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@ 2014-06-02 10:40 AM (#15624 - in reply to #15187) (#15624) Top

Sagar.Ramachandran



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Sagar.Ramachandran posted @ 2014-06-02 10:40 AM

 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood all of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? Yes, some of them were easy. I would have liked more easy puzzles.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? Yes, some of them were familiar. I would have liked more familiar types.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


@ 2014-06-02 3:00 PM (#15626 - in reply to #15187) (#15626) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2014-06-02 3:00 PM

 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood all of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? No, there were really few easy puzzles.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? No, there were really few familiar types.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


@ 2014-06-02 3:31 PM (#15628 - in reply to #15187) (#15628) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2014-06-02 3:31 PM

 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood most of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? No, there were really few easy puzzles.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? Yes, some of them were familiar. I would have liked more familiar types.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


@ 2014-06-02 11:54 PM (#15631 - in reply to #15187) (#15631) Top

RALehrer



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RALehrer posted @ 2014-06-02 11:54 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2014-06-03 12:25 AM (#15632 - in reply to #15187) (#15632) Top

R.DARUWALA



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R.DARUWALA posted @ 2014-06-03 12:25 AM

 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? No, I was clueless even after reading the IB
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood only a few of them.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


@ 2014-06-03 12:37 AM (#15633 - in reply to #15632) (#15633) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-06-03 12:37 AM

R.DARUWALA - 2014-06-03 12:25 AM



Can you suggest ways for the IB to be clearer? We want to reach out better for newcomers and would love to see your thoughts on the matter. Also, please remember (for future contests) that the IB is typically released at least 3-4 days before an event, so if you are facing difficulty with understanding, you can ask about it in the forum here.
@ 2014-06-03 4:31 AM (#15636 - in reply to #15187) (#15636) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2014-06-03 4:31 AM

 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood all of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? Yes, there were many of them.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? Yes, there were many of them.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


@ 2014-06-03 6:02 AM (#15637 - in reply to #15187) (#15637) Top

achan1058



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achan1058 posted @ 2014-06-03 6:02 AM

That was completely disastrous. I got so tired ~1 hour in that I could not possibly stay awake and went to sleep......
@ 2014-06-03 1:16 PM (#15638 - in reply to #15187) (#15638) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2014-06-03 1:16 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2014-06-03 2:13 PM (#15639 - in reply to #15187) (#15639) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2014-06-03 2:13 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2014-06-03 2:24 PM (#15640 - in reply to #15187) (#15640) Top

B. Thananon



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B. Thananon posted @ 2014-06-03 2:24 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


@ 2014-06-03 4:09 PM (#15642 - in reply to #15187) (#15642) Top

Black Tiger



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Black Tiger posted @ 2014-06-03 4:09 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2014-06-03 4:22 PM (#15643 - in reply to #15187) (#15643) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2014-06-03 4:22 PM

 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood only a few of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? Yes, there were many of them.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? No, there were really few familiar types.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


@ 2014-06-03 6:08 PM (#15651 - in reply to #15187) (#15651) Top

rakesh_rai




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rakesh_rai posted @ 2014-06-03 6:08 PM

Congrats Rishi, Rohan and Gaurav !!!

Amit, Ritesh and Kishore were not too far behind either.

Edited by rakesh_rai 2014-06-03 6:11 PM
@ 2014-06-03 6:13 PM (#15652 - in reply to #15187) (#15652) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2014-06-03 6:13 PM

 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood all of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? Yes, there were many of them.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? Yes, there were many of them.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? May be


@ 2014-06-03 8:35 PM (#15653 - in reply to #15187) (#15653) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-06-03 8:35 PM

ISC 2014 is over, even for International Participants.

The result pages are all linked to here and here. Congrats once again to the Indian top 3 of Rishi, Rohan and Gaurav. Rishi has ended it on an impressive 2nd place Internationally.

The International top 3 were Kota, Rishi and Jaku111. Well played, all 3 of you.

ISC 2014 doubled as the Campionato italiano di sudoku. Congrats to the Italian winner, Giovanni Frugoli (Akuma21).

We hope all the new participants (and the regulars too of course!) enjoyed this contest. The solution booklet will be released tomorrow.

My general thoughts on picking the types for this contest was to categorize it in the following way -
Classics (1-4)
Smaller grids (8 6x6s)
A variation in presentation (Expanded)
Classic Lookalikes (Mirror, Irregular, Untouch)
Common variants (Diagonal, Odd)
Math variants (Killer, Arrow)
Relation variants (Thermo, Fortress)
Converse-Rule constraint variants (Consecutive, XV)
Uncommon variants (with "varying concepts" like distance (Search 9), heights (Inside Skyscraper) and positions (Descriptive Pairs))

Overall I feel ISC covered most of the broad categories appearing at a WSC and will surely prepare the winners well. At the same time I also feel it had enough classics to keep newcomers interested. I mainly followed Deb's format from last year which has proved to be well received for 2 consecutive years now. With minor changes, I think this is a good format to stick with. However, if the participants have any thoughts/feedback on this please feel free to let us know.
@ 2014-06-03 9:40 PM (#15654 - in reply to #15187) (#15654) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-06-03 9:40 PM

The individual scores of the Guess the Author game are attached.

greenhorn has the most correct guesses. Some entries are highlighted in yellow because these were just partial entries (only some Sudokus' authors were guessed). Bit surprised Bram is so low

The author details will be revealed soon.



