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@ 2010-10-16 8:11 PM (#2221 - in reply to #2132) (#2221) Top

gramar



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gramar posted @ 2010-10-16 8:11 PM

Really enjoyed this, thank you Thomas - it was great to have a set of puzzles which was accessible to the enthsiastic amateur like myself as well as expert puzzlers! I just managed the easy ones but obtained some satisfaction in getting all 10 puzzle types correct.

Speaking of entry mistakes however, I did just get 9 marked correctly because I made a stupid error (only myself to blame) in copying out the numbers in the top row of the easy tomtom puzzle instead of the numbers for the row marked A!

Thanks again for the puzzles - just need to work on the harder ones now.
@ 2010-10-16 8:44 PM (#2222 - in reply to #2219) (#2222) Top

StGeorge



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StGeorge posted @ 2010-10-16 8:44 PM

motris - 2010-10-16 4:47 PM

thesubro - 2010-10-16 12:12 PM

Best test I have done on LMI yet. Nice pace and great puzzles. On the Hard Nurikabe, I had a brain lapse and did my 0s and 1s correct for Column A and then reversed them on Column. Any relief would be appreciated. Sorry to beg, but I feel compelled. Thanks for everything about this competition and website. Thanks.
Ken Levine
"TheSubro"


My goal on grading is to be lenient in cases where it's clear that a solver has an answer and simply made a mistake on the answer entry. This means mistakes like reversing 1's and 0's in the Nurikabe or putting the Mutant answer in the Hard spot will likely get credit, but I'm waiting until more solvers have answered to see what are the common entry mistakes to deal with.


Well I made the exact same error on the Mutant Nurikabe - I inverted the code for Column A. Also I switched the answers for the Easy and Hard Masyu. I'd be happy if you decide to count them as correct.
Too bad I also made a solving mistake on one of the minesweepers =\
@ 2010-10-16 8:52 PM (#2223 - in reply to #2222) (#2223) Top

motris



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motris posted @ 2010-10-16 8:52 PM

StGeorge - 2010-10-16 8:44 PM

Well I made the exact same error on the Mutant Nurikabe - I inverted the code for Column A. Also I switched the answers for the Easy and Hard Masyu. I'd be happy if you decide to count them as correct.
Too bad I also made a solving mistake on one of the minesweepers =\


You should now see credit for this entry.
@ 2010-10-16 8:57 PM (#2224 - in reply to #2223) (#2224) Top

StGeorge



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StGeorge posted @ 2010-10-16 8:57 PM

motris - 2010-10-16 5:52 PM
You should now see credit for this entry.


Cool, thanks :)
@ 2010-10-16 10:52 PM (#2226 - in reply to #2132) (#2226) Top

mathgrant




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mathgrant posted @ 2010-10-16 10:52 PM

I very nearly made a solving mistake in the Hard Minesweeper; however, I took the time to add up the numbers, and realized it wasn't the same as the number of mines listed beside the grid. Turns out I had two unsolved cells, one of which was a mine, and I fixed it easily.

Too bad I didn't do the same for the Mutant Tents; the sum of the numbers in my entry was an odd number, which for this particular Mutant would have been an immediate red flag that I had goofed. I also had one other wrong entry; neither of these, I believe, is worthy of the same grace that entering the Mutant answer in the Hard space would be. :)
@ 2010-10-17 12:48 AM (#2227 - in reply to #2132) (#2227) Top

ostroffj



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ostroffj posted @ 2010-10-17 12:48 AM

Whew. That was a blast. Had a very frantic five minutes at the end entering answers, finishing with 19 seconds to spare. Thankfully no entry mistakes, it seems.
@ 2010-10-17 1:00 AM (#2228 - in reply to #2132) (#2228) Top

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yureklis posted @ 2010-10-17 1:00 AM

I took the test. My first impression the contest is suitable for every puzzle solver. I made some mistakes, and wrong bonus strategy, i lost some points. But everyone lost something:)
Thank you very much Thomas for this smooth puzzle set. I didnt understand how pass the time. I love Battleships(mutant), ABC Connection(M), Tents(M) and Simple Loop(M).

Thank you very much for organizers.

