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kiwijam
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![100](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2015-11-02 2:32 PM I have learnt that I find it surprisingly difficult to (correctly) count the number of line corners in a row or column... :)
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kiwijam
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![100](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2015-11-02 2:36 PM How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Hashi | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
I liked the (new to me ) 5s interaction logic in the Hashis. I thought Magnets 3 was hard/undervalued. |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2015-11-02 3:25 PM How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Dominos | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth too much or too little | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Swagatam
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![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Country : India | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | |
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rakesh_rai
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2015-11-02 8:07 PM How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Dominos | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
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shankarsudhir
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Country : India | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Magnets | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
A good set of puzzles ! |
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RameshLMI
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![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Country : India | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many medium difficult puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Magnets | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2015-11-02 8:45 PM How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Anglers | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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auroux
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![100](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Country : France | auroux posted @ 2015-11-03 3:41 AM Thanks -- yesterday I just didn't see that 3 in the middle. I was obsessing over the 4's on the diagonals for exactly the same reason, but somehow didn't think of the 3 even though it's obviously a better place to start. Okay then, I have to take back some of my negative comments about the puzzle difficulties. I was just being stupid. (I still found Hashi and Arrows to be huge time sinks compared to other puzzle types for equal point values, but possibly it's because I'm just not good at those. My answering timeline doesn't quite reflect solve times due to my computer crashing partway through and needing to be rebooted twice). |
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devarajand
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![100](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) Country : India | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | representation could have been better | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Anglers | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Very good set of puzzles. I liked Multi Anglers most. |
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lenson
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![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Country : India | lenson posted @ 2015-11-03 9:59 AM How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many medium difficult puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Magnets | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
This was a hard test, and my performance was terrible. But I really enjoyed solving the puzzles after the test. Even though these are 'standard' types, many of the techniques needed to solve the puzzles in the set were unfamiliar to me. Figuring them out was an enjoyable experience. |
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rajeshk
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![500](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/500.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Country : India | rajeshk posted @ 2015-11-03 11:13 AM How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many medium difficult puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Dominos | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2015-11-03 12:43 PM How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | representation could have been better | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Anglers | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth too much or too little | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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amitsowani
![](/forum/profile/get-photo.asp?memberid=27&type=profile&rnd=234) Posts: 349
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Here is the result of voting for puzzle types : Anglers > Magnets > Dominos > Hashi > Arrows
The most consistent feedback is that the test contained a large percentage of hard puzzles. We had realized this before the test and in an attempt to balance the difficulty of the puzzles replaced one arrow and magnets puzzle with easier ones. The difficult ones might get used elsewhere (2017?) One option which would have helped is to reduce the grid sizes, especially for magnets.
Another concern was with regarding the distribution of points which becomes difficult when the puzzles have narrow solving paths. Also the fact that all the dominos were created by Deb and the rest of the puzzles by me added to the complexity. A little more extensive testing including solvers having varying levels of solving speed might have helped.
Thanks to Deb and Prasanna for helping with the organization of this test. Special thanks to Zrinka and Bram for test solving the puzzles at a short notice.
Thank you everyone for participating.
I will be posting a set of hints to help the beginners on some of the harder puzzles separately. |
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amitsowani
![](/forum/profile/get-photo.asp?memberid=27&type=profile&rnd=234) Posts: 349
![100](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![100](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![100](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![20](https://logicmastersindia.com//forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Country : India | Hashi -1 : Use the "No islands" rule throughout the grid - inspired by a comment from Prasanna that very few Hashi puzzles use this rule extensively
Hashi -2 : Masyu like chain which goes from top left to bottom right
Hashi -3 : Interaction of two 5's near the center
Hashi -4 : Interaction of the 4 and the 5's at the center. This one was my personal favorite for the entire set
Magnets 1 : Easy puzzle used to replace a harder magnets puzzle
Magnets 2 : Existence of half the grid size (8/2 =4) in one of the polarities forces a few bars to be magnets
Magnets 3 : Min max - A less loaded column surrounded by two heavily loaded columns.
Magnets 4 : Transfer of polarities across rows
Arrows 3: 3 in the center gives good starting point
Arrows 4: Interaction of two large numbers in the corners (4 and 5) along with the smaller numbers int he remaining two corners (2 and 3)
Anglers 2: Parity - Only one angler can reach the fish on bottom left as it has different parity compared to all other fish
Anglers 4: Reach ability of top left fish to an angler
Multi-anglers- Count of total number of anglers and how many anglers can reach each fish. |
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prasanna16391
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swaroop2011
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