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@ 2014-03-20 5:46 AM (#14652 - in reply to #10788) (#14652) Top

bob



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bob posted @ 2014-03-20 5:46 AM

I can't read the post because I can't solve the last two puzzles. I've been staring at the example quite some time at different sittings. I can't come up with any rule sets that would give unique solutions. Very frustrating. I guess I'll just wait.
@ 2014-03-20 6:05 AM (#14653 - in reply to #10788) (#14653) Top

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kiwijam posted @ 2014-03-20 6:05 AM

Many thanks Serkan, challenging but not impossible. :)

(PS The Score link at the top of this page is referring to the 201304 test, not the 201403 test...)
@ 2014-03-20 6:34 AM (#14654 - in reply to #14652) (#14654) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2014-03-20 6:34 AM

bob - 2014-03-20 5:46 AM

I can't read the post because I can't solve the last two puzzles. I've been staring at the example quite some time at different sittings. I can't come up with any rule sets that would give unique solutions. Very frustrating. I guess I'll just wait.

check your PM
@ 2014-03-21 2:10 AM (#14658 - in reply to #10788) (#14658) Top

bob



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bob posted @ 2014-03-21 2:10 AM

In case anyone else has this problem--maintain your printer! In the experimental spiral galaxy puzzles, my black circles and grey circles were all sort of...greyish-black and indistinguishable. I use a cheap laser printer and the toner is running low. This made figuring out the rules impossible without explanation. Thank you Swaroop for the PM. I looked at the original pdf file and indeed, there are three different colors of circles not two. Time to go to the office supply store.
@ 2014-03-21 4:20 AM (#14659 - in reply to #14658) (#14659) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2014-03-21 4:20 AM

May be in future to avoid this problems, a small warning or a line saying that puzzles might contain different color clues or something like that can be announced.
bob - 2014-03-21 2:10 AM

In case anyone else has this problem--maintain your printer! In the experimental spiral galaxy puzzles, my black circles and grey circles were all sort of...greyish-black and indistinguishable. I use a cheap laser printer and the toner is running low. This made figuring out the rules impossible without explanation. Thank you Swaroop for the PM. I looked at the original pdf file and indeed, there are three different colors of circles not two. Time to go to the office supply store.
@ 2014-03-21 8:42 AM (#14660 - in reply to #14579) (#14660) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2014-03-21 8:42 AM

Passwords removed from booklets. There is no plan to upload solutions this time. If anyone needs solutions, please post here.
@ 2014-03-22 1:18 AM (#14664 - in reply to #10788) (#14664) Top

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Nola posted @ 2014-03-22 1:18 AM

Hi, I could not figure out the rules for Exploratory Galaxy, which would lead to a unique solution. Could someone please explain to me? (Please real explanation, not only a hint, since I am already very frustrated with them. ;-) ) Before them, it took me only little time for the other six puzzles (at least for me), so I hoped to finish once in time, but then got stuck and ended frustrated. However, I was pleased with my tetromino results (even when not in time). Greetings, Nola
@ 2014-03-22 2:08 AM (#14666 - in reply to #14660) (#14666) Top

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Bram28 posted @ 2014-03-22 2:08 AM

Administrator - 2014-03-20 10:42 PM

Passwords removed from booklets. There is no plan to upload solutions this time. If anyone needs solutions, please post here.


So what was the rule in exploratory galaxies? I'm still stumped!
@ 2014-03-22 6:54 AM (#14667 - in reply to #14666) (#14667) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2014-03-22 6:54 AM

Black: Center of symmetry of a rectangle
White: Center of symmetry of a non-rectangle
Gray: Not center of symmetry (the shape itself can be not symmetric)
@ 2014-03-22 9:43 AM (#14668 - in reply to #10788) (#14668) Top

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aldentea posted @ 2014-03-22 9:43 AM

I spent 90min. of Spiral Galaxies Exploratory.

At first, I found regions with a gray point had ONE extra cell.
It is my regret that I tried match-making subsequently...

Even though they may not be suited for Beginners' contests, they are nice surprising puzzles themselves.
@ 2014-03-22 12:39 PM (#14669 - in reply to #10788) (#14669) Top

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Semax posted @ 2014-03-22 12:39 PM

I am also interested in the rules for Exploratory Spiral Galaxies.

@chaotik_iak: With your rules, the example has many solutions. For example, make the black and white regions as small as possible (each only 1 or two cells) and then you still have many ways to make grey regions.
@ 2014-03-22 1:39 PM (#14670 - in reply to #14669) (#14670) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-03-22 1:39 PM

Semax - 2014-03-22 12:39 PM

I am also interested in the rules for Exploratory Spiral Galaxies.

@chaotik_iak: With your rules, the example has many solutions. For example, make the black and white regions as small as possible (each only 1 or two cells) and then you still have many ways to make grey regions.


You can't make a white region 1/2 cells because that'd make it a rectangle. I think a white region would have to be a minimum of 4 cells (S tetromino) to follow the non-rectangle rule.
@ 2014-03-23 5:31 PM (#14674 - in reply to #14660) (#14674) Top

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totoron8655 posted @ 2014-03-23 5:31 PM

I need solutions.