Serkan
@ 2010-10-17 1:02 AM (#2229 - in reply to #2132) (#2229) Top

ostroffj



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ostroffj posted @ 2010-10-17 1:02 AM

Hmmm, seems I completely forgot about time bonuses. If I'm reading the rules correctly, they only matter once you've solved more than 20 puzzles, right?
@ 2010-10-17 3:07 AM (#2230 - in reply to #2219) (#2230) Top

standupcanada



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standupcanada posted @ 2010-10-17 3:07 AM

Great puzzles and loved the format. Nearly hit my target. (I hope you'll go gently on the grading - 130 points lost in transposing would be a good lesson for me though.) More to add later.
@ 2010-10-17 5:25 AM (#2231 - in reply to #2132) (#2231) Top

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forcolin posted @ 2010-10-17 5:25 AM

it was a great contest, as expected given the author.

as usual I spent the last minutes trying in vain to solve a hard mutant, just to discover after the end that there were other simpler mutants which could have given me maybe 30 more points...
I like the bonus structure and I got a satisfactory bonus - for the first time I even managed to get some (few) time bonus points!!!
Great stuff !!!

Stefano

Edited by forcolin 2010-10-17 5:40 AM
@ 2010-10-17 9:00 AM (#2232 - in reply to #2132) (#2232) Top

figonometry



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figonometry posted @ 2010-10-17 9:00 AM

I had one badly verified guess, and one stupid 'greater than' error, but three time bonus points! Woot!

In any case, awesome test again. Thanks a bunch!
@ 2010-10-17 9:03 AM (#2233 - in reply to #2229) (#2233) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-10-17 9:03 AM

ostroffj - 2010-10-17 1:02 AM

Hmmm, seems I completely forgot about time bonuses. If I'm reading the rules correctly, they only matter once you've solved more than 20 puzzles, right?
that is correct. More than 20 solved (and submitted) correctly
@ 2010-10-17 5:57 PM (#2234 - in reply to #2132) (#2234) Top

drsteve



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drsteve posted @ 2010-10-17 5:57 PM

Wasted a lot of time on the hard minesweeper (and got it wrong) and messed up the solution to easy battleships, easy skyscraper (typed in the adjacent column, but solved the puzzle correctly), mutant nurikabe - typed a 1 instead of a 0 at one point. Finished the hard nurikabe with 17 seconds to spare though, so that made up for it a bit...

Wonderful test - loads of fun.
@ 2010-10-17 6:32 PM (#2235 - in reply to #2132) (#2235) Top

pafcio123



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pafcio123 posted @ 2010-10-17 6:32 PM

hello, great puzzles. I have question about Smiple loop - mutant. I do not know why my answer is incorect?

regards
@ 2010-10-17 6:46 PM (#2236 - in reply to #2132) (#2236) Top

pafcio123



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pafcio123 posted @ 2010-10-17 6:46 PM

ok, sorry. I missed a letter in the answer

regards
@ 2010-10-17 8:57 PM (#2238 - in reply to #2234) (#2238) Top

motris



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motris posted @ 2010-10-17 8:57 PM

drsteve - 2010-10-17 5:57 PM

Wasted a lot of time on the hard minesweeper (and got it wrong) and messed up the solution to easy battleships, easy skyscraper (typed in the adjacent column, but solved the puzzle correctly), mutant nurikabe - typed a 1 instead of a 0 at one point. Finished the hard nurikabe with 17 seconds to spare though, so that made up for it a bit...

Wonderful test - loads of fun.


We've given you credit on the skyscrapers as you've entered a valid other column; a few others have made column swap changes too, so where it's clear it was an entry mistake while looking at a finished puzzle we've given points.
@ 2010-10-17 9:10 PM (#2239 - in reply to #2132) (#2239) Top

tabascq



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tabascq posted @ 2010-10-17 9:10 PM

I can't get past the first 'unplanned' puzzle - namely, where should I be looking to see the 'Document Open Password'? Am I just dense, or is my browser not displaying it properly? I understand you can't just print it here, but some kind of direction would be helpful.
@ 2010-10-17 9:15 PM (#2240 - in reply to #2239) (#2240) Top

tabascq



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tabascq posted @ 2010-10-17 9:15 PM

