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Number and Object Placement - 21st - 26th Feb 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 202036 posts • Page 1 of 2 • 1 2
@ 2020-02-21 8:21 AM (#27615 - in reply to #27596) (#27615) Top

WA1729




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WA1729 posted @ 2020-02-21 8:21 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Ripple Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


A little on the hard side but puzzles were very good. Thank you!

Favorites:
5 Kropki
9 Ripple Effect
14 Battleships
@ 2020-02-21 3:43 PM (#27616 - in reply to #27596) (#27616) Top

vopani



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vopani posted @ 2020-02-21 3:43 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Too hard for PR.

Favourite puzzles: 14-Battleships, 22-LoadedBattleships, 11-Kropshiki

Thanks Harmeet and Pranav!
@ 2020-02-21 5:43 PM (#27617 - in reply to #27596) (#27617) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2020-02-21 5:43 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Very nice puzzles.

Battleships and Ripple Loop had very nice logic in all puzzles. Kropkis were a bit hard. Polyomino 9x9 was very nice. The exploratory puzzles had a nice twist from the original rules (no-converse and ship weight respectively).
@ 2020-02-21 11:16 PM (#27618 - in reply to #27596) (#27618) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2020-02-21 11:16 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Ripple Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-02-22 7:45 AM (#27621 - in reply to #27596) (#27621) Top

chaotic_iak




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chaotic_iak posted @ 2020-02-22 7:45 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Puzzles were very nice, from what I attempted. Genre balance is still off: too many Latin square puzzles (Kropki and Futoshiki), and too many Battleships-like puzzles (Battleships and Polyominoes). I got through the 10-pointer without much trouble, but I had lots of trouble with 6- and 8-pointer Kropkis; it might be me being bad in Latin square-like puzzles in general, though.
@ 2020-02-22 10:40 PM (#27622 - in reply to #27596) (#27622) Top

Lavanyakrishnan



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Lavanyakrishnan posted @ 2020-02-22 10:40 PM

answers once submitted..... cant it be redone
@ 2020-02-22 11:19 PM (#27623 - in reply to #27596) (#27623) Top

anuj42



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anuj42 posted @ 2020-02-22 11:19 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Loaded Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-02-22 11:41 PM (#27624 - in reply to #27622) (#27624) Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2020-02-22 11:41 PM

Lavanyakrishnan - 2020-02-22 10:40 PM

answers once submitted..... cant it be redone

Yes. You can resubmit if there is an error. The instant grader will tell you if your answer is right or wrong. There is some penalty for these resubmissions as mentioned in IB.
@ 2020-02-23 3:02 AM (#27625 - in reply to #27596) (#27625) Top

blivet



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blivet posted @ 2020-02-23 3:02 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Polyominoes
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-02-23 3:25 AM (#27626 - in reply to #27596) (#27626) Top

EctoPlasma




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EctoPlasma posted @ 2020-02-23 3:25 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Polyominoes
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Quite hard test for a PR it was! I like this difficulty level more, but it may be too hard for a national quali I guess?
@ 2020-02-23 10:01 AM (#27627 - in reply to #27596) (#27627) Top

auroux



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auroux posted @ 2020-02-23 10:01 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


This was much harder than PR rounds in past years (I still don't know what to think of last month's lopsided PR round), but it was also felt very fair and well-designed. The puzzles were nice and had a good mix of logical solve path / ability to use intuition when solve path is not apparent. I enjoyed it, even though I had expected to finish it and wasn't able to.
@ 2020-02-23 10:01 AM (#27628 - in reply to #27596) (#27628) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2020-02-23 10:01 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-02-23 2:13 PM (#27629 - in reply to #27596) (#27629) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2020-02-23 2:13 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-02-23 3:19 PM (#27630 - in reply to #27596) (#27630) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2020-02-23 3:19 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Ripple Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Very challenging and tough set but puzzles were very nice and fun to solve.

