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TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 201647 posts • Page 1 of 2 • 1 2
Select the Tapa variations that you would want to see in TVC XIX
We are preparing TVC XIX puzzles considering result of the poll. 6 Most voted variations will be directly placed in TVC XIX. Link to Tapa Variations List.
OptionResults
Lonely Tapa (page 53)34 Votes - [13.33%]
Tapa Pentopool (page 4)30 Votes - [11.76%]
Thermometer Tapa (page 15)27 Votes - [10.59%]
Tapa Chain (page 44)22 Votes - [8.63%]
Tapa Row (page 23)21 Votes - [8.24%]
Anglers Tapa (page 29)20 Votes - [7.84%]
Math Tapa (page 3)19 Votes - [7.45%]
Latin Tapa (page 50)19 Votes - [7.45%]
Tapa Golem Grad (page 52)19 Votes - [7.45%]
Tapa: Complementary Pairs (page 41)16 Votes - [6.27%]
Radar Tapa (page 51)15 Votes - [5.88%]
3/4 Tapa (page 7)13 Votes - [5.1%]
This is a multiple choice poll.

@ 2016-12-06 7:53 AM (#22158 - in reply to #20678) (#22158) Top

ghirsch



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ghirsch posted @ 2016-12-06 7:53 AM

For Tapa 1-n, is it required that the numbers of cells in each row/column must be in the range 1-n (as the name seems to suggest)? Or can there be rows/columns with 0 shaded cells?
@ 2016-12-09 1:48 PM (#22173 - in reply to #20678) (#22173) Top

deepti.garg



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deepti.garg posted @ 2016-12-09 1:48 PM

Hi,
I want to practice TAPA classic and variants, can you recommend some puzzle book which I can order online to practice.
@ 2016-12-09 3:01 PM (#22176 - in reply to #22173) (#22176) Top

rob



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rob posted @ 2016-12-09 3:01 PM

deepti.garg - 2016-12-09 1:48 PM

Hi,
I want to practice TAPA classic and variants, can you recommend some puzzle book which I can order online to practice.


Sounds like Serkan's Tapa and Variations book is just what you're looking for: http://www.gmpuzzles.com/store/classic-and-variations-series

Otherwise the TVC archives provide plenty of practice material: http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/
@ 2016-12-09 9:58 PM (#22179 - in reply to #20678) (#22179) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-12-09 9:58 PM

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Password protected puzzle has 11 pages (including a cover page with points table)
Time bonus will be computed after you click 'Claim Bonus'
Penalty will be given irrespective of correctness of submission



Contest Length : 75 minutes
Total Points : 1000
Bonus : 3 points per minute saved (Computed upto seconds)
Grace Period : 5 minutes
Penalty : 5 points per minute used (Computed upto seconds)


@ 2016-12-10 12:00 AM (#22181 - in reply to #20678) (#22181) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2016-12-10 12:00 AM

Some practice puzzles collected by James: http://forum.ukpuzzles.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1619
@ 2016-12-10 3:15 AM (#22182 - in reply to #20678) (#22182) Top

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Jacoblance posted @ 2016-12-10 3:15 AM

Why are all answers marked as wrong? (Or just all 7 people who have submitted so far did not get any correct answers, but I doubt that!)
@ 2016-12-10 4:05 AM (#22183 - in reply to #22182) (#22183) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-12-10 4:05 AM

Jacoblance - 2016-12-10 3:15 AM

Why are all answers marked as wrong? (Or just all 7 people who have submitted so far did not get any correct answers, but I doubt that!)
We had not (yet) entered the solution keys in the score page. Have done that now. Please check score page again.
@ 2016-12-10 8:33 AM (#22184 - in reply to #20678) (#22184) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2016-12-10 8:33 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


All nice puzzles, no complaints. Okay, maybe Chain Tapa should be named Cyclic Tapa (#105, p40), but otherwise no problem. All good puzzles; memorable ones are Arrow Tapa, the second Anglers Tapa, and Tapa Pentopool (which I typoed because I thought the last grid was 10x10, not 11x11).
@ 2016-12-10 9:11 AM (#22185 - in reply to #20678) (#22185) Top

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mstang posted @ 2016-12-10 9:11 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-12-11 6:52 AM (#22187 - in reply to #20678) (#22187) Top

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WA1729 posted @ 2016-12-11 6:52 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


My favorites were 1-n, Arrows and Anglers. Thanks!
@ 2016-12-11 1:02 PM (#22190 - in reply to #20678) (#22190) Top

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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-12-11 8:39 PM (#22192 - in reply to #20678) (#22192) Top

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peluri posted @ 2016-12-11 8:39 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-12-11 10:30 PM (#22193 - in reply to #20678) (#22193) Top

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greenhorn posted @ 2016-12-11 10:30 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-12-11 11:47 PM (#22194 - in reply to #20678) (#22194) Top

rob



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rob posted @ 2016-12-11 11:47 PM

Thanks Fatih and Serkan, that was a lovely set of puzzles.

