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@ 2013-07-17 1:16 PM (#11789 - in reply to #11788) (#11789) Top

rvarun



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rvarun posted @ 2013-07-17 1:16 PM

dp_94 - 2013-07-17 1:06 PM

is the event will be online


Hi

There are two events this time.

1. Times Sudoku Championship. This is an offline event held in four cities. The Team to represent India will be selected from this event with sponsorship from ToI.

2. Indian Sudoku Championship. This is an online event on August 10 and is open to all. This is to select the official Indian Sudoku Champion.

Edited by rvarun 2013-07-17 1:18 PM
@ 2013-07-17 2:00 PM (#11790 - in reply to #11781) (#11790) Top

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devarajand posted @ 2013-07-17 2:00 PM

Good. This will give a fair chance to every one all over India. Conduct online solvable event (No printing and paper solving) with exact 2 or 2.5hr duration. Ensure everyone solve on terminal only.
@ 2013-07-17 2:02 PM (#11791 - in reply to #11789) (#11791) Top

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purifire posted @ 2013-07-17 2:02 PM

good idea.
@ 2013-07-17 2:40 PM (#11792 - in reply to #11791) (#11792) Top

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utkaarsh posted @ 2013-07-17 2:40 PM

Rest assured - all of sudoku enthusiasts will be up for this one - LMI is the official one for us ;-)
@ 2013-07-17 2:48 PM (#11793 - in reply to #11790) (#11793) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-07-17 2:48 PM

devarajand - 2013-07-17 2:00 PM

Good. This will give a fair chance to every one all over India. Conduct online solvable event (No printing and paper solving) with exact 2 or 2.5hr duration. Ensure everyone solve on terminal only.


Thats neither easy to do, nor fair. I'm sure the organizers will try to make it online-accessible, but for one thing, "no printing and paper solving" is unfair on those who have a printer and haven't got a great net connection, and also those who have mouse/keyboard related issues. The most ideal format will always be to have both paper solving as well as online solving enabled.

For another, the organizers are now managing 2 events (TSC and ISC) on the back of another event (IPC), so in general, I'd suggest to value the effort put in rather than nitpicking over the little things.
@ 2013-07-17 6:09 PM (#11797 - in reply to #11781) (#11797) Top

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devarajand posted @ 2013-07-17 6:09 PM

If it paper solvable results will not be fair. Can take a few copies and two or three can solve each one and combine submit the answers. Regarding net connection today almost 80% areas are covered by reasonable network, so this wont be an issue. As LMI has already developed required grids, I presume no difficulties to enable only online solving mode which will be very fair.
@ 2013-07-17 6:16 PM (#11798 - in reply to #11797) (#11798) Top

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greenhorn posted @ 2013-07-17 6:16 PM

devarajand - 2013-07-17 6:09 PM

If it paper solvable results will not be fair. Can take a few copies and two or three can solve each one and combine submit the answers. Regarding net connection today almost 80% areas are covered by reasonable network, so this wont be an issue. As LMI has already developed required grids, I presume no difficulties to enable only online solving mode which will be very fair.


Online solving is totally different in comparism with paper solving. Online solver will be in disadvantage at WSC and probably, the goal of ISC is to choose the best participants for WSC.
@ 2013-07-17 6:37 PM (#11799 - in reply to #11797) (#11799) Top

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macherlakumar posted @ 2013-07-17 6:37 PM

devarajand - 2013-07-17 6:09 PM
If it paper solvable results will not be fair. Can take a few copies and two or three can solve each one and combine submit the answers. Regarding net connection today almost 80% areas are covered by reasonable network, so this wont be an issue. As LMI has already developed required grids, I presume no difficulties to enable only online solving mode which will be very fair.

Hi,
With much more bigger things going on and as stated by Prasanna do not nitpick/debate on method of solving. LMI is very much experienced in these things and they exactly know what they are doing.
Even if someone cheats LMI can find that, they have their own methods.
So prepare well for the competition and give your best

Regards,
Ravi
@ 2013-07-17 8:26 PM (#11800 - in reply to #11797) (#11800) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-07-17 8:26 PM

devarajand - 2013-07-17 6:09 PM

If it paper solvable results will not be fair. Can take a few copies and two or three can solve each one and combine submit the answers. Regarding net connection today almost 80% areas are covered by reasonable network, so this wont be an issue. As LMI has already developed required grids, I presume no difficulties to enable only online solving mode which will be very fair.


And online solving can't have two people simultaneously opening the interface, and sending answers simultaneously? There's always ways to try to cheat the system, if you think like that. But you can be rest assured (as mentioned above) that any suspicious results will be checked by LMI, just as they are in any other tests (I don't know if you've ever noticed the "D" that appears next to some participants in usual LMI contests). If something's really suspicious, there are ways to find it out, and you need to trust the organizers to do so, and make sure you are enjoying the competition honestly from your side.

Your arguments are inspired with a slightly different goal to holding a fair contest, I feel, and so your arguments don't really take in everyone's opinion. The fact that you dismissed the net connection factor by saying "80%" and not worrying about the other 20 shows that. Also, think about whether "having a net connection" equates to "having a stable net connection that'll last over 2 hours". You didn't even address the other issues I put forth (mouse/keyboard issues). There's a panel of organizers here to judge any suspicious results. Lets stop thinking about that, and prioritize having the test accessible to 100% instead of 80%.

