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@ 2015-10-26 5:54 AM (#19679 - in reply to #19661) (#19679) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-10-26 5:54 AM

Rohan Rao - 2015-10-24 5:47 PM

Very nice set.

For the 6x6 No Even Neighbours, I directly filled the 5 remaining cells of the answer key (3rd row) without putting any other digit :-)


Thanks for your feedback. Will be more careful next time in selecting answer keys.
@ 2015-10-26 6:05 AM (#19680 - in reply to #19664) (#19680) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-10-26 6:05 AM

TiiT - 2015-10-24 8:47 PM

The main problem was the answer keys, because there were few sudokus where I filled less than half cells. It's perfect competition for the beginners, although I found the last puzzle very very uncomfortable to solve (quite hard). So, it matches the idea about not to put too hard puzzles there, just you need to use a bit more narrow solving paths or just work more with where to putt the andwer keys.


Thanks for your feedback. I hope you enjoyed the test overall.
Can you specify the Sudokus where you filled less than half cells ? . I hope they were all 6*6 size sudokus where this was possible. I like your idea of having bit more narrow solving paths, which will reduce this issue to some extent in such small grids. The challenge was, we are experimenting to have just 1 answer key for 6*6 size sudokus instead of 2 answer keys which we usually have. So I believe it is difficult to find just 1 row or 1 column which will be filled last in 6*6 size grids. But definitely we can improve the choice at least in some of them, for e.g. No Even Neighbor 6*6 as pointed by Rohan. Will try our best to improve upon that in upcoming tests.

Once again thanks for your suggestions.
@ 2015-10-26 7:51 AM (#19682 - in reply to #19640) (#19682) Top

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puneet87 posted @ 2015-10-26 7:51 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-10-26 7:57 AM (#19683 - in reply to #19676) (#19683) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-10-26 7:57 AM

gaurav.kjain - 2015-10-25 8:46 PM

Thanks.. Swaroop and Ashish, for such a nice puzzles set and nice solving paths.


Thanks gaurav. I am glad you enjoyed.
@ 2015-10-26 9:20 AM (#19684 - in reply to #19640) (#19684) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2015-10-26 9:20 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-10-26 11:08 AM (#19685 - in reply to #19640) (#19685) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-10-26 11:08 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-10-26 12:18 PM (#19686 - in reply to #19640) (#19686) Top

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carburra posted @ 2015-10-26 12:18 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-10-26 1:41 PM (#19687 - in reply to #19640) (#19687) Top

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akash.doulani posted @ 2015-10-26 1:41 PM

i submitted around 4 seconds before the stipulated time, but due to slow internet connection , it wasnt submitted. could the organisers look into the matter?
@ 2015-10-26 2:08 PM (#19688 - in reply to #19640) (#19688) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2015-10-26 2:08 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


A fun and excellent test!The pattern of digits and the theme in almost all the sudokus were really nice.
I greatly enjoyed solving No Even neighbours(12) which forced me to use some marking for odd/Even that I usually forget in sudokus.
The Odd Even Count was exciting too .I enjoyed spotting the triplet (3-4-5)in the middle Box.In addition,I remember doing something with the 6 which was really good too.Of the Classics, the 1-9 theme and O and E theme stood out.I never really thought about points as I completed all sudokus until the last digit was put even though the answer keys came earlier.Had my own share of problems in the form of catridge drying out and me replacing it in the middle of the test,printing the alignment page (which I was forced to do)but they never diminished my experience of the test in any way.

Regards share of creation,I can almost say which were created by whom :)
No Even /Odd Even count --Swaroop///
Odd Sum Pair/Quadro --Ashish

Thanks for the test!Good work.

@ 2015-10-26 2:28 PM (#19689 - in reply to #19640) (#19689) Top

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lenzo posted @ 2015-10-26 2:28 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-10-26 9:42 PM (#19691 - in reply to #19640) (#19691) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-10-26 9:42 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-10-26 10:02 PM (#19692 - in reply to #19688) (#19692) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-10-26 10:02 PM

kishy72 - 2015-10-26 2:08 PM

A fun and excellent test!The pattern of digits and the theme in almost all the sudokus were really nice.
I greatly enjoyed solving No Even neighbours(12) which forced me to use some marking for odd/Even that I usually forget in sudokus.
The Odd Even Count was exciting too .I enjoyed spotting the triplet (3-4-5)in the middle Box.In addition,I remember doing something with the 6 which was really good too.Of the Classics, the 1-9 theme and O and E theme stood out.I never really thought about points as I completed all sudokus until the last digit was put even though the answer keys came earlier.Had my own share of problems in the form of catridge drying out and me replacing it in the middle of the test,printing the alignment page (which I was forced to do)but they never diminished my experience of the test in any way.

Regards share of creation,I can almost say which were created by whom :)
No Even /Odd Even count --Swaroop///
Odd Sum Pair/Quadro --Ashish

Thanks for the test!Good work.



Thanks for your feedback. I am happy that you enjoyed.
Well I would wait till the test ends, to reveal who created which puzzle. Till then keep guessing ;)
@ 2015-10-26 10:56 PM (#19694 - in reply to #19640) (#19694) Top

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shera90 posted @ 2015-10-26 10:56 PM

In odd even count 6*6, I had put incorrect answer keys. But when I tried to correct it, the previous incorrect keys couldn't be deleted. Why ?
@ 2015-10-27 2:43 AM (#19697 - in reply to #19640) (#19697) Top

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B. Thananon posted @ 2015-10-27 2:43 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2015-10-27 5:37 AM (#19698 - in reply to #19640) (#19698) Top

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witty posted @ 2015-10-27 5:37 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-10-27 5:49 AM (#19699 - in reply to #19640) (#19699) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-10-27 5:49 AM

With no more participants at this time, this episode of Mahabharat is over.

