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achan1058
Posts: 80
Country : Canada | I guessed wrong on #7 in such a way that produced the right answer, and only realized that when I was trying to do #8...... |
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swaroop2011
Posts: 668
 
Country : India | Thanks serkan, really beautiful puzzles.
Especially SG 5 and 6, Exploratory of Tetrominoes.
But unfortunately a bad test for me in Spiral Galaxies, I did continuously mistakes in all of them and at the end was confused to figure out rules for exploratory part and time got over. :(
After struggling little and fixing the rules it just took a minute each to solve each puzzle. :)
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macherlakumar
Posts: 123
Country : India | Thanks Serkan for excellent puzzles.
I enjoyed both tests, I felt that Tetrominoes is easier than Spiral Galaxies.
I figured the rules for Spiral Galaxies exploratory part in just 1 min but due to stress I convinced myself that I got the rules wrong and slept :D
Regards,
Ravi |
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bob
Posts: 59
Country : United States | bob posted @ 2014-03-20 3:30 AM How do I give up? The last two spiral galaxy puzzles are impossible to me; I am baffled by the example and I would just like to find out the rules. But the clock never runs out. Is there any way to forfeit? Seems rather difficult for a "beginner" contest. |
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swaroop2011
Posts: 668
Country : India | i don't think you can do that, just leave it like that and when test ends it will stop.
But i would like to suggest you that try thinking in different ways, i also got stuck there but once figure it out its very easy : )
Just fix some rules what you think from given example and then try to solve, if you are not feeling its unique then try to extend some rules. : )
bob - 2014-03-20 3:30 AM
How do I give up? The last two spiral galaxy puzzles are impossible to me; I am baffled by the example and I would just like to find out the rules. But the clock never runs out. Is there any way to forfeit? Seems rather difficult for a "beginner" contest. |
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bob
Posts: 59
Country : United States | bob posted @ 2014-03-20 5:46 AM I can't read the post because I can't solve the last two puzzles. I've been staring at the example quite some time at different sittings. I can't come up with any rule sets that would give unique solutions. Very frustrating. I guess I'll just wait. |
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kiwijam
Posts: 187
Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2014-03-20 6:05 AM Many thanks Serkan, challenging but not impossible. :)
(PS The Score link at the top of this page is referring to the 201304 test, not the 201403 test...) |
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swaroop2011
Posts: 668
Country : India | bob - 2014-03-20 5:46 AM
I can't read the post because I can't solve the last two puzzles. I've been staring at the example quite some time at different sittings. I can't come up with any rule sets that would give unique solutions. Very frustrating. I guess I'll just wait.
check your PM |
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bob
Posts: 59
Country : United States | bob posted @ 2014-03-21 2:10 AM In case anyone else has this problem--maintain your printer! In the experimental spiral galaxy puzzles, my black circles and grey circles were all sort of...greyish-black and indistinguishable. I use a cheap laser printer and the toner is running low. This made figuring out the rules impossible without explanation. Thank you Swaroop for the PM. I looked at the original pdf file and indeed, there are three different colors of circles not two. Time to go to the office supply store. |
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swaroop2011
Posts: 668
Country : India | May be in future to avoid this problems, a small warning or a line saying that puzzles might contain different color clues or something like that can be announced.
bob - 2014-03-21 2:10 AM
In case anyone else has this problem--maintain your printer! In the experimental spiral galaxy puzzles, my black circles and grey circles were all sort of...greyish-black and indistinguishable. I use a cheap laser printer and the toner is running low. This made figuring out the rules impossible without explanation. Thank you Swaroop for the PM. I looked at the original pdf file and indeed, there are three different colors of circles not two. Time to go to the office supply store. |
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Administrator
 
Country : India | Passwords removed from booklets. There is no plan to upload solutions this time. If anyone needs solutions, please post here. |
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Nola
Posts: 18
Country : Germany | Nola posted @ 2014-03-22 1:18 AM Hi, I could not figure out the rules for Exploratory Galaxy, which would lead to a unique solution. Could someone please explain to me? (Please real explanation, not only a hint, since I am already very frustrated with them. ;-) ) Before them, it took me only little time for the other six puzzles (at least for me), so I hoped to finish once in time, but then got stuck and ended frustrated. However, I was pleased with my tetromino results (even when not in time). Greetings, Nola |
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Bram28
Posts: 35
Country : The Netherlands | Bram28 posted @ 2014-03-22 2:08 AM Administrator - 2014-03-20 10:42 PM
Passwords removed from booklets. There is no plan to upload solutions this time. If anyone needs solutions, please post here.
