@ 2016-12-09 3:01 PM (#22176 - in reply to #22173) (#22176) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 170 Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2016-12-09 3:01 PM deepti.garg - 2016-12-09 1:48 PM Hi, I want to practice TAPA classic and variants, can you recommend some puzzle book which I can order online to practice. Sounds like Serkan's Tapa and Variations book is just what you're looking for: http://www.gmpuzzles.com/store/classic-and-variations-series Otherwise the TVC archives provide plenty of practice material: http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/ | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-09 9:58 PM (#22179 - in reply to #20678) (#22179) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2016-12-09 9:58 PM
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@ 2016-12-10 12:00 AM (#22181 - in reply to #20678) (#22181) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 183 Country : Turkey | yureklis posted @ 2016-12-10 12:00 AM Some practice puzzles collected by James: http://forum.ukpuzzles.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1619 | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-10 3:15 AM (#22182 - in reply to #20678) (#22182) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 9 Country : United States | Jacoblance posted @ 2016-12-10 3:15 AM Why are all answers marked as wrong? (Or just all 7 people who have submitted so far did not get any correct answers, but I doubt that!) | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-10 4:05 AM (#22183 - in reply to #22182) (#22183) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2016-12-10 4:05 AM Jacoblance - 2016-12-10 3:15 AM We had not (yet) entered the solution keys in the score page. Have done that now. Please check score page again.Why are all answers marked as wrong? (Or just all 7 people who have submitted so far did not get any correct answers, but I doubt that!) | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-10 8:33 AM (#22184 - in reply to #20678) (#22184) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 241 Country : Indonesia | chaotic_iak posted @ 2016-12-10 8:33 AM
All nice puzzles, no complaints. Okay, maybe Chain Tapa should be named Cyclic Tapa (#105, p40), but otherwise no problem. All good puzzles; memorable ones are Arrow Tapa, the second Anglers Tapa, and Tapa Pentopool (which I typoed because I thought the last grid was 10x10, not 11x11). | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-10 9:11 AM (#22185 - in reply to #20678) (#22185) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 74 Country : United States | mstang posted @ 2016-12-10 9:11 AM
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@ 2016-12-11 6:52 AM (#22187 - in reply to #20678) (#22187) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 65 Country : United States | WA1729 posted @ 2016-12-11 6:52 AM
My favorites were 1-n, Arrows and Anglers. Thanks! | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-11 1:02 PM (#22190 - in reply to #20678) (#22190) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2016-12-11 1:02 PM
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@ 2016-12-11 8:39 PM (#22192 - in reply to #20678) (#22192) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 26 Country : Finland | peluri posted @ 2016-12-11 8:39 PM
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@ 2016-12-11 10:30 PM (#22193 - in reply to #20678) (#22193) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 164 Country : Slovakia | greenhorn posted @ 2016-12-11 10:30 PM
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@ 2016-12-11 11:47 PM (#22194 - in reply to #20678) (#22194) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 170 Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2016-12-11 11:47 PM Thanks Fatih and Serkan, that was a lovely set of puzzles. I struggled quite a bit with the Chain Tapa, and breezed through the Power of Tapa, but other than that things felt pretty even. Now I look forward to the next one! | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-12 10:29 AM (#22195 - in reply to #20678) (#22195) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 315 Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2016-12-12 10:29 AM
I didn't really have a good run. There were a lot of errors on my side. I had to restart a number of puzzles. The grey cells in the Chain Sudoku were too light for me. I couldn't really tell the difference between white and grey very well on my print. Also a minor nitpick, it wasn't technically the right variant as that was a Cyclic Tapa. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-12 11:50 AM (#22198 - in reply to #20678) (#22198) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 102 Country : United States | ghirsch posted @ 2016-12-12 11:50 AM
All of the puzzles I tried were very fun, thanks Serkan! I especially enjoyed the second Black Hole tapa, and the Arrows tapa. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-12 1:34 PM (#22202 - in reply to #22195) (#22202) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 183 Country : Turkey | yureklis posted @ 2016-12-12 1:34 PM Para - 2016-12-12 10:29 AM I didn't really have a good run. There were a lot of errors on my side. I had to restart a number of puzzles. The grey cells in the Chain Sudoku were too light for me. I couldn't really tell the difference between white and grey very well on my print. Also a minor nitpick, it wasn't technically the right variant as that was a Cyclic Tapa. I didn't realize the gray cell brightness, mostly I'm using nearly same gray tones in a booklet, but next time I'll be much more careful about this. You are right about Chain Tapa, one of the competitors mentioned same issue, I know. Several years ago when Cihan offered these variants I said they are same, but from his side, it was not. I think the Cyclic Tapa variant already contains the Chain Tapa idea naturally, so Chain Tapa is not a different variant. After designing the competition puzzle for TVC XIX, I'm much more sure now. So I'm going to remove the Chain Tapa variant from the TVC Variant List. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-13 12:21 AM (#22203 - in reply to #20678) (#22203) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 1 Country : Turkey | serdars posted @ 2016-12-13 12:21 AM