Password removed from pdf and solutions appended.

Leader-board updated - http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/2015-16-ranks.asp
@ 2015-10-27 7:21 AM (#19701 - in reply to #19640) (#19701) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-10-27 7:21 AM

I would request all participants if possible, please do rate the puzzles. That will help us to improve upon upcoming tests.
Thank you for everyone for participating and your feedback and making this test a success.
Congrats to Top 3 Indians:
1) Rohan Rao
2) abth261 (Anil Thakur)
3) Rakesh Rai

Also Congrats to Top 3 overall:
1) jaku111
2) TiiT
3) Jan Zverina

Sorry for short reply. I will put detailed comment soon (hopefully by tomorrow).
@ 2015-10-27 9:57 AM (#19702 - in reply to #19640) (#19702) Top

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ashaash11ash posted @ 2015-10-27 9:57 AM

Thanks to all the participants who have given this test. thank you everyone for your feedback and for rating the test.
congrats to top 3 Indians and even to top 3 Overall. most of the puzzles were authored by Swaroop and i really thank him as he at all times was really helpful in understanding me.
i thank to Deb for giving me an opportunity to author an SM round. Nothing much to say but i again thanks everyone. :)
@ 2015-10-27 10:05 AM (#19703 - in reply to #19640) (#19703) Top

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ashaash11ash posted @ 2015-10-27 10:05 AM

solutions appended in puzzle booklet are IB solutions. please do change :)
@ 2015-10-27 11:47 AM (#19704 - in reply to #19703) (#19704) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-10-27 11:47 AM

ashaash11ash - 2015-10-27 10:05 AM

solutions appended in puzzle booklet are IB solutions. please do change :)


Changed.
@ 2015-10-27 2:46 PM (#19705 - in reply to #19704) (#19705) Top

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Fred76 posted @ 2015-10-27 2:46 PM

Thanks for the tournament !

Nice sudokus ! Appropriate level of difficulty for intermediate players I think.
It was nice to restart playing sudoku after WSC with this test.

About the answer keys and the choice of rows/columns: I didn't care that much about codes on this tournament, perhaps because since WSC I'm used to fill all cells in each sudoku I solve.
However I also noticed here and there that the choices of rows/columns for answer keys were not always optimal.
On a few 9*9 sudokus, the 2 rows/columns choosen covered only 3 regions (for example on 9*9 No Even Neighbours). While it can be a good choice for some sudokus, you have to be sure that these 3 regions are really the end of solving path of this sudoku. It's always a risky choice. On the 9*9 No even neighbours I found that it was not optimal.
@ 2015-10-29 3:10 AM (#19714 - in reply to #19705) (#19714) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-10-29 3:10 AM

Fred76 - 2015-10-27 2:46 PM

Thanks for the tournament !

Nice sudokus ! Appropriate level of difficulty for intermediate players I think.
It was nice to restart playing sudoku after WSC with this test.

About the answer keys and the choice of rows/columns: I didn't care that much about codes on this tournament, perhaps because since WSC I'm used to fill all cells in each sudoku I solve.
However I also noticed here and there that the choices of rows/columns for answer keys were not always optimal.
On a few 9*9 sudokus, the 2 rows/columns choosen covered only 3 regions (for example on 9*9 No Even Neighbours). While it can be a good choice for some sudokus, you have to be sure that these 3 regions are really the end of solving path of this sudoku. It's always a risky choice. On the 9*9 No even neighbours I found that it was not optimal.


Thanks Fred for feedback. Will be careful for next test.
@ 2015-10-29 3:23 AM (#19715 - in reply to #19640) (#19715) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-10-29 3:23 AM

Once again congrats to Top 3 Indians as well as Overall. Top 10 list are usual puzzlers with some notable new names of Anil Thakur (2nd) and Shaheer Rahman (10th). Also the performances by shankarsudhir, Mamta and Pranav are worth noting.
Stats:
Total 322 players participated with 299 players having nonzero score.
Standard 6x6 1st was submitted by most people. Top rated puzzles were 1) Odd-Even Count (6x6) - 9.79 2) Quadro (9x9) - 9.48 3) Classic (9x9 - 3rd) - 9.23
In the solution booklet you can find who created which Sudoku.
I would like to thank Deb for giving us opportunity to author this round. I would also like to thank Rishi for testing this round and his feedback. Thanks once again to all participants.

See you soon in upcoming Evergreen round of PR by Amit Sowani and then Math round of SM by Rohan Rao. Good luck for all remaining rounds.
@ 2015-10-29 3:23 AM (#19716 - in reply to #19688) (#19716) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-10-29 3:23 AM

kishy72 - 2015-10-26 2:08 PM


Regards share of creation,I can almost say which were created by whom :)
No Even /Odd Even count --Swaroop///
Odd Sum Pair/Quadro --Ashish

Thanks for the test!Good work.



You had 25% accuracy of guessing. ;)
@ 2015-10-29 5:30 PM (#19721 - in reply to #19640) (#19721) Top

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RameshLMI posted @ 2015-10-29 5:30 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


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