@ 2018-05-12 10:27 AM (#24905 - in reply to #24866) (#24905) TopAn LMI player
An LMI player posted @ 2018-05-12 10:27 AM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Letter Weights | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2018-05-12 11:47 AM (#24906 - in reply to #24900) (#24906) TopPosts: 774
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rakesh_rai posted @ 2018-05-12 11:47 AM
chaotic_iak - 2018-05-11 10:36 PM
I felt I got stuck in Puzzle 12 for a very long time; 9 minutes for 2 points doesn't seem correct. The other puzzles felt they were worth the right amount, though.
I felt I got stuck in Puzzle 12 for a very long time; 9 minutes for 2 points doesn't seem correct. The other puzzles felt they were worth the right amount, though.
This puzzle was different from the other two but, in essence, it only needed the remaining Os (for OBOE and OCTOPUS) to be correctly determined. (Two out of five possible places). After that it was easy to complete. During testing we found this to be roughly of the same level of difficulty as the other two. However I have observed the preference for 13 and 14 over 12, for most participants so far. So, post-event, its possible that it may actually be slightly (~1 point) undervalued.
@ 2018-05-12 12:16 PM (#24907 - in reply to #24866) (#24907) TopAn LMI player
An LMI player posted @ 2018-05-12 12:16 PM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Arithmetic Square | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2018-05-12 2:31 PM (#24908 - in reply to #24866) (#24908) TopPosts: 668
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swaroop2011 posted @ 2018-05-12 2:31 PM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Letter Weights | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
Never give a test in hurry. But not an option for me this time, since I am traveling. Messed up lots of puzzles. And should have attempted all word puzzles first, as they were high points and much easy to solve than casual stuff.
This might be my discard mostly. Let's see.
But very hard test in my opinion. Hardest of all so far.
I enjoyed solving, whichiver i solved.
Answer keys. I got confused, as some letters were combined and i was not sure how to enter it. May be i missed instructions somewhere, but eventually i figured it out.
Thanks Rakesh and LMI.
@ 2018-05-12 2:41 PM (#24909 - in reply to #24866) (#24909) TopAn LMI player
An LMI player posted @ 2018-05-12 2:41 PM
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Average | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Shortest Distances | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Answer keys were horrible | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2018-05-12 3:06 PM (#24910 - in reply to #24909) (#24910) TopPosts: 774
Country : India
rakesh_rai posted @ 2018-05-12 3:06 PM
An LMI player - 2018-05-12 2:41 PM
Can you elaborate which answer keys were horrible, so that we can work on improving on it in future.
@ 2018-05-12 5:01 PM (#24911 - in reply to #24866) (#24911) TopPosts: 7
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EoHeongMat posted @ 2018-05-12 5:01 PM
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Answer keys could have been better |
@ 2018-05-12 5:43 PM (#24912 - in reply to #24866) (#24912) TopPosts: 17
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Gyuszi13 posted @ 2018-05-12 5:43 PM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Arithmetic Square | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2018-05-12 8:34 PM (#24914 - in reply to #24866) (#24914) TopPosts: 49
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Kithyane posted @ 2018-05-12 8:34 PM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Double Letter Scrabble | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2018-05-13 12:16 PM (#24915 - in reply to #24866) (#24915) TopPosts: 419
Country : India
kishy72 posted @ 2018-05-13 12:16 PM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Below Average | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Answer keys were horrible | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth too much or too little |
Worthless test and simply waste of time.
@ 2018-05-13 12:37 PM (#24916 - in reply to #24904) (#24916) TopPosts: 241
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chaotic_iak posted @ 2018-05-13 12:37 PM
rakesh_rai - 2018-05-12 12:00 PM
I agree that counting is tedious - for everyone. The intention was that participants solve it completely logically (actually count the possibilities). That is the reason "close" answers were not considered correct. I think the points for counting puzzles are correct. Possibly #3 could have one more point.
You can suggest if you think there is a good way to achieve the above objective - "some way for us to be sure of the answer"
chaotic_iak - 2018-05-11 10:36 PM
I think the counting puzzles need some way for us to be sure of our answer, since unlike other puzzles, if you make a mistake there you essentially have to redo it. (That also means counting puzzles should probably get more points.)
I think the counting puzzles need some way for us to be sure of our answer, since unlike other puzzles, if you make a mistake there you essentially have to redo it. (That also means counting puzzles should probably get more points.)
I agree that counting is tedious - for everyone. The intention was that participants solve it completely logically (actually count the possibilities). That is the reason "close" answers were not considered correct. I think the points for counting puzzles are correct. Possibly #3 could have one more point.
You can suggest if you think there is a good way to achieve the above objective - "some way for us to be sure of the answer"
Oh, I definitely solved them all logically, but it's *extremely* prone to miscount, which is the problem. If you get a single miscount somewhere, you must check your whole work, essentially redoing it; in more standard puzzles, you can scan for the error and find it quickly (even if fixing it might be harder).
@ 2018-05-13 12:39 PM (#24917 - in reply to #24906) (#24917) TopPosts: 241
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chaotic_iak posted @ 2018-05-13 12:39 PM
rakesh_rai - 2018-05-12 2:47 PM
This puzzle was different from the other two but, in essence, it only needed the remaining Os (for OBOE and OCTOPUS) to be correctly determined. (Two out of five possible places). After that it was easy to complete. During testing we found this to be roughly of the same level of difficulty as the other two. However I have observed the preference for 13 and 14 over 12, for most participants so far. So, post-event, its possible that it may actually be slightly (~1 point) undervalued.
chaotic_iak - 2018-05-11 10:36 PM
I felt I got stuck in Puzzle 12 for a very long time; 9 minutes for 2 points doesn't seem correct. The other puzzles felt they were worth the right amount, though.
