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Fred76
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![100](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![100](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![100](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Country : Switzerland | Fred76 posted @ 2015-11-14 8:48 PM Thanks for the nice test !
I really enjoyed !
My mistake was to think it would just be a small tournament with easy/medium sudokus, so I don't have to print the pdf (some cartridges of my printer are empty and I was too lazy to replace them), playing online should be ok. So I started the test while a bit tired and thinking it would just be relaxing time.
I'm not a big fan of sum frame sudoku, as I think it's globally always the same logic, it's impossible to have a real surprise with this variant.
On the contrary, I think group sum sudoku has big potential of being really interesting. I created my first group sum sudoku last year for the WSC swiss qualification and I think it's possible to create very nice group sum. One may think it's just about the same as killer sudoku, but I think some aspects are really different. And I must admit I haven't been disappointed during the test. Both 6*6 and 9*9 group sums were 10-stars sudokus. I think I was very efficient on the 6*6, I was quite fast at noticing the pairs 12 in rows 2 and 3. I had the beginning of the 9*9 quite fast, too. But unfortunately made a mistake, and had to start again. Then I eventually learnt a new trick on this 9*9 group sum sudoku. Very nice, thanks Rohan for this one !
Then came the equal product sudoku, and on the 9*9 I had hard regrets not having printing it. Not being able to write notes outside the grid was fatal for me. I made lot of very stupid mistakes by forgetting some possibilities for products many times while solving (it finally took me more than 30 minutes to solve it, haha !)
The only little critic I could make is that the tournament was perhaps a bit hard for the intended purpose. I was a bit surprised, but it was a very nice surprise for me ;)
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vopani
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Thanks a lot Rohan!A delightful test with some really novel ideas in solving and construction in particular.I had great fun!!
Thanks Kishore. I had predicted you would score 85 before the contest began :- )
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vopani
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I agree the test is a little hard, and that was intended.
I really loved the 6x6 Group Sum, it was my personal favourite of the set. The 9x9 Group Sum has a very narrow solving path, but logical.
The Equal Product 9x9 is tricky. I think if you do your homework well, it is a Medium-difficulty sudoku. It uses a lot of deductions from the crosses.
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Fred76
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![100](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![100](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![100](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Country : Switzerland | Fred76 posted @ 2015-11-14 9:48 PM Rohan Rao - 2015-11-14 9:13 PM
The Equal Product 9x9 is tricky. I think if you do your homework well, it is a Medium-difficulty sudoku. It uses a lot of deductions from the crosses.
I definitely agree. I solved it like a dilettante and had to face a lot of contradictions while solving because I was too lazy to really take it in a logical way, that's why I wasn't efficient on this one. |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2015-11-14 10:17 PM How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many medium difficult puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
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kishy72
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kishy72 - 2015-11-14 5:12 AM
Thanks a lot Rohan!A delightful test with some really novel ideas in solving and construction in particular.I had great fun!!
Thanks Kishore. I had predicted you would score 85 before the contest began :- )
Ah really? That's interesting.Next time,if you do, predict that I complete the test in 'X' number of mins :-p |
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vopani
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Rohan Rao - 2015-11-14 9:09 PM
kishy72 - 2015-11-14 5:12 AM
Thanks a lot Rohan!A delightful test with some really novel ideas in solving and construction in particular.I had great fun!!
Thanks Kishore. I had predicted you would score 85 before the contest began :- )
Ah really? That's interesting.Next time,if you do, predict that I complete the test in 'X' number of mins :-p
Haha! Well, I can only predict in tests that I author! So, next year :P
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neerajmehrotra
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achan1058
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How on earth are the small puzzles worth that many points? I solved quite a few of them quite a bit faster than I solved the classics. |
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poly503
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Country : Iran | poly503 posted @ 2015-11-15 4:01 AM How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
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shankarsudhir
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Country : India | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
Got a bit stuck initially, but enjoyed solving post hoc. Good set of puzzles ! |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2015-11-15 3:25 PM How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2015-11-15 4:46 PM How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2015-11-15 5:15 PM How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
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aditi2302
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Country : India | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
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TiiT
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2015-11-16 2:42 AM How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
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akash.doulani
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debmohanty
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@ admin. i just submitted my answers around 3-4 minutes back . but had forgotten to log in. please do the needful. Not exactly sure what that means. I can see you have got 65 |
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rajeshk
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lenzo
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ingmanc
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B. Thananon
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MrLiang
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