Thread - LMI December Puzzle Test

@ 2010-12-07 2:56 PM (#2822 - in reply to #2786) (#2822) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-12-07 2:56 PM

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@ 2010-12-07 3:09 PM (#2823 - in reply to #2786) (#2823) Top

zalak

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zalak posted @ 2010-12-07 3:09 PM

Is the solution of Arrow Chess correct. I think the number 3 has a Bishop and 3 arrows pointing towards it..

Also, is it possible to explain Chessdoku even further. The digit 1 at the end of instuctions is not making much sense to me. Maybe I am being slow here!

@ 2010-12-07 3:20 PM (#2824 - in reply to #2823) (#2824) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-07 3:20 PM

zalak - 2010-12-07 3:09 PM
Also, is it possible to explain Chessdoku even further. The digit 1 at the end of instuctions is not making much sense to me. Maybe I am being slow here!

About Chessdoku
Each chess piece can attack exactly two cells having 1 inside them.
Is that better?

For example : the knight attacks R3C5 and R6C2
the bishop attacks R1C1 and R2C4
so on...

@ 2010-12-07 3:47 PM (#2826 - in reply to #2823) (#2826) Top

Nikola

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Nikola posted @ 2010-12-07 3:47 PM

@ Zalak
Yes, it is a mistake. It should be 4.

@ 2010-12-07 3:50 PM (#2827 - in reply to #2824) (#2827) Top

zalak

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zalak posted @ 2010-12-07 3:50 PM

Makes sense now!!

@ 2010-12-07 3:58 PM (#2828 - in reply to #2826) (#2828) Top

rakesh_rai

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2010-12-07 3:58 PM

Nikola - 2010-12-07 3:47 PM@ ZalakYes, it is a mistake. It should be 4.

The two 4s in the second row also seem to be not matching - should they be 5 each?

@ 2010-12-07 6:26 PM (#2834 - in reply to #2828) (#2834) Top

Nikola

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Nikola posted @ 2010-12-07 6:26 PM

Sorry for bad example. It will be fixed. Most important is that the rules are clear.

Nikola

@ 2010-12-07 8:24 PM (#2835 - in reply to #2834) (#2835) Top

neerajmehrotra

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-12-07 8:24 PM

Can some one explain how to start HIDDEN WORDS.............the puzzle in the IB

@ 2010-12-07 8:48 PM (#2836 - in reply to #2834) (#2836) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-12-07 8:48 PM

Nikola - 2010-12-07 6:26 PM

Sorry for bad example. It will be fixed. Most important is that the rules are clear.

Nikola

A newer version of IB is uploaded. Note that the only change is Arrow Chess example.

@ 2010-12-07 8:51 PM (#2837 - in reply to #2835) (#2837) Top

purifire

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purifire posted @ 2010-12-07 8:51 PM

I had a question on Hitori Chess.... in the example each chess piece attacks one number... however, can a piece attack 2 numbers in one line as in the example for Hidden Words... I am attaching an image of an alternate solution for Hitori chess.... Im not worried abt the dual solution of hitori chess in the example but want to confirm if the rule of hidden words (where the bishop attacks 2 Es in one line ) is also applicable in Hitori Chess.

Rishi

(Hitori Chess.PNG)

Attachments
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Hitori Chess.PNG (25KB - 2 downloads)

@ 2010-12-07 8:58 PM (#2838 - in reply to #2837) (#2838) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-07 8:58 PM

purifire - 2010-12-07 8:51 PM

I had a question on Hitori Chess.... in the example each chess piece attacks one number... however, can a piece attack 2 numbers in one line as in the example for Hidden Words... I am attaching an image of an alternate solution for Hitori chess.... Im not worried abt the dual solution of hitori chess in the example but want to confirm if the rule of hidden words (where the bishop attacks 2 Es in one line ) is also applicable in Hitori Chess.

Rishi

In the attachment, one of the 4s in row3 has to be painted black. So it is not a valid solution.

@ 2010-12-07 9:02 PM (#2839 - in reply to #2838) (#2839) Top

purifire

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purifire posted @ 2010-12-07 9:02 PM

debmohanty - 2010-12-07 8:58 PM
In the attachment, one of the 4s in row3 has to be painted black. So it is not a valid solution.

sorry, I attached a wrong image... The correct image I wanted to attach is below...

(Hitori Chess.PNG)

Attachments
----------------

Hitori Chess.PNG (26KB - 2 downloads)

@ 2010-12-07 9:27 PM (#2841 - in reply to #2839) (#2841) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-07 9:27 PM

purifire - 2010-12-07 9:02 PM
sorry, I attached a wrong image... The correct image I wanted to attach is below...

