@ 2017-03-18 1:13 PM (#22686 - in reply to #22657) (#22686) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 45 Country : India | Swagatam posted @ 2017-03-18 1:13 PM
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@ 2017-03-18 9:31 PM (#22687 - in reply to #22657) (#22687) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 1 Country : Australia | TheGreatEscaper posted @ 2017-03-18 9:31 PM
This was really fun, this was the first test I've taken on this site. I think I managed to do fairly well, although obviously there were people doing miles better than I was! The puzzles were really fun, and had very nice solving paths. Super enjoyable, I'll be a regular from now on! | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-18 11:52 PM (#22688 - in reply to #22657) (#22688) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 139 Country : Estonia | TiiT posted @ 2017-03-18 11:52 PM
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@ 2017-03-19 1:11 AM (#22689 - in reply to #22657) (#22689) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 225 Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2017-03-19 1:11 AM Definitely harder than the previous two PR's. I would recommend something else as answer keys for Minesweepers and Akari. Counting mines each row in a big grid (which was worth like 2 points was quite irking). Maybe, count 3-4 rows/columns instead? I enjoyed the pentomino section a lot, the second instructionless was very beautiful - although I was 30 seconds too late to submit it :( | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-19 3:55 AM (#22690 - in reply to #22657) (#22690) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 187 Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2017-03-19 3:55 AM
An excellent set of puzzles. My thanks to Nikola Zivanovic and Cedomir Milanovic, you made me happy today. :) | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-19 6:00 AM (#22691 - in reply to #22657) (#22691) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 59 Country : United States | bob posted @ 2017-03-19 6:00 AM
I found many of the puzzles extremely difficult/impossible and am quite discouraged. Battleships--lots of trial and error. Instructionless didn't understand. I get that a ship middle is greater than a ship end and that ship ends are greater than water. But some ship ends are greater than other ship ends?? Minesweeper 3 (worth 2 points) I checked SIX times and I still don't see where I went wrong, lots of time wasted. The first tetromino placement I fumbled around with for some time--these seem largely intuition based. Some solvers can "see" how the pieces fall into place, I guess. I certainly can't. No time for anything else. Maybe time to try a different hobby. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-19 5:49 PM (#22692 - in reply to #22657) (#22692) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 42 Country : Serbia | skywalker posted @ 2017-03-19 5:49 PM
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@ 2017-03-19 8:16 PM (#22693 - in reply to #22657) (#22693) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 419 Country : India | kishy72 posted @ 2017-03-19 8:16 PM
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@ 2017-03-19 9:08 PM (#22694 - in reply to #22657) (#22694) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2017-03-19 9:08 PM
Thanks for a nice test. One complaint with the puzzle booklet: I'm using Ubuntu and answer grids for Instructionless examples were not printed while visible at the screen. Other grids are printed normally. I don't think this affected my perfomance significantly, but was definitely annoying. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-19 10:37 PM (#22695 - in reply to #22657) (#22695) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 65 Country : United States | WA1729 posted @ 2017-03-19 10:37 PM
Very nice! I loved the variations in this one. My favorite sets were the Hungarian Polyomino and Polyomino Observer puzzles. Favorite Puzzles: Pentomino Observer 3 Classic Tetromino 1 Akari 2 Tetromino Observer 2 Hungarian Tetromino 1 Thank you! | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-20 11:44 AM (#22696 - in reply to #22657) (#22696) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 16 Country : United States | mikeylyk posted @ 2017-03-20 11:44 AM im taking test now, there is no abc labels on tetromino observer, what order do letters go? | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-20 11:54 AM (#22697 - in reply to #22657) (#22697) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2017-03-20 11:54 AM Enter the rows first, from top to bottom. Then columns from left to right. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-20 3:24 PM (#22698 - in reply to #22657) (#22698) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 668 Country : India | swaroop2011 posted @ 2017-03-20 3:24 PM
Very nice set of puzzles. But felt too many hard puzzles considering the spirit of PR. Need to solve yet remaining ones. Mostly the high pointers left. I liked the Instructionless Ideas. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-20 3:44 PM (#22699 - in reply to #22657) (#22699) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 172 Country : ITALY | forcolin posted @ 2017-03-20 3:44 PM
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@ 2017-03-20 6:31 PM (#22700 - in reply to #22657) (#22700) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 542 Country : India | rajeshk posted @ 2017-03-20 6:31 PM I liked the theme of Minesweepers and Akari where Pentominos are used :) Edited by rajeshk 2017-03-20 6:31 PM | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-20 8:45 PM (#22701 - in reply to #22657) (#22701) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 739 Country : India | vopani posted @ 2017-03-20 8:45 PM
