Thread - LMI Screen Test #1

@ 2010-11-30 8:09 PM (#2731 - in reply to #2716) (#2731) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-30 8:09 PM

debmohanty - 2010-11-29 6:17 AM

euklid - 2010-11-29 12:11 AM
And then I would rephrase the Kakuro rules into something like: "The following Kakuro may have several solutions but it can be solved in a way that one digit will not be used. What is the unused digit?". The reason for my proposal is that the given Kakuro in the Demo is NOT a standard kakuro since it has multiple solutions!

We'll decide if we have to change the Demo puzzle or the Instructions.
An update on this is due.
But I assume the puzzle is primarily clear to everyone.

the demo puzzle and example has been changed.
It is now a regular kakuro (with unique solution).

@ 2010-11-30 10:06 PM (#2732 - in reply to #2692) (#2732) Top

DreamRose311

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DreamRose311 posted @ 2010-11-30 10:06 PM

So am I right in seeing that you are penalized for wrong answers, but you have to submit an answer to the puzzle to get to the next one? And the IB says something about being able to go back to puzzles you skipped in the review period... I guess by skipped it means 'intentionally guessed'?

@ 2010-11-30 10:11 PM (#2733 - in reply to #2732) (#2733) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-30 10:11 PM

DreamRose311 - 2010-11-30 10:06 PM

So am I right in seeing that you are penalized for wrong answers, but you have to submit an answer to the puzzle to get to the next one? And the IB says something about being able to go back to puzzles you skipped in the review period... I guess by skipped it means 'intentionally guessed'?

1. You get penalized for wrong answers, but obviously no negative points for not answering a question.
2. After the timer is over, you will automatically be shown the next puzzle (irrespective of whether you have answered the previous one or not)

So, that means, you can't skip a puzzle - you have to wait till 45 (or 60) seconds are over to go to the next puzzle.
So if you decide to skip a puzzle (for whatever reasons), don't select any answer, rather wait for the timer to be over.

@ 2010-11-30 10:13 PM (#2734 - in reply to #2692) (#2734) Top

DreamRose311

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DreamRose311 posted @ 2010-11-30 10:13 PM

Yikes, that's pretty scary... But now that I think about it I guess there isn't a time advantage to skipping a puzzle early, since every puzzle has a set time. I guess if you encounter a puzzle you're sure you won't answer, it's a good chance to catch a breath!!

I rushed and did the Demo before reading the IB... because I was overly excited/intrigued... On the review page, is it possible to change an answer to 'no answer' ?

@ 2010-11-30 10:22 PM (#2735 - in reply to #2692) (#2735) Top

DreamRose311

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DreamRose311 posted @ 2010-11-30 10:22 PM

(And by scary I mean in an intense and exciting awesome way

)

@ 2010-11-30 10:25 PM (#2736 - in reply to #2734) (#2736) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-30 10:25 PM

DreamRose311 - 2010-11-30 10:13 PM

Yikes, that's pretty scary... But now that I think about it I guess there isn't a time advantage to skipping a puzzle early, since every puzzle has a set time. I guess if you encounter a puzzle you're sure you won't answer, it's a good chance to catch a breath!!

I rushed and did the Demo before reading the IB... because I was overly excited/intrigued... On the review page, is it possible to change an answer to 'no answer' ?

I agree with you. If I'm not comfortable with a puzzle type and decide to skip it, I would catch some breath while the timer runs out till next puzzle.
In the review page, you CAN change the answer to 'no answer'.

@ 2010-11-30 11:21 PM (#2737 - in reply to #2692) (#2737) Top

neerajmehrotra

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-11-30 11:21 PM

If we skip any puzzzle do we come back to it again if time is left..............I Mean if am able to do 10 out of 25 and miss 15 in between and have say 5 mins left.... will I be able to have a try on the missed ones...........
another point ....Can we have a skip button?? to save time and come back to the puzzle at a later time.............

