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FoxFireX
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 Country : United States | Ugh. Not pleased with my performance, but the puzzles were great. However, I did lose about 10 minutes on an error in the instructions for 12 (Spiral City). Instructions claim the numbers go from 1 to 32, but there are only 30 segments. My math on the two center rows just refused to work until I threw out the 31 and 32 segments. Probably could have figured out one or two other puzzles in the time, but it still would've been awful. :)
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debmohanty
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        Country : India | FoxFireX - 2013-09-07 9:05 AM
on an error in the instructions for 12 (Spiral City). Instructions claim the numbers go from 1 to 32, but there are only 30 segments. You are right. Just added a note in the Submission page about this typo. |
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auroux
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   Country : France | auroux posted @ 2013-09-07 12:23 PM The puzzles were indeed really really good -- one of my favorite recent tests. But I had terrible luck with timing, finishing the Sudokakuro just 5 seconds too late (of course it'd have taken another 10 seconds to copy down the answer key). Sigh. |
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kiwijam
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     Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2013-09-07 4:32 PM Great puzzles Richard, thank you! I'm glad they were easier than most of your portal ones.
One comment on the submission page: Is it possible to have the puzzle numbers (1-20) included as well as the names? It would be much faster to find the correct location to enter the answer, especially as some of the puzzles had similar names. |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-09-07 6:22 PM How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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xevs
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  Country : Japan | xevs posted @ 2013-09-07 8:52 PM How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many medium difficult puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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rob
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    Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2013-09-08 2:24 AM Looks like the spiral city construction was solvable without the loop part... I was quite confused when the form wanted the number of angles. :) |
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john_reid
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Country : United States | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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bskbri
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 Country : Turkey | bskbri posted @ 2013-09-08 6:12 AM How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-09-08 12:12 PM How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many medium difficult puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
A good test, but hard to prepare for. It was 16 unusual types, some with rather specific rules. The LMD practice material helped a little, but some of the LMD puzzles used subtly different rules from the test. Despite doing all of them, I still felt shaky going into the test. |
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Richard
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     Country : The Netherlands | Richard posted @ 2013-09-08 12:27 PM An LMI player - 2013-09-08 12:12 PM
A good test, but hard to prepare for. It was 16 unusual types, some with rather specific rules. The LMD practice material helped a little, but some of the LMD puzzles used subtly different rules from the test. Despite doing all of them, I still felt shaky going into the test.
I am not aware of subtly different rules, maybe apart from the Filled Loop. I think I didn't use the non-diagonal touching of pentos when I created the first puzzles of this type a few years ago.
For the other types I think the rules in the portal are the same as in the test. Please point out if not so.
When the test is over I will post some notes and considerations about the test and selection of puzzles. |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-09-08 7:04 PM How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Realshaggy
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   Country : Germany | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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yureklis
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     Country : Turkey | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Thanks a lot Richard. Your puzzles were lovely. Whole test was smooth for me except the Spiral City C. I forgot the loop thing, probably the reason is that I solved the puzzle as Spiral Battleships. Also I assumed that we must use all numbers from 1-32, I didn't count all segments of the city. So I experienced difficulty in the middle of the grid because of this. I erased, I repeated, but the result didn't change. But last ten minutes I remembered there was a loop : ) Then I did it. So I could be much better if I hadn't done this stupidity. Anyway, thanks a lot! |
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detuned
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   Country : United Kingdom | detuned posted @ 2013-09-08 10:25 PM What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Rubben
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 Country : Romania | Rubben posted @ 2013-09-08 11:11 PM How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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HuDu
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Country : Germany | HuDu posted @ 2013-09-09 12:49 AM How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-09-09 4:46 PM How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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tamz29
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   Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2013-09-09 11:54 PM Had no time to prepare and jumped right in.
I've made enough Capsules to know that a puzzle with nothing but pentominoes = hell to construct.
It must have taken you ages. I remember tweaking for hours to get pentomino-only Capsules.
I really like Blackout Domino. 5 stars!
I find Prime Domino a bit "un-domino". Once you take out the adjacent cell has to be equal rule, you're
left with a shopping list. I think it took longer keeping track of the pieces than actually solving the puzzle.
Even longer, with that answer format.
Lovely set of 20 puzzles. Thanks, Richard. |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-09-10 1:43 AM How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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kiwijam
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     Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2013-09-10 4:10 AM tamz29 - 2013-09-10 6:54 AM
I find Prime Domino a bit "un-domino". Once you take out the adjacent cell has to be equal rule, you're
left with a shopping list. I think it took longer keeping track of the pieces than actually solving the puzzle.
Even longer, with that answer format.
"Prime Domino" is actually based on the German (? ) puzzle type "Domino Hunt" (e.g. http://www.janko.at/Raetsel/Dominos/index.htm, also it was round 1 at 2012 WPC ), which is a much different sort of puzzle to the domino joining types.
It has its own rules that speed up solving. Quickly, the best ones are:
1 ): There are two ways that two dominoes can fill a 2x2 square. If both ways would use the same two dominoes (i.e. when a digit repeats on one of the two diagonals ) then there would not be a unique solution, and so the 2x2 square must be covered in another way.
e.g. If the top-left corner is:
13
36
There are two ways to draw a 1-3 domino and a 3-6 domino in these 4 cells, therefore if we expect there is a unique solution then neither can be used - the 6-domino must go down or right. Draw in two edges between the 6 and the 3s.
2 ) If you locate a (e.g. ) 4-5 domino, then you can draw lines between all other 4-5 pairs. For uniqueness reasons, this also works for blanks. If you find a 2-blank domino, then you can rule out all other 2-blanks (as long as they have the same grey/not-grey status ), even before you know what the blank will contain.
If anyone is interested, I also wrote down some ideas and diagrams for how to solve three of the other types in the attached apreadsheet:
Regional Yajilin
Blackout Domino
Domino Loop Edited by kiwijam 2013-09-10 4:12 AM
Attachments ---------------- DTGT - LMI Sep 2013 Theory.xls (42KB - 9 downloads) |
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Para
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   Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2013-09-10 5:46 AM
I've made enough Capsules to know that a puzzle with nothing but pentominoes = hell to construct.
It must have taken you ages. I remember tweaking for hours to get pentomino-only Capsules.
I thought Capsules puzzles always had all pentomino regions. At least the ones I've seen and made always do. Maybe I've just seen many of Richard's.
Edited by Para 2013-09-10 5:47 AM
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Administrator
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      Country : India | Password removed from puzzle booklet. |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-09-10 10:51 AM How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Too few pages / too small grids | |
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