My favourites are Ripple Effect (8 points), Futoshiki (5 points) and Battlseships (7 points).The other puzzles also from these genres were intereting to solve.

Thanks Harmeet and Pranav for an enjoyable set !
@ 2020-02-23 9:44 PM (#27631 - in reply to #27596) (#27631) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2020-02-23 9:44 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Ripple Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-02-24 3:46 AM (#27632 - in reply to #27596) (#27632) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2020-02-24 3:46 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-02-24 7:09 AM (#27633 - in reply to #27596) (#27633) Top

bob



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bob posted @ 2020-02-24 7:09 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kropkshiki
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Fun puzzles. Just no where near enough time for me. Didn't eveln look at some of them.
@ 2020-02-24 10:25 AM (#27634 - in reply to #27596) (#27634) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2020-02-24 10:25 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Ripple Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-02-24 8:48 PM (#27646 - in reply to #27596) (#27646) Top

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Grizix posted @ 2020-02-24 8:48 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Loaded Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys were horrible
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I really don't like entering columns as letters for the battleships answer keys. It could be digits, it's simpler to read, and faster to type on a numpad.
Same for polyominoes, it could be the size of the colored parts, it's faster to type than letters.
@ 2020-02-24 9:41 PM (#27647 - in reply to #27646) (#27647) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2020-02-24 9:41 PM

Grizix - 2020-02-24 8:48 PM

I really don't like entering columns as letters for the battleships answer keys. It could be digits, it's simpler to read, and faster to type on a numpad.
Same for polyominoes, it could be the size of the colored parts, it's faster to type than letters.

Thanks for your viewpoint and we are concerned that you found the answer keys horrible while most other participants were ok.

For Polyominoes, your suggested answer key is an altogether different kind of answer key and does not clearly tell if the solver placed the correct polyomino. So the letters do serve a purpose here. Last year, we had asked names of the first three shapes from a direction, again letters only.

For Battleships, letters are already provided for easy reference above the grid. So it should not be that difficult. The numbers are avoided for a reason again. Numbers can possibly cause confusion with battleship outside clues which are also numbers.

Yes, we do consider things like "simpler to read" and "easier to type" but that is not the only consideration.
@ 2020-02-24 11:05 PM (#27651 - in reply to #27596) (#27651) Top

ABcDexter



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ABcDexter posted @ 2020-02-24 11:05 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-02-25 4:10 AM (#27653 - in reply to #27596) (#27653) Top

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Feadoor posted @ 2020-02-25 4:10 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Ripple Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-02-25 7:12 AM (#27654 - in reply to #27596) (#27654) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2020-02-25 7:12 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Futoshiki
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-02-25 10:15 AM (#27656 - in reply to #27596) (#27656) Top

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mstang posted @ 2020-02-25 10:15 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Polyominoes
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Good test, although harder than I expected! I got everything but the last two Kropkis. The quality was very high, in my view. Thanks!!

Edited by mstang 2020-02-25 10:15 AM
@ 2020-02-25 2:11 PM (#27657 - in reply to #27596) (#27657) Top

tamz29



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tamz29 posted @ 2020-02-25 2:11 PM

Phew. Finished this test with a minute to spare.
I was really slow with the Latin Squares.
Thankfully, I made up for it with the Object Placement portion.

Number Placement should perhaps include other genres as well (maybe Products, Summon, heck, even Nansuke?) - 3/4 types being Latin Squares was maybe a bit... much.
I noticed a wild imbalance with points/minute solve - but this is often common with the placement genre since you could quickly intuit to a solution.
For example, I took only 90 seconds to solve 8 points worth of Akari, whereas I'd take 10 minutes+ to solve 8 points worth of Kropki.
The presentation of Weighted Battleships (I think that was the original name) could've had the digits written on the ships (which is usually made lighter grey) to make it easier to visualize.

Loved the test. You could see the intended logic path behind most of these puzzles. The 14-Battleships deserves a special mention.
Thanks!
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