Honestly, this was my very first online contest and it was pretty fun. Puzzles were creatively designed(at least I can say this about the puzzles I accomplished to solve). I really enjoyed this idea of competing online on a particular type of puzzle and I am looking forward for the next one. Nicely done! Thank you for your effort! | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-13 12:43 AM (#22204 - in reply to #20678) (#22204) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 1 Country : Turkey | rhaenyst posted @ 2016-12-13 12:43 AM
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@ 2016-12-13 1:03 AM (#22205 - in reply to #22202) (#22205) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 241 Country : Indonesia | chaotic_iak posted @ 2016-12-13 1:03 AM yureklis - 2016-12-12 4:34 PM After designing the competition puzzle for TVC XIX, I'm much more sure now. So I'm going to remove the Chain Tapa variant from the TVC Variant List. I'd remove Cyclic Tapa instead; cyclic implies it must make a cycle, while chain doesn't, so it's Cyclic Tapa that is contained in Chain Tapa, not the other way around. I'd suggest to even change the name or something. For me, "chain" sounds like you solve a grid fully, then you move to the next grid and solve it fully, then the next, and so on; later grids don't influence earlier ones. But that's a minor nitpick; it's maybe just me. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-13 4:16 AM (#22206 - in reply to #22202) (#22206) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 164 Country : Slovakia | greenhorn posted @ 2016-12-13 4:16 AM yureklis - 2016-12-12 1:34 PM I didn't realize the gray cell brightness, mostly I'm using nearly same gray tones in a booklet, but next time I'll be much more careful about this. You are right about Chain Tapa, one of the competitors mentioned same issue, I know. Several years ago when Cihan offered these variants I said they are same, but from his side, it was not. I think the Cyclic Tapa variant already contains the Chain Tapa idea naturally, so Chain Tapa is not a different variant. After designing the competition puzzle for TVC XIX, I'm much more sure now. So I'm going to remove the Chain Tapa variant from the TVC Variant List. Having shaded and unshaded squares in this puzzles was not the best decision. I would rather use some easily recognizable pictures, for example squares, triangles, circles, stars to mark the chain clues. Anyway, thanks for the contest, it was pretty fun. Edited by greenhorn 2016-12-13 4:17 AM | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-13 4:33 AM (#22207 - in reply to #20678) (#22207) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 1 Country : Turkey | KubySimsek posted @ 2016-12-13 4:33 AM
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@ 2016-12-13 4:38 AM (#22208 - in reply to #22206) (#22208) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 183 Country : Turkey | yureklis posted @ 2016-12-13 4:38 AM greenhorn - 2016-12-13 4:16 AM Having shaded and unshaded squares in this puzzles was not the best decision. I would rather use some easily recognizable pictures, for example squares, triangles, circles, stars to mark the chain clues. Anyway, thanks for the contest, it was pretty fun. It make sense, I'll change the example and instruction of the puzzle as you suggested | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-13 6:49 AM (#22209 - in reply to #20678) (#22209) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 30 Country : France | Grizix posted @ 2016-12-13 6:49 AM
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@ 2016-12-13 9:07 AM (#22210 - in reply to #20678) (#22210) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2016-12-13 9:07 AM Link to solutions booklet | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-13 1:44 PM (#22211 - in reply to #20678) (#22211) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 183 Country : Turkey | yureklis posted @ 2016-12-13 1:44 PM Thanks to all participants. Top three are as follows: 1. Endo Ken (Japan) [18/18, 61:34 min] 2. Hideaki Jo (Japan) [18/18, 71:53 min] 3. Robert Vollmert (DEU) [18/18, 69:58 min] After nearly 10-11 months break, finally we can keep going. Having a such long break, that was not planned, it should have been 2-3 months because of my broken hand, but I couldn't do that, so I'm sorry for this. You know, in TVC series first one is always easier than the second one, I mean each leg of a series is getting harder. It means TVC XIX had to be harder than the TVC XVIII, so it does; because comparing last two results of TVC explain it. From my side, if we select a Tapa Master who must solve any kind of Tapa puzzles and difficulty range shouldn't be a case for him/her. However, there are some newcomers, and hard or complicated puzzles make trouble for them. My plan (I haven't shared with Kamer yet :) ) for the TVC XX is to increase number of puzzles in order to have an easy/medium and hard puzzles for each type. Thus we can introduce puzzles with a wide range of difficulty to all competitors. About TVC XIX 4 solvers submitted all puzzles correctly, some of them accomplished this before the end, some of them made it happen in extra time; but all did. In this Serie, Endo Ken got first place three legs in a row, this amazing performance was showed once before by Palmer Mebane, in 2012. - The puzzle solved by least competitors was Power of Tapa. It was solved by 18 competitors. - The puzzle solved by most competitors was Thermometer Tapa (Top). It was solved by 110 competitors. - The puzzle with the highest rating was Tapa 1-n. (8.83) and the puzzle with the lowest rating was Anglers Tapa (Top) (6.70). Full results table is here: http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/XIX/score.asp Cumulative Results after three legs: http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/2016.asp Tapa and Variations Ebook The last thing I should mention this. As some of puzzle designers, I'm sure you know all of them, we've been contributing to Grandmaster Puzzles. Recently the list of ebooks of GMP was updated, and one of the newest ebooks is the Tapa and Variations ebook, prepared by me. About the ebook, copied from the page: "This collection of 65 puzzles includes 17 new classic Tapa (including 1 giant), 36 new puzzles spread across 9 variations, and 12 favorites from past puzzle competitions." So if you are a newcomer, or you like to solve Tapa, this ebook might be satisfying to you. Here is the link: http://www.gmpuzzles.com/store/classic-and-variations-series Please feel free to share any ideas. Best, serkan | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-12-14 2:44 AM (#22212 - in reply to #20678) (#22212) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 18 Country : Germany | Nola posted @ 2016-12-14 2:44 AM
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