Thread - Indian Puzzle Championship

@ 2011-05-13 11:13 PM (#4401 - in reply to #4389) (#4401) Top

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bansalparijat posted @ 2011-05-13 11:13 PM

Hi,

Seems like common issue, I too didn't recieved any email, however I got a mail from Bangalore Coordinator. Please let me know if the printout of that will be enough?

@ 2011-05-14 1:05 AM (#4402 - in reply to #2876) (#4402) Top

oldmonk

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oldmonk posted @ 2011-05-14 1:05 AM

People using gmail. Please check your spam folder. I retrieved the mails from there.

@ 2011-05-19 6:28 PM (#4447 - in reply to #2876) (#4447) Top

rajibrborah

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rajibrborah posted @ 2011-05-19 6:28 PM

I finished 3rd in the regional round (puzzle category) at IIT Bombay.

At IIT Bombay, we were informed that the top 3 will qualify for the national finals - was relaxed about the whole thing till today when I saw the list of invitations, and found that it did not incorporate this top 3 per region rule.

I was looking at another thread, and it seems that the declaration "top 3 = qualification for nationals" was indeed made elsewhere as well.
(adityasaraf007's post in http://www.logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=2...)

Now, I don't know what to do as I did not participate in the online round either.

@ 2011-05-19 6:34 PM (#4448 - in reply to #4447) (#4448) Top

Organisers

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Organisers posted @ 2011-05-19 6:34 PM

Rajib, check your inbox

@ 2011-05-22 12:42 PM (#4477 - in reply to #2876) (#4477) Top

sanket

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sanket posted @ 2011-05-22 12:42 PM

Hi
Now that the Sudoku Instruction Booklet has come out,When is the Puzzle Instruction Booklet getting released?

@ 2011-05-22 1:07 PM (#4478 - in reply to #4477) (#4478) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-22 1:07 PM

I guess it will be out as soon as it is ready

@ 2011-05-22 2:21 PM (#4480 - in reply to #4478) (#4480) Top

sanket

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sanket posted @ 2011-05-22 2:21 PM

I soo expected this answer.
But was jus praying for something new

@ 2011-05-22 3:44 PM (#4482 - in reply to #4480) (#4482) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-22 3:44 PM

sanket - 2011-05-22 2:21 PM

I soo expected this answer.
But was jus praying for something new

Probably we should have delayed releasing Sudoku types booklet by a week

@ 2011-05-28 3:21 AM (#4534 - in reply to #4477) (#4534) Top

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Organisers posted @ 2011-05-28 3:21 AM

sanket - 2011-05-22 12:42 PM

Hi
Now that the Sudoku Instruction Booklet has come out,When is the Puzzle Instruction Booklet getting released?

List of puzzle types is now uploaded here

Please use this thread for posting questions on types. Do not open new threads.

@ 2011-05-28 12:17 PM (#4535 - in reply to #4534) (#4535) Top

rakesh_rai

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-05-28 12:17 PM

ABC Connection: Do all cells have to be used, or can some cells remain empty?

Paint-By-Number: Are the clues in the same order as seen from the given direction?

Edited by rakesh_rai 2011-05-28 1:12 PM

@ 2011-05-28 3:41 PM (#4544 - in reply to #2876) (#4544) Top

sanket

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sanket posted @ 2011-05-28 3:41 PM

So there are no playoffs/eliminators/semis/finals,right?
The total score from all the 38 puzzles across the 3 rounds will be taken into consideration,right?

@ 2011-05-28 3:43 PM (#4545 - in reply to #4544) (#4545) Top

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Organisers posted @ 2011-05-28 3:43 PM

sanket - 2011-05-28 3:41 PM

So there are no playoffs/eliminators/semis/finals,right?
The total score from all the 38 puzzles across the 3 rounds will be taken into consideration,right?

That is correct.
Time bonus will be added to score.

@ 2011-05-28 3:45 PM (#4546 - in reply to #4535) (#4546) Top

Organisers

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Organisers posted @ 2011-05-28 3:45 PM

rakesh_rai - 2011-05-28 12:17 PM

ABC Connection: Do all cells have to be used, or can some cells remain empty?

