Thread - Classics - 22nd - 27th Jan 2021 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2021

@ 2021-01-24 6:22 PM (#28854 - in reply to #28833) (#28854) Top

Posts: 6

Country : China

xiao01wei posted @ 2021-01-24 6:22 PM

there are 2 strange penalty of my submission, both same subTime, same answer, and both correct, although the bonus and points are normal.

@ 2021-01-24 7:28 PM (#28855 - in reply to #28833) (#28855) Top

vopani

Posts: 739

Country : India

vopani posted @ 2021-01-24 7:28 PM

Very nice set of puzzles. I miss the feedback form :-)

I felt the points distribution was off across types. Kakuros, Four Winds were over-valued, Hitoris / some Yajilins were under-valued.

Favourite puzzles:
Shikaku 10x10
Hitori 9x9
Kakuro-Shikaku 6x6

Thanks Prasanna!

@ 2021-01-25 1:02 AM (#28856 - in reply to #28833) (#28856) Top

bskbri

Posts: 34

Country : Turkey

bskbri posted @ 2021-01-25 1:02 AM

The test was nice. Thanks :-) My favourites are the hitori puzzles.

I want to suggest to resume the regular format of instructions. The instruction of a single puzzle should be complete (instruction + example + solution of the example) in a single page.

The last puzzle is also nice after reading the instructions :)

@ 2021-01-25 8:53 PM (#28857 - in reply to #28856) (#28857) Top

prasanna16391

Posts: 1775

Country : India

prasanna16391 posted @ 2021-01-25 8:53 PM

bskbri - 2021-01-25 1:02 AM

I want to suggest to resume the regular format of instructions. The instruction of a single puzzle should be complete (instruction + example + solution of the example) in a single page.

I would like to have more opinions on this front and also reasoning either way if I am to change the format back. I got feedback that people like to solve the examples and find it difficult to do so with the solution next to it. This seemed like a legitimate concern so I switched it up, and I can't see a concrete reason to switch back, but I may be missing something.

@ 2021-01-25 11:23 PM (#28858 - in reply to #28833) (#28858) Top

Feadoor

Posts: 22

Country : United Kingdom

Feadoor posted @ 2021-01-25 11:23 PM

The only disadvantage I see to the new system is that the description of the answer code is on a different page to the actual example answer code, and I had to flick back and forth to make sure I understood the code correctly.

This could be fixed by having a (perhaps shortened) reminder of the code's description on the answer page.

@ 2021-01-26 5:58 PM (#28859 - in reply to #28833) (#28859) Top

professorX

Posts: 34

Country : India

professorX posted @ 2021-01-26 5:58 PM

excellent test ... i used penpa for the test and I felt that solving is faster using penpa.

@ 2021-01-26 7:19 PM (#28860 - in reply to #28833) (#28860) Top

professorX

Posts: 34

Country : India

professorX posted @ 2021-01-26 7:19 PM

Can LMI ensure that from now onwards all tests including PR and Monthly tests will have penpa links for all puzzles? That would be really awesome ....

@ 2021-01-26 9:31 PM (#28861 - in reply to #28833) (#28861) Top

puzzlemad

Posts: 28

Country : United Kingdom

puzzlemad posted @ 2021-01-26 9:31 PM

Thank you. First timed comp for a long time for myself. Got a few puzzles left to solve without time constraint now but nice not to make any mistakes with answer keys on my submissions at all.

@ 2021-01-27 2:46 PM (#28864 - in reply to #28860) (#28864) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2021-01-27 2:46 PM

professorX - 2021-01-26 7:19 PM

Can LMI ensure that from now onwards all tests including PR and Monthly tests will have penpa links for all puzzles? That would be really awesome ....

We have already announced that they will be present for SM and PR rounds. For non SM and PR rounds we can't make any such statement, it is up to the author(s) if they wish to include them.

@ 2021-01-29 8:32 AM (#28870 - in reply to #28833) (#28870) Top

rajeshk

Posts: 542

Country : India

rajeshk posted @ 2021-01-29 8:32 AM

Great test with a very nice set of puzzles.
I agree with most of the players feedback here that puzzle points allocation could have been better. I found Four Winds Puzzles very easy but has to struggle with the Hitori Puzzles with the same points.
However, overall a great test. Thanks, Prasanna for these puzzles.

@ 2021-01-29 2:17 PM (#28872 - in reply to #28833) (#28872) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2021-01-29 2:17 PM

Thanks to the 291 participants.

Congratulations to Endo Ken, Hideaki Jo and Walker Anderson for taking the top 3 spots.

Also, Congratulations to Rohan Rao, Amit Sowani and Rajesh Kumar for taking the top 3 spots from India.

Thanks to Prasanna Seshadri for authoring this round!

@ 2021-01-29 2:55 PM (#28873 - in reply to #28872) (#28873) Top

rakesh_rai

Posts: 774

Country : India

rakesh_rai posted @ 2021-01-29 2:55 PM

I enjoyed this test - some nice puzzles there.
I liked all the exploratory puzzles and the "3rd puzzle" in all types.
Thanks Prasanna!

@ 2021-02-02 7:44 AM (#28883 - in reply to #28833) (#28883) Top

swaroop2011

Posts: 668

Country : India

swaroop2011 posted @ 2021-02-02 7:44 AM

Wonderful puzzles.
Although a pretty bad start for me, probably going to the discard pile.
I loved the hitori and shikaku variant.
Thanks, Prasanna, LMI, and the testers.