Ahem. It appeared to me that logging in actually constituted a start of the test, and the subsequent Start button didn't look enough like a button to get my attention. Perhaps I should just stay in bed today. :-)
@ 2010-10-17 9:25 PM (#2242 - in reply to #2240) (#2242) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-10-17 9:25 PM

tabascq - 2010-10-17 9:15 PM

Ahem. It appeared to me that logging in actually constituted a start of the test, and the subsequent Start button didn't look enough like a button to get my attention. Perhaps I should just stay in bed today. :-)

I agree that "Start 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon" button is little small, and not that easy to locate.
We'll make it bigger in subsequent tests.

However note that your timer starts only after you click on that button. So, no one really loses time because of this problem.
@ 2010-10-18 2:18 AM (#2243 - in reply to #2132) (#2243) Top

gramar



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gramar posted @ 2010-10-18 2:18 AM

Just noticed I've been credited with the points for the easy tomtom puzzle following my submission error. Much appreciated!!
@ 2010-10-18 3:12 AM (#2244 - in reply to #2132) (#2244) Top

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zhergan posted @ 2010-10-18 3:12 AM

Really great set of puzzles It was very enjoyable

Most of the puzzles were designed very well and my top three
were the mutants of Battleships, Number Skeleton
and TomTom (with mystery number set, nice idea).

Thomas for nice puzzles and LMI for this organization

Zafer
@ 2010-10-18 3:23 AM (#2245 - in reply to #2238) (#2245) Top

detuned



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detuned posted @ 2010-10-18 3:23 AM

motris - 2010-10-17 3:57 PM

drsteve - 2010-10-17 5:57 PM

Wasted a lot of time on the hard minesweeper (and got it wrong) and messed up the solution to easy battleships, easy skyscraper (typed in the adjacent column, but solved the puzzle correctly), mutant nurikabe - typed a 1 instead of a 0 at one point. Finished the hard nurikabe with 17 seconds to spare though, so that made up for it a bit...

Wonderful test - loads of fun.


We've given you credit on the skyscrapers as you've entered a valid other column; a few others have made column swap changes too, so where it's clear it was an entry mistake while looking at a finished puzzle we've given points.


Thomas - I entered the first column rather than the second for the hard nurikabe. Also on the hard minesweeper, I made a rather silly transposition of digits typing in too quickly. The digits are adjacent - which I think is strong evidence in favour of a typing (as opposed to puzzling) error.

I only mention this as the difference between having these two puzzles marked as right will do wonders (+25%) for my score :)
@ 2010-10-18 3:25 AM (#2246 - in reply to #2132) (#2246) Top

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detuned posted @ 2010-10-18 3:25 AM

I should also mention good job on the puzzles. Nice design on the easy masyu :)
@ 2010-10-18 3:56 AM (#2247 - in reply to #2245) (#2247) Top

motris



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motris posted @ 2010-10-18 3:56 AM

detuned - 2010-10-18 3:23 AM
Thomas - I entered the first column rather than the second for the hard nurikabe. Also on the hard minesweeper, I made a rather silly transposition of digits typing in too quickly. The digits are adjacent - which I think is strong evidence in favour of a typing (as opposed to puzzling) error.

I only mention this as the difference between having these two puzzles marked as right will do wonders (+25%) for my score :)


Having read the thread on the UK forum saying "hey, we all entered wrong columns", I'm surprised you did too. All four got points back though, so you'll get the Nurikabe points.

No go on minesweeper regrading though. It is easy to imagine an incorrect solution with a mine moved by one spot, so I cannot reward an answer there as wrong answers are a lot like right answers on minesweeper.
@ 2010-10-18 4:11 AM (#2248 - in reply to #2132) (#2248) Top

detuned



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detuned posted @ 2010-10-18 4:11 AM

Ah yeah - I can see exactly what you mean re that "tweak" (naturally I maintain my innocence nevertheless). The pain is in losing so much bonus - especially when I realise I forgot to put in the hard battleships. I don't think there should be too much surprise in my general error-proneness though!
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