Paint-By-Number: Are the clues in the same order as seen from the given direction?

ABC Connection - You don't need to know if all cells have to be used to solve the puzzle

Paint-By-Number - Yes, clues are in order. Will change the instruction.

@ 2011-05-30 11:55 AM (#4590 - in reply to #2876) (#4590) Top

macherlakumar

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macherlakumar posted @ 2011-05-30 11:55 AM

Hi,
In the Queens Park puzzle it is mentioned that "A queen does not block another queen."
Then in that case R2C4 = 4 instead of 3, R2C5 = 5 instead of 4 and R4C4 = 3 instead of 2
I think it should rather say "A queen blocks another queen".

Please verify this.

Thanks
Ravi.

(Queen's Park.JPG)

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@ 2011-05-30 12:01 PM (#4591 - in reply to #4590) (#4591) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-30 12:01 PM

Sorry about that statement "A queen does not block another queen".
It is not necessary, and moreover confusing.

The correct instruction will read
"Place X number of queens into the grid
so that none of them stands on
a number and each number
equals to the number of
directions from which the given
square is attacked by a queen.
A queen attacks to arbitrary
distance horizontally, vertically
and diagonally.
"

It is important to note that the number represents number of directions from which it can be attacked.
It doesn't represent number of queens that can attack the square.

Hope it is clear.

@ 2011-05-30 12:09 PM (#4592 - in reply to #4591) (#4592) Top

macherlakumar

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macherlakumar posted @ 2011-05-30 12:09 PM

Its clear now.

@ 2011-05-30 12:10 PM (#4593 - in reply to #2876) (#4593) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-30 12:10 PM

Here is one more example of Queen

Check the 2 at R4C4, it is attacked from 2 directions (doesn't matter how many queens)

@ 2011-05-30 4:55 PM (#4605 - in reply to #4593) (#4605) Top

vopani

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vopani posted @ 2011-05-30 4:55 PM

In Hexa Seven, it says 'Write numbers between 1 and 7 into the white hexagons so that the neighbours of each white hexagon are all different.'
I think 'Something Is Missing' ;-) (I guess numbers cannot repeat along any line?)

Edited by Rohan Rao 2011-05-30 4:59 PM

@ 2011-05-30 5:03 PM (#4607 - in reply to #4605) (#4607) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-30 5:03 PM

Rohan Rao - 2011-05-30 4:55 PM

In Hexa Seven, it says 'Write numbers between 1 and 7 into the white hexagons so that the neighbours of each white hexagon are all different.'
I think 'Something Is Missing' ;-) (I guess numbers cannot repeat along any line?)

5 is repeated across the main horizontal line in the example.

@ 2011-05-30 5:11 PM (#4608 - in reply to #4607) (#4608) Top

vopani

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vopani posted @ 2011-05-30 5:11 PM

debmohanty - 2011-05-30 5:03 PM

5 is repeated across the main horizontal line in the example.

I misunderstood it. It is correct.

@ 2011-05-30 7:46 PM (#4612 - in reply to #2876) (#4612) Top

utkaarsh

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utkaarsh posted @ 2011-05-30 7:46 PM

for the Puzzle "TRID", will the range be given or we wil need to identify while sovling the puzzle,
in the example it is not mentioned

Edited by utkaarsh 2011-05-30 7:52 PM

@ 2011-05-30 10:46 PM (#4616 - in reply to #2876) (#4616) Top

swaroop2011

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-05-30 10:46 PM

1) AREA OCCUPATION (Filomino)
Is it like size if 4*4 so the numbers used are 1-4.
2)Different Sums
sums by coincidence are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6.
but is it always true or there may be a gap in bigger puzzles like 0,1,2,5,......
3)Tiger in the woods
rule says that path is allowed to take a turn after hitting either a black square or a wall ..
but at r6c3 teh path is changing.. please check it !!!!!

@ 2011-05-31 5:39 AM (#4621 - in reply to #4616) (#4621) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-31 5:39 AM

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM

1) AREA OCCUPATION (Filomino)
Is it like size if 4*4 so the numbers used are 1-4.

