@ 2013-08-08 2:50 PM (#12119 - in reply to #12117) (#12119) Top | |
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2013-08-08 2:50 PM Dileep Singh - 2013-08-08 2:47 PM Please post the solution of smashed sums sudoku given in the instruction booklet. (from http://yureklis.wordpress.com/2012/06/23/smashed-sums-sudoku/ ) |
@ 2013-08-08 4:24 PM (#12120 - in reply to #11781) (#12120) Top | |
Posts: 16 Country : India | Dileep Singh posted @ 2013-08-08 4:24 PM thanks :) sry i didn`t see the link, given below the puzzle in the IB. |
@ 2013-08-08 5:29 PM (#12121 - in reply to #11781) (#12121) Top | |
Posts: 1 Country : India | nemmara posted @ 2013-08-08 5:29 PM pls give adetailed procedure of online solving as i have no printer. |
@ 2013-08-08 7:03 PM (#12122 - in reply to #12121) (#12122) Top | |
Posts: 774 Country : India | rakesh_rai posted @ 2013-08-08 7:03 PM nemmara - 2013-08-08 5:29 PM pls give adetailed procedure of online solving as i have no printer. Please go through the FAQ. If you still have questions, please ask them here. |
@ 2013-08-09 12:43 AM (#12126 - in reply to #12122) (#12126) Top | |
Posts: 175 Country : India | Organisers posted @ 2013-08-09 12:43 AM Submission page activatedSubmission page is now activated. Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/ISC/ New players should check the submission page and see how it works. Players planning to solve online (i.e. without printer) should practice and get used to LMI solving interface. Some selected examples are available now to be solved online. Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/ISC/?online=1 |
@ 2013-08-09 12:49 AM (#12127 - in reply to #12097) (#12127) Top | |
Posts: 175 Country : India | Organisers posted @ 2013-08-09 12:49 AM prasanna16391 - 2013-08-05 7:06 PM It will be exactly same layout. The organisers have decided not to throw surprises after the IPC. 2 things - In overlapping Sudoku - Do we assume that the overlap will be "clean" like the IB example, or is it possible that it will cut into boxes? (e.g. I think the one at the WSC in 2012 had just 2 rows/columns that weren't overlapping, instead of 3 as in the example) prasanna16391 - 2013-08-05 7:06 PM Answer key for Overlapping Sudoku can be 9 digits or 12 digits. Answer keys - Again, in Overlapping Sudoku, I assume that the non-overlap parts will also need to be entered, making the key possibly longer than 9 digits? Also, in Smashed Sums Sudoku, how should the black/blank cells be denoted in the key? Smashed Sums Sudoku : Enter X for black cells, although you will also be awarded points if you enter anything like 0 or - |
@ 2013-08-09 11:48 AM (#12131 - in reply to #11781) (#12131) Top | |
Posts: 16 Country : India | Dileep Singh posted @ 2013-08-09 11:48 AM There is no option to mark 7 in smashed sums sudoku. instead there are two options to mark X and . which i think both to mark blank cells. Please check it. |
@ 2013-08-09 11:55 AM (#12133 - in reply to #12131) (#12133) Top | |
Posts: 175 Country : India | Organisers posted @ 2013-08-09 11:55 AM Dileep Singh - 2013-08-09 11:48 AM There is no option to mark 7 in smashed sums sudoku. instead there are two options to mark X and . which i think both to mark blank cells. Please check it. Fixed. |
@ 2013-08-09 12:13 PM (#12134 - in reply to #12131) (#12134) Top | |
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-09 12:13 PM Dileep Singh - 2013-08-09 11:48 AM instead there are two options to mark X and . I think this is there for a reason. You can mark black cells with X and mark a . for where you think a number should be (as in, not black) and that marking will certainly help in solving this one. |
@ 2013-08-09 2:26 PM (#12135 - in reply to #11781) (#12135) Top | |
Posts: 16 Country : India | Dileep Singh posted @ 2013-08-09 2:26 PM Ohh..i got it. How to approach a Greater Than Consecutive Sudoku? |
@ 2013-08-09 2:31 PM (#12136 - in reply to #12135) (#12136) Top | |
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-09 2:31 PM Dileep Singh - 2013-08-09 2:26 PM Ohh..i got it. How to approach a Greater Than Consecutive Sudoku? Its important in general to remember the converse rule. Wherever the sign isn't there, treat it like a non-consecutive Sudoku. |
@ 2013-08-09 2:39 PM (#12137 - in reply to #11781) (#12137) Top | |
Posts: 16 Country : India | Dileep Singh posted @ 2013-08-09 2:39 PM Thanks PS..:) |
@ 2013-08-09 2:49 PM (#12138 - in reply to #12136) (#12138) Top | |
Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2013-08-09 2:49 PM prasanna16391's 500th post Congratulations on your blue star |
@ 2013-08-09 3:17 PM (#12139 - in reply to #12138) (#12139) Top | |