Also, what do you mean by "As LMI has already developed required grids"? I don't think they've released the progress of the event planning anywhere. If you mean they've developed required grids in the past for the interface to work, how do you know that all the variants for ISC 2013 will be interface-friendly? As someone who has been an author for other country National Championships, I think you're greatly underestimating the effort and planning put in to organize these Championships in general.
@ 2013-07-17 10:02 PM (#11803 - in reply to #11781) (#11803) Top

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ssandy posted @ 2013-07-17 10:02 PM

also in some places there may be sudden and short power cuts which may not affect paper solving as much as online solving which is also a factor
@ 2013-07-18 9:18 AM (#11805 - in reply to #11781) (#11805) Top

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abhishekgoenka89 posted @ 2013-07-18 9:18 AM

Arranging an online round and giving everyone a chance to participate is a very good initiative by LMI.
@ 2013-07-23 9:49 PM (#11875 - in reply to #11781) (#11875) Top

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srag posted @ 2013-07-23 9:49 PM

one question this indian sudoku contest can be taken offline ah?
if so how do we take the test offline and how to sublit our answers?
please let me know
@ 2013-07-23 11:47 PM (#11877 - in reply to #11781) (#11877) Top

Sudarshan M Adhyapak



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Sudarshan M Adhyapak posted @ 2013-07-23 11:47 PM

I'm a new user in this website. Could anyone let me know how to register 4 this event?? Where is the link to register, stuff like that??
@ 2013-07-23 11:50 PM (#11878 - in reply to #11877) (#11878) Top

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amitsowani posted @ 2013-07-23 11:50 PM

The link will be posted soon. You do not need to register separately for the event.
Your LMI registration is sufficient to participate in the event.
@ 2013-07-24 11:24 AM (#11885 - in reply to #11875) (#11885) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-07-24 11:24 AM

srag - 2013-07-23 9:49 PM

one question this indian sudoku contest can be taken offline ah?
if so how do we take the test offline and how to sublit our answers?
please let me know


Check http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=381 for how to submit answers and how to take the test.
@ 2013-07-27 12:05 PM (#11923 - in reply to #11781) (#11923) Top

srag



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srag posted @ 2013-07-27 12:05 PM

Ya thanx i checked the website one thing i not able to understand taking printout solving in paper is ok but then after solving in paper how to i submit it.you told no mail should be sent then how do i submit it.Please say it clearly.
@ 2013-07-27 12:37 PM (#11924 - in reply to #11923) (#11924) Top

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rvarun posted @ 2013-07-27 12:37 PM

srag - 2013-07-27 12:05 PM

Ya thanx i checked the website one thing i not able to understand taking printout solving in paper is ok but then after solving in paper how to i submit it.you told no mail should be sent then how do i submit it.Please say it clearly.


Hi

There are two ways of solving the sudokus in Indian Sudoku Championship 2013.

1. Online mode - You will have a Flash interface with the grids where you can solve the sudoku online and click submit button, which is present in the bottom of each sudoku. So you can click the submit button immediately after you finish each sudoku.

2. Offline mode - You need to take printout of the Puzzle booklet. Solve it offline and there will be marked rowa/columns in each sudoku. (Either two rows/two columns/one row and one column). Enter the digits of the marked rows/columns in the Text box provided for each sudoku in the Competition page. Then press Submit button present in top of the Competion page just above the text boxes.

All these details are explained in the link present in Prasanna's previous post. Please go through the link once more and also navigate the site and forum. You will get more details.
@ 2013-07-28 1:39 PM (#11949 - in reply to #11781) (#11949) Top

srag



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srag posted @ 2013-07-28 1:39 PM

K thanx i read it i understood clearly.Bt i dont have printer i need to go outside take printout so before the test begins i will be able to download and take printout?
@ 2013-07-28 1:54 PM (#11950 - in reply to #11949) (#11950) Top

rvarun



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rvarun posted @ 2013-07-28 1:54 PM

srag - 2013-07-28 1:39 PM

K thanx i read it i understood clearly.Bt i dont have printer i need to go outside take printout so before the test begins i will be able to download and take printout?


No. You cannot do it. You will be able to open the Password protected booklet once you click "Start the Test" button. The Timer will start once you click the button. You will be wasting time if you go out and take printout. It will be better if you solve in Online mode.
@ 2013-07-29 11:22 PM (#11997 - in reply to #11781) (#11997) Top

srag



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srag posted @ 2013-07-29 11:22 PM

k thanx
@ 2013-08-01 8:09 PM (#12039 - in reply to #11997) (#12039) Top

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amitsowani posted @ 2013-08-01 8:09 PM

Indian Sudoku Championship on 11th August (Sunday)


There is a slight change in the date for the Indian Sudoku Championship.
The event will start at 14:00 on Sunday, 11th August similar to the IPC which also started on a Sunday.
The ISC will also be extended for 48 hours from the start to accommodate all international participants.

@ 2013-08-03 11:37 PM (#12072 - in reply to #11781) (#12072) Top

srag



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srag posted @ 2013-08-03 11:37 PM

Can i know wat are the various kinds of sudoku that will be involved in Indian Sudoku Championship?
@ 2013-08-04 11:03 AM (#12076 - in reply to #11781) (#12076) Top

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dp_94 posted @ 2013-08-04 11:03 AM

hey there will be an instruction booklet uploaded soon in which you can find information about the sudoku's that are appearing in the competition.
@ 2013-08-04 2:38 PM (#12077 - in reply to #11781) (#12077) Top

srag



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srag posted @ 2013-08-04 2:38 PM

Can i know Wen dat instruction booklet ll be uploaded?
@ 2013-08-04 3:09 PM (#12079 - in reply to #11781) (#12079) Top

srag



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srag posted @ 2013-08-04 3:09 PM

whether the instruction booklet will be uploaded at the time of competition or before that?
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