No.
"Size of the grid" and "digits used" aren't related. Btw, I hope you (and others) have checked out Fillomino-Fillia

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM
2)Different Sums
sums by coincidence are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6.
but is it always true or there may be a gap in bigger puzzles like 0,1,2,5,......

You are asking me to reveal about the puzzle in the competition. I'm not going to do that.

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM
3)Tiger in the woods
rule says that path is allowed to take a turn after hitting either a black square or a wall ..
but at r6c3 teh path is changing.. please check it !!!!!

The outside border also serves as wall.
Here is another example

@ 2011-05-31 6:09 AM (#4622 - in reply to #4612) (#4622) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-31 6:09 AM

utkaarsh - 2011-05-30 7:46 PM

for the Puzzle "TRID", will the range be given or we wil need to identify while sovling the puzzle,
in the example it is not mentioned

Range will be mentioned. Missed it putting for the example.

@ 2011-05-31 3:36 PM (#4624 - in reply to #4621) (#4624) Top

swaroop2011

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-05-31 3:36 PM

debmohanty - 2011-05-31 5:39 AM

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM

1) AREA OCCUPATION (Filomino)
Is it like size if 4*4 so the numbers used are 1-4.

No.
"Size of the grid" and "digits used" aren't related. Btw, I hope you (and others) have checked out Fillomino-Fillia

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM
2)Different Sums
sums by coincidence are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6.
but is it always true or there may be a gap in bigger puzzles like 0,1,2,5,......

You are asking me to reveal about the puzzle in the competition. I'm not going to do that.

The outside border also serves as wall.
Here is another example

hey deb,
FOR TIGER IN THE WOODS
in the puzzle booklet the point where it is changing is hitting the path not the wall.[r6c3]