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-09 3:17 PM debmohanty - 2013-08-09 2:49 PM Congratulations on your blue star Thanks I just checked the submission page. There seem to be points assigned to each Sudoku there. Since these aren't updated into the IB, I assume these aren't the final/official points distribution? |
@ 2013-08-09 3:49 PM (#12140 - in reply to #11781) (#12140) Top | |
Posts: 12 Country : India | deepika m posted @ 2013-08-09 3:49 PM what is sudo-kurve?not getting it. |
@ 2013-08-09 4:11 PM (#12141 - in reply to #12140) (#12141) Top | |
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-09 4:11 PM deepika m - 2013-08-09 3:49 PM what is sudo-kurve?not getting it. There are 9 distinct digits in each 3 groups of 3 cells that are connected by gray lines. Example of this - The first row of the top left box, the 3rd column of the middle box and the first row of the bottom right box are connected by a bending gray line, and so there need to be all digits from 1-9 in those 9 cells. |
@ 2013-08-09 4:16 PM (#12142 - in reply to #12140) (#12142) Top | |
Posts: 123 Country : India | macherlakumar posted @ 2013-08-09 4:16 PM deepika m - 2013-08-09 3:49 PM what is sudo-kurve?not getting it. This might help you in understanding. (Sudo-Kurve.png) Attachments ---------------- Sudo-Kurve.png (25KB - 6 downloads) |
@ 2013-08-09 4:33 PM (#12143 - in reply to #12142) (#12143) Top | |
Posts: 460 Country : India | purifire posted @ 2013-08-09 4:33 PM Good demo macherla :) rishi |
@ 2013-08-09 4:41 PM (#12144 - in reply to #12142) (#12144) Top | |
Posts: 12 Country : India | deepika m posted @ 2013-08-09 4:41 PM still not getting it.my doubt is whether it's a 9x9 sudoku or not. |
@ 2013-08-09 5:17 PM (#12145 - in reply to #12144) (#12145) Top | |
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-09 5:17 PM deepika m - 2013-08-09 4:41 PM still not getting it.my doubt is whether it's a 9x9 sudoku or not. I suppose it is more of a free-form type but the range will always be 1-9 as in the example. The example has just 3 boxes, but it has in all 6 different sets of 1-9 as Ravi pointed out. If you google Sudo-kurve you'll see many other possible layouts, the base theory in all being that there are such sets of 1-9 formed by the connecting gray lines. |
@ 2013-08-09 5:37 PM (#12146 - in reply to #12145) (#12146) Top | |
Posts: 419 Country : India | kishy72 posted @ 2013-08-09 5:37 PM Hi! In smashed sums sudoku,can the shaded cells be orthogonally adjacent?It is not explicitly stated in the rules that they can't be.So i assume they might be when a sum is not given?!Also in the example puzzle i dont see that case happening as all row and column sums have been given already/// |
@ 2013-08-09 5:48 PM (#12147 - in reply to #12146) (#12147) Top | |
Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2013-08-09 5:48 PM kishy72 - 2013-08-09 5:37 PM Firstly, unlike the example, there will be some rows or columns without any outside clue in the actual puzzle. Hi! In smashed sums sudoku,can the shaded cells be orthogonally adjacent?It is not explicitly stated in the rules that they can't be.So i assume they might be when a sum is not given?!Also in the example puzzle i dont see that case happening as all row and column sums have been given already/// If there is no clue, it just means there is no restriction on the shaded cells in that row / column. They could be adjacent or not be adjacent, in that row / column. |
@ 2013-08-09 5:54 PM (#12148 - in reply to #12144) (#12148) Top | |
Posts: 460 Country : India | purifire posted @ 2013-08-09 5:54 PM deepika m - 2013-08-09 4:41 PM still not getting it.my doubt is whether it's a 9x9 sudoku or not. Deepika, not all sudokus need to be 9x9. There are so many variants which do not conform to this design. For example, Isosudoku, Snowflake sudoku. The only constraint we need to remember is that the digits do not repeat along the path denoted by the grey lines. Rishi |
@ 2013-08-10 5:58 AM (#12159 - in reply to #11781) (#12159) Top | |
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2013-08-10 5:58 AM Points table publishedThe Instructions Booklet now has the points table (Page 3) Other additions in Instructions Booklet 1) Bonus, Tie Breaker (Page 3) 2) Smashed Sums Sudoku - X should be entered for blacken cells (Page 11) 3) Solutions (Pages 14 - 16) Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/ISC/ |
@ 2013-08-10 2:17 PM (#12161 - in reply to #11781) (#12161) Top | |
Posts: 542 Country : India | rajeshk posted @ 2013-08-10 2:17 PM One question related to 6x6 Sudoku point distribution. Will the 100 points given only when all the 6x6 Sudoku solved correctly or each given mini Sudoku will have some points assigned to it? |