So what was the rule in exploratory galaxies? I'm still stumped! |
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chaotic_iak
Posts: 241
Country : Indonesia | Black: Center of symmetry of a rectangle
White: Center of symmetry of a non-rectangle
Gray: Not center of symmetry (the shape itself can be not symmetric) |
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aldentea
Posts: 10
Country : Japan | I spent 90min. of Spiral Galaxies Exploratory.
At first, I found regions with a gray point had ONE extra cell.
It is my regret that I tried match-making subsequently...
Even though they may not be suited for Beginners' contests, they are nice surprising puzzles themselves.
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Semax
Posts: 10
Country : Germany | Semax posted @ 2014-03-22 12:39 PM I am also interested in the rules for Exploratory Spiral Galaxies.
@chaotik_iak: With your rules, the example has many solutions. For example, make the black and white regions as small as possible (each only 1 or two cells) and then you still have many ways to make grey regions. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | Semax - 2014-03-22 12:39 PM
I am also interested in the rules for Exploratory Spiral Galaxies.
@chaotik_iak: With your rules, the example has many solutions. For example, make the black and white regions as small as possible (each only 1 or two cells) and then you still have many ways to make grey regions.
You can't make a white region 1/2 cells because that'd make it a rectangle. I think a white region would have to be a minimum of 4 cells (S tetromino ) to follow the non-rectangle rule. |
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totoron8655
Posts: 3
Country : Japan | I need solutions.
I'm not good in both puzzles... |
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BTroisi
Posts: 7
Country : United States | BTroisi posted @ 2014-03-24 5:02 AM Are the correct solutions shown somewhere? I never succeeded in submitting a correct answer for SG #5 even tho' I can't see anything wrong with my solutions (I came up with ambiguity in UL corner).
thanks for hours of fun |
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swaroop2011
Posts: 668
Country : India | you can upload your solved solution here, so that we can see where you are going wrong : )
BTroisi - 2014-03-24 5:02 AM
Are the correct solutions shown somewhere? I never succeeded in submitting a correct answer for SG #5 even tho' I can't see anything wrong with my solutions (I came up with ambiguity in UL corner).
thanks for hours of fun |
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jiangty
Posts: 1
Country : United States | jiangty posted @ 2014-03-24 1:48 PM I'm really confused--what is the "Cat bonus"? I have no idea why I didn't receive it for Tetrominoes... |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | jiangty - 2014-03-24 1:48 PM
I'm really confused--what is the "Cat bonus"? I have no idea why I didn't receive it for Tetrominoes...
Cat Bonus is short for Category Bonus which is explained in the Instruction Booklet. There's some bug in the score page, and you are eligible for the bonus. We will look into it and rectify it as soon as possible. |
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bartunio
Posts: 6
Country : Poland | I would be grateful if you could see my "cat bonus" as well - solved all the tetrominos in time, so probably should get the full score for that? Best - Bartek |
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BTroisi
Posts: 7
Country : United States | BTroisi posted @ 2014-03-25 12:18 AM About Tetrominoes #5
I have these rows: K: LLTIIIIOO (alternatively TZZIIIIOO) L: ITTTIZZIL M: LLLTTTLL
Which seemed to have an answer of 2142 (or 1242) 131211 332
But neither answer was accepted. Tried a couple of times to see if I fat-fingered them.
Resolved MANY times but always came up with this answer.
Where have I gone wrong? |
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achan1058
Posts: 80
Country : Canada | Your first and third answers are wrong. The rule says each tetromino may contain at most 1 letter. With the first 2 answers you gave me, I cannot satisfy the L in R4C4. Without seeing a photo of your solution, I cannot comment further, but the error is probably the entire left hand side, pretty much the whole first 4 columns.
As a general rule of thumb, if you got more than 1 solution, both of them are almost certainly wrong, and the error is usually not in the ambiguity itself, but somewhere further back that gets you to this ambiguity in the first place. (Unless of course the error is that you missed part of the rules.)
Edited by achan1058 2014-03-25 12:55 AM
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