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@ 2013-08-15 3:10 AM (#12323 - in reply to #12319) (#12323) Top

swaroop2011




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swaroop2011 posted @ 2013-08-15 3:10 AM

yureklis - 2013-08-15 12:48 AM

swaroop2011

In Tapa Borderline,
if there are two clues on border then is it necessary that both should go in either of 1 cell or is it possible that each clue go in one cell each ?


Both should go in one cell. Multiple digits are considered as a whole "clue" and they move together.


ok thanks :)
@ 2013-08-15 9:07 AM (#12326 - in reply to #12322) (#12326) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-15 9:07 AM

yureklis - 2013-08-15 1:19 AM


Actually, before publising IB, I read the instructions, when I got the "touch" in the rules of Tapa Loop, I thought it is not necessary. Because the loop in fact can touch itself. But this "touch" is not that "touch". Tapa Loop "touch" means loop cannot pass through in any cell twice.


If that is the case, instead of "cross or touch", "cross or overlap" is probably a more common description as used in other loop types.
@ 2013-08-15 12:22 PM (#12329 - in reply to #12247) (#12329) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2013-08-15 12:22 PM

Obligatory practice puzzle for Neanderthal Tapa because this post doesn't have any.
@ 2013-08-16 12:03 AM (#12336 - in reply to #12329) (#12336) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-16 12:03 AM

"Fresh" Practice Puzzle from me as well, Tapa [Diagonal Neighbors].
@ 2013-08-16 8:34 PM (#12342 - in reply to #12247) (#12342) Top

chaotic_iak




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chaotic_iak posted @ 2013-08-16 8:34 PM

"All puzzle points will be announced in Friday." Do we get to know it soon?
@ 2013-08-16 8:39 PM (#12343 - in reply to #12342) (#12343) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2013-08-16 8:39 PM

chaotic_iak - 2013-08-16 8:34 PM

"All puzzle points will be announced in Friday." Do we get to know it soon?


Probably 2-3 hours later
@ 2013-08-17 1:47 AM (#12346 - in reply to #12247) (#12346) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-08-17 1:47 AM

PuzzlePoints
1. Tapa LOGIC120
2a. Neanderthal38
2b. Neanderthal89
3. Tapa Islands108
4. Make Room for Pentapa69
5a. Pata39
5b. Pata117
6. Tapa Borderline42
7a. Tapa Loop45
7b. Tapa Loop57
8a. Tapa [Diagonal Neighbors]60
8b. Tapa [Diagonal Neighbors]81
9. Tapa Hamle99
10. No Squares Tapa36

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@ 2013-08-17 2:06 AM (#12347 - in reply to #12346) (#12347) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-08-17 2:06 AM

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@ 2013-08-17 6:19 AM (#12348 - in reply to #12247) (#12348) Top

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RALehrer posted @ 2013-08-17 6:19 AM

For Tapa islands, may the islands touch each other diagonally?
@ 2013-08-17 7:18 AM (#12349 - in reply to #12348) (#12349) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2013-08-17 7:18 AM

RALehrer - 2013-08-17 6:19 AM

For Tapa islands, may the islands touch each other diagonally?


Yes, islands can touch diagonally.
@ 2013-08-17 7:39 AM (#12350 - in reply to #12247) (#12350) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2013-08-17 7:39 AM

One minor note:

For TAPA LOGIC; the current puzzle will have different letter set
@ 2013-08-17 3:15 PM (#12352 - in reply to #12247) (#12352) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-08-17 3:15 PM

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@ 2013-08-18 8:26 AM (#12358 - in reply to #12247) (#12358) Top

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Para posted @ 2013-08-18 8:26 AM

Stupid cell. Why'd I colour you? And why exactly there? Thanks for the puzzles Serkan. I had fun, except for a horrible false start on the first Pata.

ps. Palmer, dial it back a little.
@ 2013-08-18 10:13 AM (#12359 - in reply to #12247) (#12359) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2013-08-18 10:13 AM

One question on Tapa Islands
Instructions says that "each separate area MAY contain at most one clue cell". Does this mean that there may be some Island area without any clue cell?
@ 2013-08-18 2:15 PM (#12361 - in reply to #12359) (#12361) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2013-08-18 2:15 PM

yureklis - 2013-08-18 11:00 AM

rajeshk - 2013-08-18 10:13 AM

One question on Tapa Islands
Instructions says that "each separate area MAY contain at most one clue cell". Does this mean that there may be some Island area without any clue cell?