@ 2010-11-30 11:25 PM (#2738 - in reply to #2692) (#2738) Top

neerajmehrotra

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-11-30 11:25 PM

Another point... Can we have a bigger digital timer.....just below the puzzle (instead of Right hand corner)

@ 2010-12-01 12:24 AM (#2739 - in reply to #2737) (#2739) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-01 12:24 AM

neerajmehrotra - 2010-11-30 11:21 PM

If we skip any puzzzle do we come back to it again if time is left..............I Mean if am able to do 10 out of 25 and miss 15 in between and have say 5 mins left.... will I be able to have a try on the missed ones...........
another point ....Can we have a skip button?? to save time and come back to the puzzle at a later time.............

It is not possible to come back to a puzzle like you mention.
Each puzzle has a 'fixed time', and it should be solved within that fixed time.

You can view / switch back-and-forth among any puzzle during the 90-seconds review period. But that time is fixed for everyone - whether you have solved 5 puzzles or 20 puzzles.

@ 2010-12-01 12:28 AM (#2740 - in reply to #2738) (#2740) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-01 12:28 AM

neerajmehrotra - 2010-11-30 11:25 PM

Another point... Can we have a bigger digital timer.....just below the puzzle (instead of Right hand corner)

A bigger digital timer or a different color progress bar is something we could do easily.
But trust me that it is very disturbing and intrusive.

Irrespective of the size of timer, the number of seconds you have is not going to change.
You should rather never look at the timer, and just try to solve a puzzle in as few seconds as possible.

@ 2010-12-02 4:33 PM (#2744 - in reply to #2714) (#2744) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-02 4:33 PM

davmillar - 2010-11-29 4:51 AM
One note: it might be nice to have a letter representing each color shown in the bottom corner of cells in Brilliant Colour so that Colour-blind users can still have a fair chance to compete. I'm not sure if any other puzzles in the test use colour, but it is one consideration you may want to make.

We also changed the Middle Stick colors.
Here is the updated example

@ 2010-12-02 9:46 PM (#2745 - in reply to #2692) (#2745) Top

macherlakumar

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macherlakumar posted @ 2010-12-02 9:46 PM

Can anyone explain me the puzzle Lucky Column, if possible with an example..

@ 2010-12-02 10:42 PM (#2746 - in reply to #2745) (#2746) Top

vopani

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vopani posted @ 2010-12-02 10:42 PM

macherlakumar - 2010-12-02 9:46 PM

Can anyone explain me the puzzle Lucky Column, if possible with an example..

Take a look at this puzzle below. A simple 6x6 puzzle. You need to shade all circles in some (generally two or more) columns such that every row has exactly one shaded circle. So, if you shade the 1st, 4th and 6th columns, you can easily see the conditions satisfied.

(Puzzle.png)

(Solution.png)

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Puzzle.png (3KB - 5 downloads)
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Solution.png (3KB - 2 downloads)

@ 2010-12-02 10:53 PM (#2747 - in reply to #2745) (#2747) Top

vopani

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vopani posted @ 2010-12-02 10:53 PM

macherlakumar - 2010-12-02 9:46 PM

Can anyone explain me the puzzle Lucky Column, if possible with an example..

In the Screen Test, you will be given a puzzle like the one given below, though, bigger than a 6x6. If you solve this puzzle, you will realise there are two solutions. But both solutions contain the 2nd column. So, Column B is the 'lucky column' :-)

Click to show to see all the solutions

Spoiler: show

(Note: There might be more than two solutions of the puzzle, but EVERY solution contains the one LUCKY COLUMN)

(Puzzle.png)

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Puzzle.png (3KB - 1 downloads)

@ 2010-12-03 9:52 AM (#2748 - in reply to #2747) (#2748) Top

macherlakumar

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macherlakumar posted @ 2010-12-03 9:52 AM

Thanks a lot Rohan. I guess I am ready for the competition

Edited by macherlakumar 2010-12-03 9:54 AM

@ 2010-12-03 10:25 AM (#2749 - in reply to #2748) (#2749) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-03 10:25 AM

Demo button has been disabled.

