGHT UP"
is there any restriction on number of bulbs(as not mentioned in rules).
is it like minimum possible bulbs?
Come on Swaroop, it is a standard puzzle, with standard instructions. I've no idea why you are confused.
@ 2011-06-07 10:34 PM (#4762 - in reply to #2876) (#4762) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-06-07 10:34 PM

hey srry for that but i dont know i was thinking something different at that time.
it's fine now with that.
@ 2011-06-08 7:35 PM (#4778 - in reply to #2876) (#4778) Top

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davmillar posted @ 2011-06-08 7:35 PM

Hey everyone. Today on The Griddle I posted a new puzzle that may serve as good practice for the masyu-fence puzzle:

Shotgun Slitherlink

In this variation there's one additional twist: all the numeric clues consist of a 2 directly to the left of a 3, to form several instances of "23" throughout the grid. Every place that a 23 can legally be placed in the grid, the clues are given.

I also have additional masyu-fence puzzles (that I call "shotgun slitherlink") on my site which you can find here.

Happy puzzling!

Edited by davmillar 2011-06-08 7:36 PM
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