As per rules, the example has more than one solution.

Please note that some of the examples are just for illustration purpose, and may not be valid puzzles by themselves. (Nikola mentioned this in IB )

@ 2010-12-07 9:28 PM (#2842 - in reply to #2839) (#2842) Top

Nikola

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Nikola posted @ 2010-12-07 9:28 PM

Thanks, Rishi. Yes, we have a dual solution here but I'm glad that you understand the rules. As I said in booklet, this is not a puzzles.

@ 2010-12-08 3:33 PM (#2847 - in reply to #2842) (#2847) Top

purifire

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purifire posted @ 2010-12-08 3:33 PM

Nikola - 2010-12-07 9:28 PM

Thanks, Rishi. Yes, we have a dual solution here but I'm glad that you understand the rules. As I said in booklet, this is not a puzzles.

In Hidden words, can the words be spelt in reverse??

Rishi

@ 2010-12-08 3:51 PM (#2848 - in reply to #2847) (#2848) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-08 3:51 PM

purifire - 2010-12-08 3:33 PM
In Hidden words, can the words be spelt in reverse??

That is not allowed.

@ 2010-12-09 9:23 PM (#2851 - in reply to #2786) (#2851) Top

vopani

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vopani posted @ 2010-12-09 9:23 PM

In Battleships, can a piece attack the same ship more than once? (Say the knight attacks two cells of the 4-cell ship)

@ 2010-12-09 10:11 PM (#2852 - in reply to #2851) (#2852) Top

neerajmehrotra

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-12-09 10:11 PM

Rohan Rao - 2010-12-09 9:23 PM

In Battleships, can a piece attack the same ship more than once? (Say the knight attacks two cells of the 4-cell ship)

Yes..........I think so.........because the instruction

each chess piece attacks exactly one ship of every kind

It dosent talk about the number of ship segments.......

@ 2010-12-10 9:53 AM (#2853 - in reply to #2852) (#2853) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-10 9:53 AM

neerajmehrotra - 2010-12-09 10:11 PM

Rohan Rao - 2010-12-09 9:23 PM

In Battleships, can a piece attack the same ship more than once? (Say the knight attacks two cells of the 4-cell ship)

Yes..........I think so.........because the instruction

each chess piece attacks exactly one ship of every kind

It dosent talk about the number of ship segments.......

That is allowed.
A chess piece can attack same ship more than once.

@ 2010-12-10 3:35 PM (#2856 - in reply to #2786) (#2856) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-10 3:35 PM

Puzzle booklet is uploaded

@ 2010-12-11 5:10 PM (#2863 - in reply to #2856) (#2863) Top

purifire

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purifire posted @ 2010-12-11 5:10 PM

debmohanty - 2010-12-10 3:35 PM

Puzzle booklet is uploaded

Now this was a completely new and refreshing set of puzzles :)

Though I am familiar with chess but never ever imagined an influx of chess into our normal day to day puzzles....

Great set Nikola... though not much to look forward to from my results point of view...

Rishi

@ 2010-12-11 8:31 PM (#2864 - in reply to #2786) (#2864) Top

neerajmehrotra

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-12-11 8:31 PM

grt set of puzzles..........very difficult from my standard....thanks

@ 2010-12-11 10:46 PM (#2865 - in reply to #2786) (#2865) Top

marpla

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marpla posted @ 2010-12-11 10:46 PM

Great test !

Unfortunately I entered coordinates in alphabetical order instead of top to bottom for chess battleships and hidden words...
(I think the order required is not specified for hidden words.)

thanks for the puzzles

@ 2010-12-11 10:52 PM (#2866 - in reply to #2865) (#2866) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-12-11 10:52 PM

marpla - 2010-12-11 10:46 PM

Great test !

Unfortunately I entered coordinates in alphabetical order instead of top to bottom for chess battleships and hidden words...
(I think the order required is not specified for hidden words.)

thanks for the puzzles

Fixed. Please check.