@ 2010-12-03 2:08 PM (#2750 - in reply to #2749) (#2750) Top

vopani

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vopani posted @ 2010-12-03 2:08 PM

The timings of the Screen Test is a little different from the usual monthly tests. It overlaps the usual timings and is for a longer period:

Start Time:
22:00 IST (16:30 GMT) on Friday.

End Time:
22:00 IST (16:30 GMT) on Monday.

That amounts to a period of 72 hours.
Screen Test 1 start 8hrs from now :-)

@ 2010-12-03 7:29 PM (#2752 - in reply to #2750) (#2752) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-03 7:29 PM

Checkout some interesting feedbacks about ST1 here

@ 2010-12-03 10:16 PM (#2753 - in reply to #2752) (#2753) Top

vopani

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vopani posted @ 2010-12-03 10:16 PM

Screen Test 1 has started.

Good luck to all participants! :-)

@ 2010-12-04 2:53 AM (#2754 - in reply to #2753) (#2754) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2010-12-04 2:53 AM

Link for results is updated in ST1 landing page

@ 2010-12-04 7:46 AM (#2755 - in reply to #2744) (#2755) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-04 7:46 AM

After reviewing the first 20 results that we have received, it looks like some players have started ST#1 without reading the Guide.

2 things about scoring that everyone must know before starting ST#1

1) Solving a puzzle early and Clicking on next puzzle will fetch you bonus points. [If you don't click on 'next puzzle', you don't get bonus. You just get the base points ]
2) A wrong answer fetches you -ve points.

please read the guide for details!

@ 2010-12-04 10:24 AM (#2756 - in reply to #2755) (#2756) Top

davep

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davep posted @ 2010-12-04 10:24 AM

"After reviewing the first 20 results that we have received, it looks like some players have started ST#1 without reading the Guide"

Guilty as charged...

My first time trying out a screen test puzzle, thought it was great fun -- I found myself wishing for another 30-45 seconds on several of the puzzles, but that was my own fault for not preparing better and knowing some of the solving tricks right off the bat.

Really well done interface and concept, compliments as always...

Dave

@ 2010-12-04 10:58 AM (#2758 - in reply to #2692) (#2758) Top

thesubro

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thesubro posted @ 2010-12-04 10:58 AM

Three things I cant understand ...

1. I have checked and rechecked my answer for missing words and I am certain it is right but I do not think I was credited with a correct answer. Whih leads to number ...

2. I went back to check which ones on my result sheet I got wrong and it would not let me see the results I had again - until X number of minutes pass. (???)

3. Finally, I was ranked 10 of 28 when I was done. Now I am ranked 11 of 28 (???)... but no one else apparently took the test, yet I fell.

Great test. Loved taking it, just a bit confused now ...

Thanks for the hard work putting this together.

Regards,

TheSubro

@ 2010-12-04 11:15 AM (#2759 - in reply to #2758) (#2759) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-04 11:15 AM

thesubro - 2010-12-04 10:58 AM

Three things I cant understand ...

1. I have checked and rechecked my answer for missing words and I am certain it is right but I do not think I was credited with a correct answer. Whih leads to number ...

2. I went back to check which ones on my result sheet I got wrong and it would not let me see the results I had again - until X number of minutes pass. (???)

3. Finally, I was ranked 10 of 28 when I was done. Now I am ranked 11 of 28 (???)... but no one else apparently took the test, yet I fell.

Great test. Loved taking it, just a bit confused now ...

Thanks for the hard work putting this together.

Regards,

TheSubro

1. Please check my PM
2. We had to put a constraint that while the tests are running, players can refresh only once in 30 minutes. [ We added this in Renban. Because we found that some players are refreshing the score page every other minute, which might affect the server performance while the test is running for others ]
3. For this test you are shown only your score. Some some other player would have finished between your 1st check and 2nd check.

@ 2010-12-04 11:54 AM (#2760 - in reply to #2758) (#2760) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-12-04 11:54 AM

My mistake.
The scoring page had an incorrect entry for Missing words. This has been fixed.

NOTE: This was a problem only in the score page. The puzzle has no problems.