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Posts: 16 Country : Hungary | wicktroll posted @ 2013-04-04 11:12 PM Thanks, it's clear now. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2013-04-05 1:17 AM skywalker - 2013-04-04 2:14 PM Updated version of IB uploaded, with gray cells being 25% gray. (Images for 13 Placement and 14 Thermo are not fixed, but they will use 25% gray in the puzzle booklet). We'll prepare version 2 of IB with lighter grey to check is it better and after that define grey for PB. Hope it is better. |
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Posts: 4 Country : Czech Republic | tojejedno posted @ 2013-04-06 1:50 PM Administrator - 2013-04-05 1:17 AM skywalker - 2013-04-04 2:14 PM Updated version of IB uploaded, with gray cells being 25% gray. (Images for 13 Placement and 14 Thermo are not fixed, but they will use 25% gray in the puzzle booklet). We'll prepare version 2 of IB with lighter grey to check is it better and after that define grey for PB. Hope it is better. Thanks a lot, it is much better. |
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Posts: 139 ![]() ![]() Country : Estonia | TiiT posted @ 2013-04-11 10:52 AM About word search: 1.The rule says that Find all given words. Do I really have to find all the words or do I need to solve the sudoku? Or you just want to say that it's not solvable if you don't find all the words? 2. What do you mean about Find all given words (only words with capital letters) in the words list? Do I have to find all the words or do I have to find only the words with capital letters. The rule speaks against itself. TiiT |
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Posts: 148 ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : France | Ours brun posted @ 2013-04-11 2:38 PM 1. I guess we have to read it as "words can be found in the grid and you'd better search them if you want to solve the sudoku", indeed. 2. I may be wrong but I suppose there will be something like a text accompanying the competition puzzle, with only some words in capital letters. |
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Posts: 42 ![]() ![]() Country : Serbia | skywalker posted @ 2013-04-11 4:18 PM TiiT - 2013-04-11 10:52 AM About word search: 1.The rule says that Find all given words. Do I really have to find all the words or do I need to solve the sudoku? Or you just want to say that it's not solvable if you don't find all the words? 2. What do you mean about Find all given words (only words with capital letters) in the words list? Do I have to find all the words or do I have to find only the words with capital letters. The rule speaks against itself. TiiT All words written by capital letters (there will be additional words in competition puzzle, that you can completely ignore during solve) are placed somewhere in solved sudoku. You don't need to mark words in solved grid. It is enough to solve sudoku according to this additional rules. For example: BUENOS Aires, New YORK. Only BUENOS and YORK must be in solved sudoku. Branko |
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Posts: 28 ![]() Country : Czech Republic | Karel Tesar posted @ 2013-04-11 7:29 PM I hope you'll appreciate a little bit of practice on the next WPF round. We are preparing for you these sudoku variants: 15.04.2013 - Quadruple (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round) 16.04.2013 - Arrow Sudoku (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round) 17.04.2013 - Tennis Sudoku (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round) 18.04.2013 - Little Killer (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round) 19.04.2013 - Thermo-sudoku (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round) 20.04.2013 - Renban Groups (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round) 21.04.2013 - Jigsaw Sudoku (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round) More you can find on http://sudokucup.com/node/1901 |
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Posts: 139 ![]() ![]() Country : Estonia | TiiT posted @ 2013-04-12 9:33 PM About New YORK, actually the capital letters are NYORK, do I need to find N_ _ YORK somewhere, or NYORK somewhere (how do I need to take blanks). Or what if there is like SeRbIa, how do I have to act then? I just don't have it clear and I would like to avoid unpleasant surprises. TiiT |
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Posts: 25 ![]() Country : India | dp_94 posted @ 2013-04-13 12:19 AM word search -> words may be found in any of eight directions can someone clears it |
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Posts: 164 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : Slovakia | greenhorn posted @ 2013-04-13 1:06 AM dp_94 - 2013-04-13 12:19 AM word search -> words may be found in any of eight directions can someone clears it Yes, all 8 directions are allowed. |
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Posts: 42 ![]() ![]() Country : Serbia | skywalker posted @ 2013-04-13 1:32 AM TiiT - 2013-04-12 9:33 PM About New YORK, actually the capital letters are NYORK, do I need to find N_ _ YORK somewhere, or NYORK somewhere (how do I need to take blanks). Or what if there is like SeRbIa, how do I have to act then? I just don't have it clear and I would like to avoid unpleasant surprises. TiiT Tiit, sorry if I confused you. There will be no surprises in competition puzzle. Words completely written using CAPITAL letters must be found somewhere in solved grid. For New YORK, you need to place YORK somewhere in grid. Branko |