	@ 2011-05-13 11:13 PM (#4401 - in reply to #4389) (#4401) Top
bansalparijat Posts: 5 Country : India	bansalparijat posted @ 2011-05-13 11:13 PM Hi, Seems like common issue, I too didn't recieved any email, however I got a mail from Bangalore Coordinator. Please let me know if the printout of that will be enough?
	@ 2011-05-14 1:05 AM (#4402 - in reply to #2876) (#4402) Top
oldmonk Posts: 5 Country : India	oldmonk posted @ 2011-05-14 1:05 AM People using gmail. Please check your spam folder. I retrieved the mails from there.
	@ 2011-05-19 6:28 PM (#4447 - in reply to #2876) (#4447) Top
rajibrborah Posts: 8 Country : India	rajibrborah posted @ 2011-05-19 6:28 PM I finished 3rd in the regional round (puzzle category) at IIT Bombay. At IIT Bombay, we were informed that the top 3 will qualify for the national finals - was relaxed about the whole thing till today when I saw the list of invitations, and found that it did not incorporate this top 3 per region rule. I was looking at another thread, and it seems that the declaration "top 3 = qualification for nationals" was indeed made elsewhere as well. (adityasaraf007's post in http://www.logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=2...) Now, I don't know what to do as I did not participate in the online round either.
	@ 2011-05-19 6:34 PM (#4448 - in reply to #4447) (#4448) Top
Organisers Posts: 175 Country : India	Organisers posted @ 2011-05-19 6:34 PM Rajib, check your inbox
	@ 2011-05-22 12:42 PM (#4477 - in reply to #2876) (#4477) Top
sanket Posts: 17 Country : India	sanket posted @ 2011-05-22 12:42 PM Hi Now that the Sudoku Instruction Booklet has come out,When is the Puzzle Instruction Booklet getting released?
	@ 2011-05-22 1:07 PM (#4478 - in reply to #4477) (#4478) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-22 1:07 PM I guess it will be out as soon as it is ready
	@ 2011-05-22 2:21 PM (#4480 - in reply to #4478) (#4480) Top
sanket Posts: 17 Country : India	sanket posted @ 2011-05-22 2:21 PM I soo expected this answer. But was jus praying for something new
	@ 2011-05-22 3:44 PM (#4482 - in reply to #4480) (#4482) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-22 3:44 PM sanket - 2011-05-22 2:21 PM I soo expected this answer. But was jus praying for something new Probably we should have delayed releasing Sudoku types booklet by a week
	@ 2011-05-28 3:21 AM (#4534 - in reply to #4477) (#4534) Top
Organisers Posts: 175 Country : India	Organisers posted @ 2011-05-28 3:21 AM sanket - 2011-05-22 12:42 PM Hi Now that the Sudoku Instruction Booklet has come out,When is the Puzzle Instruction Booklet getting released? List of puzzle types is now uploaded here Please use this thread for posting questions on types. Do not open new threads.
	@ 2011-05-28 12:17 PM (#4535 - in reply to #4534) (#4535) Top
rakesh_rai Posts: 774 Country : India	rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-05-28 12:17 PM ABC Connection: Do all cells have to be used, or can some cells remain empty? Paint-By-Number: Are the clues in the same order as seen from the given direction? Edited by rakesh_rai 2011-05-28 1:12 PM
	@ 2011-05-28 3:41 PM (#4544 - in reply to #2876) (#4544) Top
sanket Posts: 17 Country : India	sanket posted @ 2011-05-28 3:41 PM So there are no playoffs/eliminators/semis/finals,right? The total score from all the 38 puzzles across the 3 rounds will be taken into consideration,right?
	@ 2011-05-28 3:43 PM (#4545 - in reply to #4544) (#4545) Top
Organisers Posts: 175 Country : India	Organisers posted @ 2011-05-28 3:43 PM sanket - 2011-05-28 3:41 PM So there are no playoffs/eliminators/semis/finals,right? The total score from all the 38 puzzles across the 3 rounds will be taken into consideration,right? That is correct. Time bonus will be added to score.
	@ 2011-05-28 3:45 PM (#4546 - in reply to #4535) (#4546) Top
Organisers Posts: 175 Country : India	Organisers posted @ 2011-05-28 3:45 PM rakesh_rai - 2011-05-28 12:17 PM ABC Connection: Do all cells have to be used, or can some cells remain empty? Paint-By-Number: Are the clues in the same order as seen from the given direction? ABC Connection - You don't need to know if all cells have to be used to solve the puzzle Paint-By-Number - Yes, clues are in order. Will change the instruction.
	@ 2011-05-30 11:55 AM (#4590 - in reply to #2876) (#4590) Top
macherlakumar Posts: 123 Country : India	macherlakumar posted @ 2011-05-30 11:55 AM Hi, In the Queens Park puzzle it is mentioned that "A queen does not block another queen." Then in that case R2C4 = 4 instead of 3, R2C5 = 5 instead of 4 and R4C4 = 3 instead of 2 I think it should rather say "A queen blocks another queen". Please verify this. Thanks Ravi. (Queen's Park.JPG) Attachments ---------------- Queen's Park.JPG (15KB - 0 downloads)
	@ 2011-05-30 12:01 PM (#4591 - in reply to #4590) (#4591) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-30 12:01 PM Sorry about that statement "A queen does not block another queen". It is not necessary, and moreover confusing. The correct instruction will read "Place X number of queens into the grid so that none of them stands on a number and each number equals to the number of directions from which the given square is attacked by a queen. A queen attacks to arbitrary distance horizontally, vertically and diagonally. " It is important to note that the number represents number of directions from which it can be attacked. It doesn't represent number of queens that can attack the square. Hope it is clear.