@ 2010-12-12 1:11 AM (#2867 - in reply to #2786) (#2867) Top

yureklis

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yureklis posted @ 2010-12-12 1:11 AM

Wonderful puzzles! I love one more time your Tapa Chess. Thank you very much Nikola. I hope you keep the competition, Chess 2:)


	@ 2010-12-07 2:56 PM (#2822 - in reply to #2786) (#2822) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2010-12-07 2:56 PM Instructions in Chinese - http://www.sudokufans.org.cn/forums/index.php?showtopic=146
	@ 2010-12-07 3:09 PM (#2823 - in reply to #2786) (#2823) Top
zalak Posts: 23 Country : India	zalak posted @ 2010-12-07 3:09 PM Is the solution of Arrow Chess correct. I think the number 3 has a Bishop and 3 arrows pointing towards it.. Also, is it possible to explain Chessdoku even further. The digit 1 at the end of instuctions is not making much sense to me. Maybe I am being slow here!
	@ 2010-12-07 3:20 PM (#2824 - in reply to #2823) (#2824) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-07 3:20 PM zalak - 2010-12-07 3:09 PM Also, is it possible to explain Chessdoku even further. The digit 1 at the end of instuctions is not making much sense to me. Maybe I am being slow here! About Chessdoku Each chess piece can attack exactly two cells having 1 inside them. Is that better? For example : the knight attacks R3C5 and R6C2 the bishop attacks R1C1 and R2C4 so on...
	@ 2010-12-07 3:47 PM (#2826 - in reply to #2823) (#2826) Top
Nikola Posts: 103 Country : Serbia	Nikola posted @ 2010-12-07 3:47 PM @ Zalak Yes, it is a mistake. It should be 4.
	@ 2010-12-07 3:50 PM (#2827 - in reply to #2824) (#2827) Top
zalak Posts: 23 Country : India	zalak posted @ 2010-12-07 3:50 PM Makes sense now!!
	@ 2010-12-07 3:58 PM (#2828 - in reply to #2826) (#2828) Top
rakesh_rai Posts: 774 Country : India	rakesh_rai posted @ 2010-12-07 3:58 PM Nikola - 2010-12-07 3:47 PM@ ZalakYes, it is a mistake. It should be 4. The two 4s in the second row also seem to be not matching - should they be 5 each?
	@ 2010-12-07 6:26 PM (#2834 - in reply to #2828) (#2834) Top
Nikola Posts: 103 Country : Serbia	Nikola posted @ 2010-12-07 6:26 PM Sorry for bad example. It will be fixed. Most important is that the rules are clear. Nikola
	@ 2010-12-07 8:24 PM (#2835 - in reply to #2834) (#2835) Top
neerajmehrotra Posts: 329 Country : India	neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-12-07 8:24 PM Can some one explain how to start HIDDEN WORDS.............the puzzle in the IB
	@ 2010-12-07 8:48 PM (#2836 - in reply to #2834) (#2836) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2010-12-07 8:48 PM Nikola - 2010-12-07 6:26 PM Sorry for bad example. It will be fixed. Most important is that the rules are clear. Nikola A newer version of IB is uploaded. Note that the only change is Arrow Chess example.
	@ 2010-12-07 8:51 PM (#2837 - in reply to #2835) (#2837) Top
purifire Posts: 460 Country : India	purifire posted @ 2010-12-07 8:51 PM I had a question on Hitori Chess.... in the example each chess piece attacks one number... however, can a piece attack 2 numbers in one line as in the example for Hidden Words... I am attaching an image of an alternate solution for Hitori chess.... Im not worried abt the dual solution of hitori chess in the example but want to confirm if the rule of hidden words (where the bishop attacks 2 Es in one line ) is also applicable in Hitori Chess. Rishi (Hitori Chess.PNG) Attachments ---------------- Hitori Chess.PNG (25KB - 2 downloads)
	@ 2010-12-07 8:58 PM (#2838 - in reply to #2837) (#2838) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-07 8:58 PM purifire - 2010-12-07 8:51 PM I had a question on Hitori Chess.... in the example each chess piece attacks one number... however, can a piece attack 2 numbers in one line as in the example for Hidden Words... I am attaching an image of an alternate solution for Hitori chess.... Im not worried abt the dual solution of hitori chess in the example but want to confirm if the rule of hidden words (where the bishop attacks 2 Es in one line ) is also applicable in Hitori Chess. Rishi In the attachment, one of the 4s in row3 has to be painted black. So it is not a valid solution.
	@ 2010-12-07 9:02 PM (#2839 - in reply to #2838) (#2839) Top
purifire Posts: 460 Country : India	purifire posted @ 2010-12-07 9:02 PM debmohanty - 2010-12-07 8:58 PM In the attachment, one of the 4s in row3 has to be painted black. So it is not a valid solution. sorry, I attached a wrong image... The correct image I wanted to attach is below... (Hitori Chess.PNG) Attachments ---------------- Hitori Chess.PNG (26KB - 2 downloads)