I'm not good in both puzzles...
@ 2014-03-24 5:02 AM (#14677 - in reply to #14579) (#14677) Top

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BTroisi posted @ 2014-03-24 5:02 AM

Are the correct solutions shown somewhere? I never succeeded in submitting a correct answer for SG #5 even tho' I can't see anything wrong with my solutions (I came up with ambiguity in UL corner).

thanks for hours of fun
@ 2014-03-24 6:58 AM (#14678 - in reply to #14677) (#14678) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2014-03-24 6:58 AM

you can upload your solved solution here, so that we can see where you are going wrong :)
BTroisi - 2014-03-24 5:02 AM

Are the correct solutions shown somewhere? I never succeeded in submitting a correct answer for SG #5 even tho' I can't see anything wrong with my solutions (I came up with ambiguity in UL corner).

thanks for hours of fun
@ 2014-03-24 1:48 PM (#14680 - in reply to #10788) (#14680) Top

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jiangty posted @ 2014-03-24 1:48 PM

I'm really confused--what is the "Cat bonus"? I have no idea why I didn't receive it for Tetrominoes...
@ 2014-03-24 2:15 PM (#14681 - in reply to #14680) (#14681) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-03-24 2:15 PM

jiangty - 2014-03-24 1:48 PM

I'm really confused--what is the "Cat bonus"? I have no idea why I didn't receive it for Tetrominoes...


Cat Bonus is short for Category Bonus which is explained in the Instruction Booklet. There's some bug in the score page, and you are eligible for the bonus. We will look into it and rectify it as soon as possible.
@ 2014-03-24 10:18 PM (#14684 - in reply to #10788) (#14684) Top

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bartunio posted @ 2014-03-24 10:18 PM

I would be grateful if you could see my "cat bonus" as well - solved all the tetrominos in time, so probably should get the full score for that? Best - Bartek
@ 2014-03-25 12:18 AM (#14685 - in reply to #10788) (#14685) Top

BTroisi



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BTroisi posted @ 2014-03-25 12:18 AM

About Tetrominoes #5
I have these rows: K: LLTIIIIOO (alternatively TZZIIIIOO) L: ITTTIZZIL M: LLLTTTLL
Which seemed to have an answer of 2142 (or 1242) 131211 332
But neither answer was accepted. Tried a couple of times to see if I fat-fingered them.
Resolved MANY times but always came up with this answer.
Where have I gone wrong?
@ 2014-03-25 12:41 AM (#14686 - in reply to #10788) (#14686) Top

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achan1058 posted @ 2014-03-25 12:41 AM

Your first and third answers are wrong. The rule says each tetromino may contain at most 1 letter. With the first 2 answers you gave me, I cannot satisfy the L in R4C4. Without seeing a photo of your solution, I cannot comment further, but the error is probably the entire left hand side, pretty much the whole first 4 columns.

As a general rule of thumb, if you got more than 1 solution, both of them are almost certainly wrong, and the error is usually not in the ambiguity itself, but somewhere further back that gets you to this ambiguity in the first place. (Unless of course the error is that you missed part of the rules.)

Edited by achan1058 2014-03-25 12:55 AM
@ 2014-03-25 5:18 AM (#14688 - in reply to #14681) (#14688) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2014-03-25 5:18 AM

prasanna16391 - 2014-03-24 2:15 PM

jiangty - 2014-03-24 1:48 PM

I'm really confused--what is the "Cat bonus"? I have no idea why I didn't receive it for Tetrominoes...


Cat Bonus is short for Category Bonus which is explained in the Instruction Booklet. There's some bug in the score page, and you are eligible for the bonus. We will look into it and rectify it as soon as possible.

bartunio - 2014-03-24 10:18 PM

I would be grateful if you could see my "cat bonus" as well - solved all the tetrominos in time, so probably should get the full score for that? Best - Bartek

Fixed.
@ 2014-03-26 12:48 PM (#14692 - in reply to #10788) (#14692) Top

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mathcrazy posted @ 2014-03-26 12:48 PM

I'm unable to view my Tetrominoes submissions
@ 2014-05-03 7:12 PM (#15173 - in reply to #10788) (#15173) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2014-05-03 7:12 PM

May Beginners' Puzzle Contest

Types
• Minesweeper• Yin-Yang
Dates : 8th - 13th May (including both dates)
Submission Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/BeginnersPuzzle/201405/
Puzzles by: Horvath Zoltan

@ 2014-05-03 7:24 PM (#15175 - in reply to #10788) (#15175) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2014-05-03 7:24 PM

The pdf files from Yin-Yang variations contest site are not accessible.
They can be downloaded from here and here. Thanks Andrey for sharing.
@ 2014-05-03 8:24 PM (#15176 - in reply to #10788) (#15176) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2014-05-03 8:24 PM

whats the password for the booklet of yin-yang variations contest ?
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