No, each island should have one clue cell. MAY should be changed to Should in the instruction.


Thanks for quickly clarifying this.
@ 2013-08-18 7:14 PM (#12362 - in reply to #12361) (#12362) Top

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ksun48 posted @ 2013-08-18 7:14 PM

Wait, I thought islands could have no clue cell? When I solved it logically, I got at least one island that had no clue cell in it?
@ 2013-08-18 8:12 PM (#12363 - in reply to #12359) (#12363) Top

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yureklis posted @ 2013-08-18 8:12 PM

rajeshk
One question on Tapa Islands
Instructions says that "each separate area MAY contain at most one clue cell". Does this mean that there may be some Island area without any clue cell?


I'm sorry, I made a terrible mistake when replying to this. I was very sleepy and confused in the morning.

Your assumption is right, there may be islands without clues. Sorry again.
@ 2013-08-18 9:24 PM (#12364 - in reply to #12363) (#12364) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2013-08-18 9:24 PM

yureklis - 2013-08-18 8:12 PM

rajeshk
One question on Tapa Islands
Instructions says that "each separate area MAY contain at most one clue cell". Does this mean that there may be some Island area without any clue cell?


I'm sorry, I made a terrible mistake when replying to this. I was very sleepy and confused in the morning.

Your assumption is right, there may be islands without clues. Sorry again.


In that case does the example has multiple solutions e.g. if R1C2 is blackened and R1C6, R2C6 are made white (part of Island)?
@ 2013-08-18 9:47 PM (#12365 - in reply to #12364) (#12365) Top

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MellowMelon posted @ 2013-08-18 9:47 PM

Don't forget the single numbers are both Tapa clues and island clues. You've broken the 6 as a Tapa clue with that tweak.
@ 2013-08-18 11:35 PM (#12367 - in reply to #12365) (#12367) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2013-08-18 11:35 PM

MellowMelon - 2013-08-18 9:47 PM

Don't forget the single numbers are both Tapa clues and island clues. You've broken the 6 as a Tapa clue with that tweak.


Yes, I overlooked that one. Thanks for explaining it.
@ 2013-08-20 2:18 AM (#12380 - in reply to #12367) (#12380) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-20 2:18 AM

Argh, I actually solved the second Tapa loop in record time intuitively, but just couldn't make it to submit! Wonderful puzzles. Beautiful usage of the Diagonal Neighbors constraints. Pleasantly surprised by my ranking.
@ 2013-08-20 3:15 AM (#12381 - in reply to #12247) (#12381) Top

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zachpuzzle posted @ 2013-08-20 3:15 AM

What did I do wrong... I am probably being really stupid right now...



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@ 2013-08-20 3:26 AM (#12382 - in reply to #12381) (#12382) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-20 3:26 AM

zachpuzzle - 2013-08-20 3:15 AM

What did I do wrong... I am probably being really stupid right now...


Around the middle left. The "+" of the +11 clue to the extreme left is where you can change things. Think vertical
@ 2013-08-20 10:36 AM (#12385 - in reply to #12247) (#12385) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-08-20 10:36 AM

TVC XIII is now over and score page is now public.
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@ 2013-08-21 12:54 AM (#12388 - in reply to #12247) (#12388) Top

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Puzlifouk posted @ 2013-08-21 12:54 AM

Hi. I am a beginner in puzzles, but I usually manage to take some points... This time I was very disappointed : 0 pts :(

Now I have solved most of the puzzles. But I have a problem with the Tapa Loops. "The loop cannot touch or cross itself." For me, this is not true. For example, in the first puzzle (7a) the loop touch itself 3 times : at the bottom (left) of the 6 et the 7 clues.

This point, and the fact that letters of the "TAPA LOGIC" were not ACGILOPT as announced, but E ? P ? M ? ("PALMER MEBANE" !) were enough to make me doubt, to disturb me, and finally ... 0 pts !
Of course, with some experience, it would have been different. But when you panic because you see the time go... The problem with a wrong rule is : when you finally observe it is not possible to solve the puzzle, you don't know what is the rule which is questionable...
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