	@ 2010-12-07 9:27 PM (#2841 - in reply to #2839) (#2841) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-07 9:27 PM purifire - 2010-12-07 9:02 PM sorry, I attached a wrong image... The correct image I wanted to attach is below... As per rules, the example has more than one solution. Please note that some of the examples are just for illustration purpose, and may not be valid puzzles by themselves. (Nikola mentioned this in IB )
	@ 2010-12-07 9:28 PM (#2842 - in reply to #2839) (#2842) Top
Nikola Posts: 103 Country : Serbia	Nikola posted @ 2010-12-07 9:28 PM Thanks, Rishi. Yes, we have a dual solution here but I'm glad that you understand the rules. As I said in booklet, this is not a puzzles.
	@ 2010-12-08 3:33 PM (#2847 - in reply to #2842) (#2847) Top
purifire Posts: 460 Country : India	purifire posted @ 2010-12-08 3:33 PM Nikola - 2010-12-07 9:28 PM Thanks, Rishi. Yes, we have a dual solution here but I'm glad that you understand the rules. As I said in booklet, this is not a puzzles. In Hidden words, can the words be spelt in reverse?? Rishi
	@ 2010-12-08 3:51 PM (#2848 - in reply to #2847) (#2848) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-08 3:51 PM purifire - 2010-12-08 3:33 PM In Hidden words, can the words be spelt in reverse?? That is not allowed.
	@ 2010-12-09 9:23 PM (#2851 - in reply to #2786) (#2851) Top
vopani Posts: 739 Country : India	vopani posted @ 2010-12-09 9:23 PM In Battleships, can a piece attack the same ship more than once? (Say the knight attacks two cells of the 4-cell ship)
	@ 2010-12-09 10:11 PM (#2852 - in reply to #2851) (#2852) Top
neerajmehrotra Posts: 329 Country : India	neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-12-09 10:11 PM Rohan Rao - 2010-12-09 9:23 PM In Battleships, can a piece attack the same ship more than once? (Say the knight attacks two cells of the 4-cell ship) Yes..........I think so.........because the instruction each chess piece attacks exactly one ship of every kind It dosent talk about the number of ship segments.......
	@ 2010-12-10 9:53 AM (#2853 - in reply to #2852) (#2853) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-10 9:53 AM neerajmehrotra - 2010-12-09 10:11 PM Rohan Rao - 2010-12-09 9:23 PM In Battleships, can a piece attack the same ship more than once? (Say the knight attacks two cells of the 4-cell ship) Yes..........I think so.........because the instruction each chess piece attacks exactly one ship of every kind It dosent talk about the number of ship segments....... That is allowed. A chess piece can attack same ship more than once.
	@ 2010-12-10 3:35 PM (#2856 - in reply to #2786) (#2856) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-10 3:35 PM Puzzle booklet is uploaded
	@ 2010-12-11 5:10 PM (#2863 - in reply to #2856) (#2863) Top
purifire Posts: 460 Country : India	purifire posted @ 2010-12-11 5:10 PM debmohanty - 2010-12-10 3:35 PM Puzzle booklet is uploaded Now this was a completely new and refreshing set of puzzles :) Though I am familiar with chess but never ever imagined an influx of chess into our normal day to day puzzles.... Great set Nikola... though not much to look forward to from my results point of view... Rishi
	@ 2010-12-11 8:31 PM (#2864 - in reply to #2786) (#2864) Top
neerajmehrotra Posts: 329 Country : India	neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-12-11 8:31 PM grt set of puzzles..........very difficult from my standard....thanks
	@ 2010-12-11 10:46 PM (#2865 - in reply to #2786) (#2865) Top
marpla Posts: 1 Country : France	marpla posted @ 2010-12-11 10:46 PM Great test ! Unfortunately I entered coordinates in alphabetical order instead of top to bottom for chess battleships and hidden words... (I think the order required is not specified for hidden words.) thanks for the puzzles
	@ 2010-12-11 10:52 PM (#2866 - in reply to #2865) (#2866) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2010-12-11 10:52 PM marpla - 2010-12-11 10:46 PM Great test ! Unfortunately I entered coordinates in alphabetical order instead of top to bottom for chess battleships and hidden words... (I think the order required is not specified for hidden words.) thanks for the puzzles Fixed. Please check.
	@ 2010-12-12 1:11 AM (#2867 - in reply to #2786) (#2867) Top
yureklis Posts: 183 Country : Turkey	yureklis posted @ 2010-12-12 1:11 AM Wonderful puzzles! I love one more time your Tapa Chess. Thank you very much Nikola. I hope you keep the competition, Chess 2:)