	@ 2011-05-30 12:09 PM (#4592 - in reply to #4591) (#4592) Top
macherlakumar Posts: 123 Country : India	macherlakumar posted @ 2011-05-30 12:09 PM Its clear now.
	@ 2011-05-30 12:10 PM (#4593 - in reply to #2876) (#4593) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-30 12:10 PM Here is one more example of Queen Check the 2 at R4C4, it is attacked from 2 directions (doesn't matter how many queens)
	@ 2011-05-30 4:55 PM (#4605 - in reply to #4593) (#4605) Top
vopani Posts: 739 Country : India	vopani posted @ 2011-05-30 4:55 PM In Hexa Seven, it says 'Write numbers between 1 and 7 into the white hexagons so that the neighbours of each white hexagon are all different.' I think 'Something Is Missing' ;-) (I guess numbers cannot repeat along any line?) Edited by Rohan Rao 2011-05-30 4:59 PM
	@ 2011-05-30 5:03 PM (#4607 - in reply to #4605) (#4607) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-30 5:03 PM Rohan Rao - 2011-05-30 4:55 PM In Hexa Seven, it says 'Write numbers between 1 and 7 into the white hexagons so that the neighbours of each white hexagon are all different.' I think 'Something Is Missing' ;-) (I guess numbers cannot repeat along any line?) 5 is repeated across the main horizontal line in the example.
	@ 2011-05-30 5:11 PM (#4608 - in reply to #4607) (#4608) Top
vopani Posts: 739 Country : India	vopani posted @ 2011-05-30 5:11 PM debmohanty - 2011-05-30 5:03 PM Rohan Rao - 2011-05-30 4:55 PM In Hexa Seven, it says 'Write numbers between 1 and 7 into the white hexagons so that the neighbours of each white hexagon are all different.' I think 'Something Is Missing' ;-) (I guess numbers cannot repeat along any line?) 5 is repeated across the main horizontal line in the example. I misunderstood it. It is correct.
	@ 2011-05-30 7:46 PM (#4612 - in reply to #2876) (#4612) Top
utkaarsh Posts: 89 Country : India	utkaarsh posted @ 2011-05-30 7:46 PM for the Puzzle "TRID", will the range be given or we wil need to identify while sovling the puzzle, in the example it is not mentioned Edited by utkaarsh 2011-05-30 7:52 PM
	@ 2011-05-30 10:46 PM (#4616 - in reply to #2876) (#4616) Top
swaroop2011 Posts: 668 Country : India	swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-05-30 10:46 PM 1) AREA OCCUPATION (Filomino) Is it like size if 4*4 so the numbers used are 1-4. 2)Different Sums sums by coincidence are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6. but is it always true or there may be a gap in bigger puzzles like 0,1,2,5,...... 3)Tiger in the woods rule says that path is allowed to take a turn after hitting either a black square or a wall .. but at r6c3 teh path is changing.. please check it !!!!!
	@ 2011-05-31 5:39 AM (#4621 - in reply to #4616) (#4621) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-31 5:39 AM swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM 1) AREA OCCUPATION (Filomino) Is it like size if 4*4 so the numbers used are 1-4. No. "Size of the grid" and "digits used" aren't related. Btw, I hope you (and others) have checked out Fillomino-Fillia swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM 2)Different Sums sums by coincidence are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6. but is it always true or there may be a gap in bigger puzzles like 0,1,2,5,...... You are asking me to reveal about the puzzle in the competition. I'm not going to do that. swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM 3)Tiger in the woods rule says that path is allowed to take a turn after hitting either a black square or a wall .. but at r6c3 teh path is changing.. please check it !!!!! The outside border also serves as wall. Here is another example
	@ 2011-05-31 6:09 AM (#4622 - in reply to #4612) (#4622) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-31 6:09 AM utkaarsh - 2011-05-30 7:46 PM for the Puzzle "TRID", will the range be given or we wil need to identify while sovling the puzzle, in the example it is not mentioned Range will be mentioned. Missed it putting for the example.
	@ 2011-05-31 3:36 PM (#4624 - in reply to #4621) (#4624) Top
swaroop2011 Posts: 668 Country : India	swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-05-31 3:36 PM debmohanty - 2011-05-31 5:39 AM swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM 1) AREA OCCUPATION (Filomino) Is it like size if 4*4 so the numbers used are 1-4. No. "Size of the grid" and "digits used" aren't related. Btw, I hope you (and others) have checked out Fillomino-Fillia swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM 2)Different Sums sums by coincidence are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6. but is it always true or there may be a gap in bigger puzzles like 0,1,2,5,...... You are asking me to reveal about the puzzle in the competition. I'm not going to do that. swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM 3)Tiger in the woods rule says that path is allowed to take a turn after hitting either a black square or a wall .. but at r6c3 teh path is changing.. please check it !!!!! The outside border also serves as wall. Here is another example hey deb, FOR TIGER IN THE WOODS in the puzzle booklet the point where it is changing is hitting the path not the wall.[r6c3]