I struggled quite a bit with the Chain Tapa, and breezed through the Power of Tapa, but other than that things felt pretty even.

Now I look forward to the next one!
@ 2016-12-12 10:29 AM (#22195 - in reply to #20678) (#22195) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2016-12-12 10:29 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


I didn't really have a good run. There were a lot of errors on my side. I had to restart a number of puzzles.

The grey cells in the Chain Sudoku were too light for me. I couldn't really tell the difference between white and grey very well on my print. Also a minor nitpick, it wasn't technically the right variant as that was a Cyclic Tapa.
@ 2016-12-12 11:50 AM (#22198 - in reply to #20678) (#22198) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2016-12-12 11:50 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


All of the puzzles I tried were very fun, thanks Serkan! I especially enjoyed the second Black Hole tapa, and the Arrows tapa.
@ 2016-12-12 1:34 PM (#22202 - in reply to #22195) (#22202) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2016-12-12 1:34 PM

Para - 2016-12-12 10:29 AM

I didn't really have a good run. There were a lot of errors on my side. I had to restart a number of puzzles.

The grey cells in the Chain Sudoku were too light for me. I couldn't really tell the difference between white and grey very well on my print. Also a minor nitpick, it wasn't technically the right variant as that was a Cyclic Tapa.


I didn't realize the gray cell brightness, mostly I'm using nearly same gray tones in a booklet, but next time I'll be much more careful about this. You are right about Chain Tapa, one of the competitors mentioned same issue, I know. Several years ago when Cihan offered these variants I said they are same, but from his side, it was not. I think the Cyclic Tapa variant already contains the Chain Tapa idea naturally, so Chain Tapa is not a different variant. After designing the competition puzzle for TVC XIX, I'm much more sure now. So I'm going to remove the Chain Tapa variant from the TVC Variant List.
@ 2016-12-13 12:21 AM (#22203 - in reply to #20678) (#22203) Top

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serdars posted @ 2016-12-13 12:21 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Honestly, this was my very first online contest and it was pretty fun. Puzzles were creatively designed(at least I can say this about the puzzles I accomplished to solve). I really enjoyed this idea of competing online on a particular type of puzzle and I am looking forward for the next one. Nicely done! Thank you for your effort!
@ 2016-12-13 12:43 AM (#22204 - in reply to #20678) (#22204) Top

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rhaenyst posted @ 2016-12-13 12:43 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2016-12-13 1:03 AM (#22205 - in reply to #22202) (#22205) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2016-12-13 1:03 AM

yureklis - 2016-12-12 4:34 PM

After designing the competition puzzle for TVC XIX, I'm much more sure now. So I'm going to remove the Chain Tapa variant from the TVC Variant List.


I'd remove Cyclic Tapa instead; cyclic implies it must make a cycle, while chain doesn't, so it's Cyclic Tapa that is contained in Chain Tapa, not the other way around.

I'd suggest to even change the name or something. For me, "chain" sounds like you solve a grid fully, then you move to the next grid and solve it fully, then the next, and so on; later grids don't influence earlier ones. But that's a minor nitpick; it's maybe just me.
@ 2016-12-13 4:16 AM (#22206 - in reply to #22202) (#22206) Top

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greenhorn posted @ 2016-12-13 4:16 AM

yureklis - 2016-12-12 1:34 PM

I didn't realize the gray cell brightness, mostly I'm using nearly same gray tones in a booklet, but next time I'll be much more careful about this. You are right about Chain Tapa, one of the competitors mentioned same issue, I know. Several years ago when Cihan offered these variants I said they are same, but from his side, it was not. I think the Cyclic Tapa variant already contains the Chain Tapa idea naturally, so Chain Tapa is not a different variant. After designing the competition puzzle for TVC XIX, I'm much more sure now. So I'm going to remove the Chain Tapa variant from the TVC Variant List.


Having shaded and unshaded squares in this puzzles was not the best decision. I would rather use some easily recognizable pictures, for example squares, triangles, circles, stars to mark the chain clues. Anyway, thanks for the contest, it was pretty fun.

Edited by greenhorn 2016-12-13 4:17 AM
@ 2016-12-13 4:33 AM (#22207 - in reply to #20678) (#22207) Top

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KubySimsek posted @ 2016-12-13 4:33 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-12-13 4:38 AM (#22208 - in reply to #22206) (#22208) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2016-12-13 4:38 AM

greenhorn - 2016-12-13 4:16 AM

Having shaded and unshaded squares in this puzzles was not the best decision. I would rather use some easily recognizable pictures, for example squares, triangles, circles, stars to mark the chain clues. Anyway, thanks for the contest, it was pretty fun.


It make sense, I'll change the example and instruction of the puzzle as you suggested
@ 2016-12-13 6:49 AM (#22209 - in reply to #20678) (#22209) Top

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Grizix posted @ 2016-12-13 6:49 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-12-13 9:07 AM (#22210 - in reply to #20678) (#22210) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-12-13 9:07 AM

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