@ 2021-04-28 3:14 AM (#29196 - in reply to #28833) (#29196) Top

prasanna16391

Posts: 1775

Country : India

prasanna16391 posted @ 2021-04-28 3:14 AM

Solution Booklet - Link


	@ 2021-01-24 6:22 PM (#28854 - in reply to #28833) (#28854) Top
xiao01wei Posts: 6 Country : China	xiao01wei posted @ 2021-01-24 6:22 PM there are 2 strange penalty of my submission, both same subTime, same answer, and both correct, although the bonus and points are normal.
	@ 2021-01-24 7:28 PM (#28855 - in reply to #28833) (#28855) Top
vopani Posts: 739 Country : India	vopani posted @ 2021-01-24 7:28 PM Very nice set of puzzles. I miss the feedback form :-) I felt the points distribution was off across types. Kakuros, Four Winds were over-valued, Hitoris / some Yajilins were under-valued. Favourite puzzles: Shikaku 10x10 Hitori 9x9 Kakuro-Shikaku 6x6 Thanks Prasanna!
	@ 2021-01-25 1:02 AM (#28856 - in reply to #28833) (#28856) Top
bskbri Posts: 34 Country : Turkey	bskbri posted @ 2021-01-25 1:02 AM The test was nice. Thanks :-) My favourites are the hitori puzzles. I want to suggest to resume the regular format of instructions. The instruction of a single puzzle should be complete (instruction + example + solution of the example) in a single page. The last puzzle is also nice after reading the instructions :)
	@ 2021-01-25 8:53 PM (#28857 - in reply to #28856) (#28857) Top
prasanna16391 Posts: 1775 Country : India	prasanna16391 posted @ 2021-01-25 8:53 PM bskbri - 2021-01-25 1:02 AM I want to suggest to resume the regular format of instructions. The instruction of a single puzzle should be complete (instruction + example + solution of the example) in a single page. I would like to have more opinions on this front and also reasoning either way if I am to change the format back. I got feedback that people like to solve the examples and find it difficult to do so with the solution next to it. This seemed like a legitimate concern so I switched it up, and I can't see a concrete reason to switch back, but I may be missing something.
	@ 2021-01-25 11:23 PM (#28858 - in reply to #28833) (#28858) Top
Feadoor Posts: 22 Country : United Kingdom	Feadoor posted @ 2021-01-25 11:23 PM The only disadvantage I see to the new system is that the description of the answer code is on a different page to the actual example answer code, and I had to flick back and forth to make sure I understood the code correctly. This could be fixed by having a (perhaps shortened) reminder of the code's description on the answer page.
	@ 2021-01-26 5:58 PM (#28859 - in reply to #28833) (#28859) Top
professorX Posts: 34 Country : India	professorX posted @ 2021-01-26 5:58 PM excellent test ... i used penpa for the test and I felt that solving is faster using penpa.
	@ 2021-01-26 7:19 PM (#28860 - in reply to #28833) (#28860) Top
professorX Posts: 34 Country : India	professorX posted @ 2021-01-26 7:19 PM Can LMI ensure that from now onwards all tests including PR and Monthly tests will have penpa links for all puzzles? That would be really awesome ....
	@ 2021-01-26 9:31 PM (#28861 - in reply to #28833) (#28861) Top
puzzlemad Posts: 28 Country : United Kingdom	puzzlemad posted @ 2021-01-26 9:31 PM Thank you. First timed comp for a long time for myself. Got a few puzzles left to solve without time constraint now but nice not to make any mistakes with answer keys on my submissions at all.
	@ 2021-01-27 2:46 PM (#28864 - in reply to #28860) (#28864) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2021-01-27 2:46 PM professorX - 2021-01-26 7:19 PM Can LMI ensure that from now onwards all tests including PR and Monthly tests will have penpa links for all puzzles? That would be really awesome .... We have already announced that they will be present for SM and PR rounds. For non SM and PR rounds we can't make any such statement, it is up to the author(s) if they wish to include them.
	@ 2021-01-29 8:32 AM (#28870 - in reply to #28833) (#28870) Top
rajeshk Posts: 542 Country : India	rajeshk posted @ 2021-01-29 8:32 AM Great test with a very nice set of puzzles. I agree with most of the players feedback here that puzzle points allocation could have been better. I found Four Winds Puzzles very easy but has to struggle with the Hitori Puzzles with the same points. However, overall a great test. Thanks, Prasanna for these puzzles.
	@ 2021-01-29 2:17 PM (#28872 - in reply to #28833) (#28872) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2021-01-29 2:17 PM Thanks to the 291 participants. Congratulations to Endo Ken, Hideaki Jo and Walker Anderson for taking the top 3 spots. Also, Congratulations to Rohan Rao, Amit Sowani and Rajesh Kumar for taking the top 3 spots from India. Thanks to Prasanna Seshadri for authoring this round!
	@ 2021-01-29 2:55 PM (#28873 - in reply to #28872) (#28873) Top
rakesh_rai Posts: 774 Country : India	rakesh_rai posted @ 2021-01-29 2:55 PM I enjoyed this test - some nice puzzles there. I liked all the exploratory puzzles and the "3rd puzzle" in all types. Thanks Prasanna!
	@ 2021-02-02 7:44 AM (#28883 - in reply to #28833) (#28883) Top
swaroop2011 Posts: 668 Country : India	swaroop2011 posted @ 2021-02-02 7:44 AM Wonderful puzzles. Although a pretty bad start for me, probably going to the discard pile. I loved the hitori and shikaku variant. Thanks, Prasanna, LMI, and the testers.
	@ 2021-04-28 3:14 AM (#29196 - in reply to #28833) (#29196) Top
prasanna16391 Posts: 1775 Country : India	prasanna16391 posted @ 2021-04-28 3:14 AM Solution Booklet - Link