Too hard for PR. Would have been a nice monthly test otherwise. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-21 6:42 AM (#22702 - in reply to #22657) (#22702) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 51 Country : India | RameshLMI posted @ 2017-03-21 6:42 AM Puzzles were harder than previous PR round. I too felt that the answer keys for Akari and Minesweeper were lengthy. However, I enjoyed solving Minesweeper and Akari puzzles. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-21 1:38 PM (#22703 - in reply to #22657) (#22703) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 51 Country : India | RameshLMI posted @ 2017-03-21 1:38 PM
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@ 2017-03-21 4:34 PM (#22704 - in reply to #22657) (#22704) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 72 Country : South Korea | Joo M.Y posted @ 2017-03-21 4:34 PM
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@ 2017-03-21 6:05 PM (#22705 - in reply to #22657) (#22705) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2017-03-21 6:05 PM
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@ 2017-03-21 9:10 PM (#22706 - in reply to #22705) (#22706) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 774 Country : India | rakesh_rai posted @ 2017-03-21 9:10 PM The object placement round was hard in 2016 and it ended up on the harder side in 2017 as well. The results also look similar - The top 3 (among those who participated, from last year's list) are the same as well. And, yes, the answer keys for akari and minesweeper do need improvement. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-21 9:17 PM (#22707 - in reply to #22684) (#22707) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 774 Country : India | rakesh_rai posted @ 2017-03-21 9:17 PM rob - 2017-03-18 2:54 AM That sounds more "thermo" than "inequality". ...Worse, the example is uniquely solvable with the given solution with the following rules: Normal battleships. Equals sign between cells means both cells are filled or both are empty. Less than sign between cells means that if the "smaller" cell is filled, then also the "greater" cell must be filled. For me, the example was good enough and since all the signs were placed in the centre row/column, it was quite apparent that the inequality relation applies to the two vertical/horizontal halves. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-21 9:50 PM (#22708 - in reply to #22707) (#22708) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 164 Country : Slovakia | greenhorn posted @ 2017-03-21 9:50 PM rakesh_rai - 2017-03-21 9:17 PM For me, the example was good enough and since all the signs were placed in the centre row/column, it was quite apparent that the inequality relation applies to the two vertical/horizontal halves. Agree, the example was fine. However I get confused by the Observer instructions. I am probably to lazy to read (or understand) the rules carefully, but it took me few minutes to realize that the numbers are always excluding the cell itself. I am not sure whether it is usual or not, but most of the puzzles like Cave or Kuromasu operate with "including" rule. I can not see any reason why to change the rules from time to time. Anyway, this test was great and even though I was disappointed by my performance, I really enjoyed solving the puzzles. Just after the test, I am quite surprised by my ranking. I would never guess, that incomplete solution may lead to 11th position. However the difficulty of tests within a series should be more balanced in the future. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-21 10:23 PM (#22709 - in reply to #22708) (#22709) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 241 Country : Indonesia | chaotic_iak posted @ 2017-03-21 10:23 PM greenhorn - 2017-03-22 12:50 AM I get confused by the Observer instructions. I am probably to lazy to read (or understand) the rules carefully, but it took me few minutes to realize that the numbers are always excluding the cell itself. I am not sure whether it is usual or not, but most of the puzzles like Cave or Kuromasu operate with "including" rule. I can not see any reason why to change the rules from time to time. Some puzzles (I can't remember which ones; I think Doors is one, but I know there are more) normally don't count the cell itself. Different genres develop differently. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2017-03-21 10:25 PM (#22710 - in reply to #22707) (#22710) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 241 Country : Indonesia | chaotic_iak posted @ 2017-03-21 10:25 PM rakesh_rai - 2017-03-22 12:17 AM rob - 2017-03-18 2:54 AM That sounds more "thermo" than "inequality". ...Worse, the example is uniquely solvable with the given solution with the following rules: Normal battleships. Equals sign between cells means both cells are filled or both are empty. Less than sign between cells means that if the "smaller" cell is filled, then also the "greater" cell must be filled. For me, the example was good enough and since all the signs were placed in the centre row/column, it was quite apparent that the inequality relation applies to the two vertical/horizontal halves. That's the problem with instructionless puzzles; when the variant idea gets unusual enough, it might be easier to come up with other unrelated rules. I would have just used the inequality signs on the row/column numbers to make it clear. |