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Posts: 42 ![]() ![]() Country : Serbia | skywalker posted @ 2013-04-13 2:53 AM dp_94 - 2013-04-13 12:19 AM word search -> words may be found in any of eight directions can someone clears it The words may be placed in any direction: horizontally, vertically, diagonally, and forwards and backwards (8 directions in total). Branko |
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![]() Posts: 337 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : Switzerland | Fred76 posted @ 2013-04-16 8:59 PM In the IB, rules of sudokus: "placement (shape) sudoku", "thermo-sudoku", "killer sudoku" and "movable digits" contain words "bolded region" instead of "bolded 3x3 box". Will they all be irregular or is it just a little lack of precision of rules (examples have 3x3 boxes, except movable digits)? Can we know exactly which sudokus will have irregular regions (example of movable digits has irregular regions, but the actual puzzle in WSC 2011 had 3x3 boxes)? Thanks, Fred |
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Posts: 42 ![]() ![]() Country : Serbia | skywalker posted @ 2013-04-17 12:46 AM Fred76 - 2013-04-16 8:59 PM In the IB, rules of sudokus: "placement (shape) sudoku", "thermo-sudoku", "killer sudoku" and "movable digits" contain words "bolded region" instead of "bolded 3x3 box". Will they all be irregular or is it just a little lack of precision of rules (examples have 3x3 boxes, except movable digits)? Can we know exactly which sudokus will have irregular regions (example of movable digits has irregular regions, but the actual puzzle in WSC 2011 had 3x3 boxes)? Thanks, Fred Movable digits has irregular regions, all other sudokus are with 3x3 boxes. P.S. In all three sudokus (placement, thermo, killer) will be some non-box shapes for sure... Branko |
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![]() Posts: 337 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : Switzerland | Fred76 posted @ 2013-04-17 1:05 AM Thanks ! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2013-04-17 12:11 PM All sudokus in this contest can be solved online as well. Selected examples are available for online solving for practice purpose. |
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Posts: 1 Country : Taiwan | robertolee posted @ 2013-04-17 8:22 PM Sorry, I don't still understand the 16th question. Original, I have the same idea with Wicktroll. But after Para's reply, I was confused. Could anyone explain how you solve this puzzle at first 3 or 5 steps? thanks. About Para's reply, he said "The rule only states that one of the neighbors of a GIVEN digit, must contain that digit." what is the GIVEN digit? thanks. |
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Posts: 42 ![]() ![]() Country : Serbia | skywalker posted @ 2013-04-17 11:18 PM robertolee - 2013-04-17 8:22 PM Sorry, I don't still understand the 16th question. Original, I have the same idea with Wicktroll. But after Para's reply, I was confused. Could anyone explain how you solve this puzzle at first 3 or 5 steps? thanks. About Para's reply, he said "The rule only states that one of the neighbors of a GIVEN digit, must contain that digit." what is the GIVEN digit? thanks. For example: 6 is GIVEN digit (left grid) on R6C1. This digit 6 in solved grid must be on R5C1 or R6C2 and for sure this 6 doesn't leave region (bottom left). GIVEN 6 on R5C1 must move on some of next cells: R5C2, R6C1, R4C1. First digit 6 is on R5C1 or R6C2, so that leaves only R4C1 as position for second 6. After that you can conclude that first 6 is on R6C2. You can try to continue using similar logic... Branko |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2013-04-18 12:48 PM About Movable Digits, in pictures Any given digit in left grid, must appear at one of the 4 adjacent cells in the right grid. In the grid below look at the marked cell with "A" in the left grid. It means, "A" must appear at least once in the marked cells in the right grid. (It could appear twice, but at least once). ![]() Now here is the sudoku from the instruction booklet, with the solution next to it. You can see the rule being applied for each of the given digits in the left grid. ![]() |
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Posts: 8 Country : Iran | Mahyar posted @ 2013-04-18 1:34 PM Hello Admin, Thank you for explaining Movable Digits rule. Everything is clear.... |
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Posts: 42 ![]() ![]() Country : Serbia | skywalker posted @ 2013-04-18 10:47 PM Thanks, Deb. Branko Edited by skywalker 2013-04-18 10:48 PM |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2013-04-20 12:24 AM Announcements1) Password protected Sudoku booklet is uploaded. It has 9 pages. There is no cover page or points table.2) Paper only link : http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/04S/?paper=1 Use this link if you are not planning to use online solving at all. (Paper Only link will keep your browser less cluttered and your browser uses less memory) 3) Link to score page : http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/04S/score.asp 4) This thread will be made restricted so that players can freely discuss about the competition. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2013-04-20 12:27 AM You can see this message after completing the test. |
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Posts: 315 ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2013-04-20 1:52 AM Is the last post important, as I'm not allowed to read it except for the words "You can". |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2013-04-20 5:37 AM Para - 2013-04-20 1:52 AM It is just a test message.Is the last post important, as I'm not allowed to read it except for the words "You can". |