@ 2013-08-15 12:22 PM (#12329 - in reply to #12247) (#12329) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 241 Country : Indonesia | chaotic_iak posted @ 2013-08-15 12:22 PM Obligatory practice puzzle for Neanderthal Tapa because this post doesn't have any. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-16 12:03 AM (#12336 - in reply to #12329) (#12336) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-16 12:03 AM "Fresh" Practice Puzzle from me as well, Tapa [Diagonal Neighbors]. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-16 8:34 PM (#12342 - in reply to #12247) (#12342) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 241 Country : Indonesia | chaotic_iak posted @ 2013-08-16 8:34 PM "All puzzle points will be announced in Friday." Do we get to know it soon? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-16 8:39 PM (#12343 - in reply to #12342) (#12343) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 183 Country : Turkey | yureklis posted @ 2013-08-16 8:39 PM chaotic_iak - 2013-08-16 8:34 PM "All puzzle points will be announced in Friday." Do we get to know it soon? Probably 2-3 hours later | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-17 1:47 AM (#12346 - in reply to #12247) (#12346) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2013-08-17 1:47 AM
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@ 2013-08-17 2:06 AM (#12347 - in reply to #12346) (#12347) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2013-08-17 2:06 AM TVC Start timePlease note TVC will start (and end) 3 hours later than usual LMI tests timings. Please check the submission page for exact timing in your timezone. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-17 6:19 AM (#12348 - in reply to #12247) (#12348) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 31 Country : United States | RALehrer posted @ 2013-08-17 6:19 AM For Tapa islands, may the islands touch each other diagonally? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-17 7:18 AM (#12349 - in reply to #12348) (#12349) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 183 Country : Turkey | yureklis posted @ 2013-08-17 7:18 AM RALehrer - 2013-08-17 6:19 AM For Tapa islands, may the islands touch each other diagonally? Yes, islands can touch diagonally. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-17 7:39 AM (#12350 - in reply to #12247) (#12350) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 183 Country : Turkey | yureklis posted @ 2013-08-17 7:39 AM One minor note: For TAPA LOGIC; the current puzzle will have different letter set | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-17 3:15 PM (#12352 - in reply to #12247) (#12352) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2013-08-17 3:15 PM Temporary score page : http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/XIII/score.asp (Feedback page is not enabled yet) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-18 8:26 AM (#12358 - in reply to #12247) (#12358) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 315 Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2013-08-18 8:26 AM Stupid cell. Why'd I colour you? And why exactly there? Thanks for the puzzles Serkan. I had fun, except for a horrible false start on the first Pata. ps. Palmer, dial it back a little. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-18 10:13 AM (#12359 - in reply to #12247) (#12359) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 542 Country : India | rajeshk posted @ 2013-08-18 10:13 AM One question on Tapa Islands Instructions says that "each separate area MAY contain at most one clue cell". Does this mean that there may be some Island area without any clue cell? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-18 2:15 PM (#12361 - in reply to #12359) (#12361) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 542 Country : India | rajeshk posted @ 2013-08-18 2:15 PM yureklis - 2013-08-18 11:00 AM rajeshk - 2013-08-18 10:13 AM One question on Tapa Islands Instructions says that "each separate area MAY contain at most one clue cell". Does this mean that there may be some Island area without any clue cell? No, each island should have one clue cell. MAY should be changed to Should in the instruction. Thanks for quickly clarifying this. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-18 7:14 PM (#12362 - in reply to #12361) (#12362) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 29 Country : Canada | ksun48 posted @ 2013-08-18 7:14 PM Wait, I thought islands could have no clue cell? When I solved it logically, I got at least one island that had no clue cell in it? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-18 8:12 PM (#12363 - in reply to #12359) (#12363) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 183 Country : Turkey | yureklis posted @ 2013-08-18 8:12 PM rajeshk One question on Tapa Islands Instructions says that "each separate area MAY contain at most one clue cell". Does this mean that there may be some Island area without any clue cell? I'm sorry, I made a terrible mistake when replying to this. I was very sleepy and confused in the morning. Your assumption is right, there may be islands without clues. Sorry again. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-18 9:24 PM (#12364 - in reply to #12363) (#12364) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 542 Country : India | rajeshk posted @ 2013-08-18 9:24 PM yureklis - 2013-08-18 8:12 PM rajeshk One question on Tapa Islands Instructions says that "each separate area MAY contain at most one clue cell". Does this mean that there may be some Island area without any clue cell? I'm sorry, I made a terrible mistake when replying to this. I was very sleepy and confused in the morning. Your assumption is right, there may be islands without clues. Sorry again. In that case does the example has multiple solutions e.g. if R1C2 is blackened and R1C6, R2C6 are made white (part of Island)? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-18 9:47 PM (#12365 - in reply to #12364) (#12365) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Country : United States | MellowMelon posted @ 2013-08-18 9:47 PM Don't forget the single numbers are both Tapa clues and island clues. You've broken the 6 as a Tapa clue with that tweak. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-18 11:35 PM (#12367 - in reply to #12365) (#12367) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 542 Country : India | rajeshk posted @ 2013-08-18 11:35 PM MellowMelon - 2013-08-18 9:47 PM Don't forget the single numbers are both Tapa clues and island clues. You've broken the 6 as a Tapa clue with that tweak. Yes, I overlooked that one. Thanks for explaining it. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-20 2:18 AM (#12380 - in reply to #12367) (#12380) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-20 2:18 AM Argh, I actually solved the second Tapa loop in record time intuitively, but just couldn't make it to submit! Wonderful puzzles. Beautiful usage of the Diagonal Neighbors constraints. Pleasantly surprised by my ranking. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-20 3:15 AM (#12381 - in reply to #12247) (#12381) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 14 Country : United States | zachpuzzle posted @ 2013-08-20 3:15 AM What did I do wrong... I am probably being really stupid right now... (arghh.PNG) Attachments ---------------- arghh.PNG (20KB - 0 downloads) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-20 3:26 AM (#12382 - in reply to #12381) (#12382) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-20 3:26 AM zachpuzzle - 2013-08-20 3:15 AM What did I do wrong... I am probably being really stupid right now... Around the middle left. The "+" of the +11 clue to the extreme left is where you can change things. Think vertical | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-20 10:36 AM (#12385 - in reply to #12247) (#12385) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2013-08-20 10:36 AM | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-21 12:54 AM (#12388 - in reply to #12247) (#12388) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 67 Country : France | Puzlifouk posted @ 2013-08-21 12:54 AM Hi. I am a beginner in puzzles, but I usually manage to take some points... This time I was very disappointed : 0 pts :( Now I have solved most of the puzzles. But I have a problem with the Tapa Loops. "The loop cannot touch or cross itself." For me, this is not true. For example, in the first puzzle (7a) the loop touch itself 3 times : at the bottom (left) of the 6 et the 7 clues. This point, and the fact that letters of the "TAPA LOGIC" were not ACGILOPT as announced, but E ? P ? M ? ("PALMER MEBANE" !) were enough to make me doubt, to disturb me, and finally ... 0 pts ! Of course, with some experience, it would have been different. But when you panic because you see the time go... The problem with a wrong rule is : when you finally observe it is not possible to solve the puzzle, you don't know what is the rule which is questionable... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-21 2:27 AM (#12389 - in reply to #12388) (#12389) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 183 Country : Turkey | yureklis posted @ 2013-08-21 2:27 AM Puzlifouk - 2013-08-21 12:54 AM Hi. I am a beginner in puzzles, but I usually manage to take some points... This time I was very disappointed : 0 pts :( Now I have solved most of the puzzles. But I have a problem with the Tapa Loops. "The loop cannot touch or cross itself." For me, this is not true. For example, in the first puzzle (7a) the loop touch itself 3 times : at the bottom (left) of the 6 et the 7 clues. This point, and the fact that letters of the "TAPA LOGIC" were not ACGILOPT as announced, but E ? P ? M ? ("PALMER MEBANE" !) were enough to make me doubt, to disturb me, and finally ... 0 pts ! Of course, with some experience, it would have been different. But when you panic because you see the time go... The problem with a wrong rule is : when you finally observe it is not possible to solve the puzzle, you don't know what is the rule which is questionable... You are mentioning two things: Tapa Loop touching and TAPA LOGIC letters. So we mentioned both of them in this thread. If you had read previous comments, you could see clearly them. So there is no "wrong rule". If there was, no one could solve those puzzles. There were some deficient explanations, but they were compensated with this thread. I'm sorry for your result. I'll focus on the instructions to make them clearer in next TVC's. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ 2013-08-21 3:22 AM (#12390 - in reply to #12247) (#12390) Top | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 67 Country : France | Puzlifouk posted @ 2013-08-21 3:22 AM OK, yureklis, thanks for the answer. I wasn't used to systematically read the threads before a contest, but I note this is necessary. Afterwards, I took a real pleasure to solve your puzzles. Congratulations, and thanks for your focus on the next instructions :) |