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@ 2014-06-03 9:46 PM (#15655 - in reply to #15187) (#15655) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-06-03 9:46 PM

And now the Author details, with the number of guesses for each author. Some funny stats: No one guessed that the XV is Bastien's. Fred's Classic style seems to be close to Deb's for some of you. The most accurate ones (with 2 or more guesses than the next highest number for the puzzle) were 6x6 Sudokus, Irregular Sudoku, Odd Sudoku and Descriptive Pairs (I thought Inside Skyscrapers would be my obvious sweep but it seems that was unanimously voted as Nikola's puzzle).

Hope everyone enjoyed this little added game. Thanks for playing.





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@ 2014-06-03 9:49 PM (#15656 - in reply to #15187) (#15656) Top

cnarrikkattu



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cnarrikkattu posted @ 2014-06-03 9:49 PM

The scores at http://logicmastersindia.com/2014/ISC/score.asp are incomplete (no USA participants for example), you apparently need http://logicmastersindia.com/2014/ISC/score.asp?mode=complete to get full results.
@ 2014-06-03 9:54 PM (#15657 - in reply to #15656) (#15657) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-06-03 9:54 PM

cnarrikkattu - 2014-06-03 9:49 PM

The scores at http://logicmastersindia.com/2014/ISC/score.asp are incomplete (no USA participants for example), you apparently need http://logicmastersindia.com/2014/ISC/score.asp?mode=complete to get full results.


Just realized I forgot to link to the relevant comment in the forum in my summary above (added the link now), but this was mentioned before.
@ 2014-06-03 11:17 PM (#15658 - in reply to #15654) (#15658) Top

greenhorn



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greenhorn posted @ 2014-06-03 11:17 PM

prasanna16391 - 2014-06-03 9:40 PM

The individual scores of the Guess the Author game are attached.

greenhorn has the most correct guesses. Some entries are highlighted in yellow because these were just partial entries (only some Sudokus' authors were guessed). Bit surprised Bram is so low

The author details will be revealed soon.


Wow! 7 correct guesses are fine, but I was pretty sure that Deb is the author of Classic sudokus and Nikola author of the Inside skyscrapers. By the way, I have never seen Diagonal sudoku by Zuzana, that really surprised me ...
@ 2014-06-04 4:13 AM (#15659 - in reply to #15187) (#15659) Top

bob



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bob posted @ 2014-06-04 4:13 AM

 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood all of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? Yes, there were many of them.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? Yes, there were many of them.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


The Inside Skyscraper Sudoku should have been worth a million points, since it appears unsolvable. Seriously, though, I have been struggling with it for a couple hours and have only placed 6 or 7 numbers (some 1's 2's and a 3) but hit a solid impenetrable stone wall. The other variants were quite fun.
@ 2014-06-04 4:36 AM (#15660 - in reply to #15659) (#15660) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-06-04 4:36 AM

bob - 2014-06-04 4:13 AM

The Inside Skyscraper Sudoku should have been worth a million points, since it appears unsolvable. Seriously, though, I have been struggling with it for a couple hours and have only placed 6 or 7 numbers (some 1's 2's and a 3) but hit a solid impenetrable stone wall. The other variants were quite fun.


One of the test solvers missed an important corollary here that doesn't apply to normal skyscrapers. This is the fact that the number which is placed in the cell with the arrow cannot appear in the buildings it sees. So where in normal skyscraper a "7" clue can "see" a 3 at the start (going to 3-4-5-6-7-8-9), in Inside Skyscraper, this cannot happen since the 7 is taken away from the buildings and can at most see (3-4-5-6-8-9). Once I pointed this out to my test solver it all fell in (still a work-through, but not impossible at least). Maybe this tip helps you too?
@ 2014-06-04 5:45 AM (#15661 - in reply to #15187) (#15661) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-06-04 5:45 AM

Update - E-certificates sent

E-certificates have been sent to all official participants with non-zero scores. If anyone has not received an e-certificate, please let us know here.

Also, an email was sent to the respective top 10s of IPC and ISC requesting for their address in order to send their prize. The ones whose address was already given to the organizers (either as a prize claim or a certificate claim) weren't included in this mail, but for others who secured a top 10 Official ranking, this is another reminder about the same.

Tomorrow, all the participants who've ordered a hard copy of the certificate will be sent details to transfer the cost to LMI. Once transferred, the certificates will be sent to the given addresses.

Just for reference, here is a sample of the hard copy of the ISC certificate - https://logicmastersindia.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/2014_isc_rank_...

@ 2014-06-04 3:14 PM (#15666 - in reply to #15187) (#15666) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-06-04 3:14 PM

The Puzzle Booklet without password and with Solutions appended at the end is here.
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