I felt I got stuck in Puzzle 12 for a very long time; 9 minutes for 2 points doesn't seem correct. The other puzzles felt they were worth the right amount, though.
This puzzle was different from the other two but, in essence, it only needed the remaining Os (for OBOE and OCTOPUS) to be correctly determined. (Two out of five possible places). After that it was easy to complete. During testing we found this to be roughly of the same level of difficulty as the other two. However I have observed the preference for 13 and 14 over 12, for most participants so far. So, post-event, its possible that it may actually be slightly (~1 point) undervalued.
I noticed that but had trouble locating where those two words could be; it took me ~8 of those 9 minutes. That's why I thought it was undervalued.
@ 2018-05-13 8:30 PM (#24919 - in reply to #24866) (#24919) TopAn LMI player
An LMI player posted @ 2018-05-13 8:30 PM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Scrabble | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2018-05-13 8:52 PM (#24920 - in reply to #24866) (#24920) TopPosts: 65
Country : United States
WA1729 posted @ 2018-05-13 8:52 PM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Curve Data | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
Thank you!
Favorite Puzzles:
9 Curve Data
14 Regionless Meandering Words
15 Scrabble
17 Letter Scrabble
18 Double Letter Scrabble
@ 2018-05-13 10:19 PM (#24921 - in reply to #24866) (#24921) TopPosts: 83
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Gotroch posted @ 2018-05-13 10:19 PM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Scrabble | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2018-05-14 2:25 AM (#24922 - in reply to #24866) (#24922) TopPosts: 59
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bob posted @ 2018-05-14 2:25 AM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Average | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
I'll be honest--this is my least favorite category even before starting. To me, "casual" puzzles seem to me to be all about guessing, trial and error, counting and hoping, and more tiral and error. So I was really looking forward to the word puzzles which I thought would at least be logical but found them staggeringly difficult. I started with the last page. Missing Letters OK, kind of fun. Word Search I spent almost 40 minutes on a 2-point puzzle and could not even finish it. Several possibile locations for many of the words leads to dozens and dozens of combinations to avoid overlap. I could not find the right one and finally gave up. Final Double Letter Scrabble another 30 minutes trying to place my last word LATUR to no avail. May be just a bad round for me but very discouraging.
@ 2018-05-14 12:28 PM (#24923 - in reply to #24866) (#24923) TopPosts: 55
Country : India
pranavmanu posted @ 2018-05-14 12:28 PM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many medium difficult puzzles | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Letter Scrabble | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2018-05-14 3:55 PM (#24924 - in reply to #24866) (#24924) TopPosts: 170
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rob posted @ 2018-05-14 3:55 PM
There were some really nice puzzles in here, but the misleading point distribution broke the contest for me. (To a large part I feel I should just have realized this and not sunk so much time into the undervalued puzzles.)
Edited by rob 2018-05-14 3:55 PM
Edited by rob 2018-05-14 3:55 PM
@ 2018-05-14 6:49 PM (#24925 - in reply to #24866) (#24925) TopPosts: 315
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Para posted @ 2018-05-14 6:49 PM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Double Letter Scrabble | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
This seemed much harder than the previous sets. It required a lot of right insight from the start to even begin too many puzzles. I find this slows solving down a lot more in a full set as it is harder to get into a solving flow. It also leads to problems with point values as they can severely increase solving times if you don't get it from the start. It's always hard to rate these puzzles though.
Also, I will never learn how to properly count, no matter how hard I try.
@ 2018-05-14 11:52 PM (#24926 - in reply to #24866) (#24926) TopPosts: 268
Country : India
rvarun posted @ 2018-05-14 11:52 PM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Letter Weights | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
Thanks Rakesh and LMI for the high quality test. Though the puzzles were difficult on the whole for a PR round, I found the puzzles which I solved to have a logical start or logical solve.
This may be the round for everyone who dont have to remember confusing and contradicting rules of many other puzzles. Overall a good set and nice experience.
@ 2018-05-15 12:03 AM (#24927 - in reply to #24866) (#24927) TopPosts: 11
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misko posted @ 2018-05-15 12:03 AM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Average | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2018-05-15 1:40 AM (#24928 - in reply to #24866) (#24928) TopPosts: 22
Country : Germany
JonaS2010 posted @ 2018-05-15 1:40 AM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Average | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Double Letter Scrabble | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
So... the guessing round. It was clear from the start that this wouldn't be a strong round for me, as I hate casual puzzles and have only a mild interest in word puzzles. Some puzzles that I attempted during the test were ok, with double letter scrabble #18 being the most memorable one for me. Somewhere in the middle of the test, however, I lost interest in the puzzles and the round, and got tired of all the intuition-based word placements.
Certainly my least favourite round so far :(
@ 2018-05-15 12:24 PM (#24929 - in reply to #24866) (#24929) TopAn LMI player
An LMI player posted @ 2018-05-15 12:24 PM
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Shortest Distances | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Answer keys could have been better | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2018-05-15 12:30 PM (#24930 - in reply to #24915) (#24930) TopPosts: 774
Country : India
rakesh_rai posted @ 2018-05-15 12:30 PM
kishy72 - 2018-05-13 12:16 PM
Worthless test and simply waste of time.
Worthless test and simply waste of time.
Can you elaborate which answer keys were horrible, so that we can work on improving on it in future.
@ 2018-05-15 8:10 PM (#24932 - in reply to #24866) (#24932) TopAn LMI player
An LMI player posted @ 2018-05-15 8:10 PM
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many medium difficult puzzles | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Scrabble | |
| What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |