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Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012
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Subject: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-06 6:23 AM (#7467) (#7467) Top


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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-06 9:49 AM (#7469 - in reply to #7467) (#7469) Top





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very very nice logo, who designed this ? David ?

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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-06 12:08 PM (#7470 - in reply to #7469) (#7470) Top


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very very nice logo, who designed this ? David ?
The logo was designed by my daughter Kate and now she's very happy the logo is liked.

Edited by AndreyBogdanov 2012-06-06 12:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-09 7:53 AM (#7474 - in reply to #7467) (#7474) Top


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Logic Masters India announces June Puzzle Test — Seven Samurais

Author : Andrey Bogdanov

Dates : 16th - 18th June

IB and Submission Link : here
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-10 4:19 AM (#7476 - in reply to #7467) (#7476) Top




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One question for the battleships puzzle. Can a ship cross over the edge of a grid into another grid, so that in one grid it is a smaller size than in another grid?
So say in the example puzzle: in the right top grid a size 3 ship lies in R5C123 and then at the same time in the left bottom grid a size 2 ship lies in R2C45.

Also a clarification about the star battle puzzle, I assume that stars which belong to different grid can touch diagonally, like in the battleships example?

Edited by Para 2012-06-10 4:23 AM
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-10 10:07 AM (#7477 - in reply to #7476) (#7477) Top


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Can the Minesweeper puzzle have the possibility given below? The number satisfies each grid independently, but not together.



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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-10 12:02 PM (#7478 - in reply to #7476) (#7478) Top


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One question for the battleships puzzle. Can a ship cross over the edge of a grid into another grid, so that in one grid it is a smaller size than in another grid?
Yes, it can. Ships don't have rounded corners and you could consider it as a simle set of marked cells for each grid.

Also a clarification about the star battle puzzle, I assume that stars which belong to different grid can touch diagonally, like in the battleships example?
Touching of stars which don't belong to the same grid is possible.
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-10 12:03 PM (#7479 - in reply to #7477) (#7479) Top


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Can the Minesweeper puzzle have the possibility given below? The number satisfies each grid independently, but not together.
Your picture is correct. Each grid is satisfy the rule.
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Subject: RE: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-10 1:20 PM (#7480 - in reply to #7467) (#7480) Top


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All participants could try the puzzles of the last Moscow Cup. See here. I made this round using the same idea of overlapping grids. The file is in Russian but mostly puzzles are well known:
1. Tents
2. Yin-Yang
3. Batleships
4. Heyawake
5. No touch - Write digits 1 to 7 into the grid (each digits could be used any times). Digits cannot touch each other. Numbers outside show the sum of digits in the corresponding row.
6. Tetroscop - Place the complete tetromino set - elements cannot touch each other even diagonally. Clues show the number of occupied neighbouring cells. Pieces could be rotated and reflected.
7. Minesweeper - 17 mines for each grid.
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-10 2:41 PM (#7481 - in reply to #7467) (#7481) Top




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In the bottom grid of the battleships example, if we toggled the first two cells each of R3 and R5, would we have another solution?
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-10 3:41 PM (#7482 - in reply to #7480) (#7482) Top


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I guess the Moscow Cup puzzles were of an easier difficulty, which is good for practicing the basic steps in the samurai grid. I have fun on Samurais, though I'm not that good at the sudoku version. Hopefully I'm good at the puzzle version :P
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-10 4:20 PM (#7483 - in reply to #7481) (#7483) Top


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boing - 2012-06-10 12:41 PM

In the bottom grid of the battleships example, if we toggled the first two cells each of R3 and R5, would we have another solution?

Yes, you are right. The example has muliply solutions. A hope test puzzles will have unique solition.
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-11 3:24 PM (#7484 - in reply to #7467) (#7484) Top


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What about the minesweeper? Has the puzzle in IB more than one solution? Or I missed something during solving?

Edited by greenhorn 2012-06-11 3:54 PM
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-11 3:53 PM (#7485 - in reply to #7467) (#7485) Top


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In Hitori, the instructions say that all the unblackened cells should be connected. Is it valid for the whole puzzle (5 grids) or always for one small puzzle?
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-11 10:58 PM (#7486 - in reply to #7485) (#7486) Top


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greenhorn - 2012-06-11 3:53 PM

In Hitori, the instructions say that all the unblackened cells should be connected. Is it valid for the whole puzzle (5 grids) or always for one small puzzle?


After thinking about it, it seems to be slightly impossible to have one grid without connected white cells and the others with connected. So sorry for stupid question
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-12 9:52 AM (#7487 - in reply to #7486) (#7487) Top


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greenhorn - 2012-06-11 10:58 PM

After thinking about it, it seems to be slightly impossible to have one grid without connected white cells and the others with connected. So sorry for stupid question

I had the same doubt earlier. But, I wanted to ask by posting an image and thats when I realised I couldn't create such a case (unless the overlapped region consists of just one cell).
Same goes for Yin Yang too.
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-12 1:34 PM (#7488 - in reply to #7486) (#7488) Top


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What about the minesweeper? Has the puzzle in IB more than one solution? Or I missed something during solving?

I couldn't find alternate solution. Describe if you have it.

After thinking about it, it seems to be slightly impossible to have one grid without connected white cells and the others with connected. So sorry for stupid question
All rules must be valid for each single grid. But of course sometimes it implies some restrictions for whole puzzle.
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Subject: RE: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-13 9:44 AM (#7492 - in reply to #7467) (#7492) Top



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Some practice material from Puzzle Graffiti :

Yin Yang
Battleships
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-13 3:11 PM (#7494 - in reply to #7467) (#7494) Top




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Top grid of Hitori. Is there a 2nd solution by colouring the opposite 5 in row 3? Is there actually a 3rd solution there by colouring the opposite 1 (row 2) and 5 (row 3)?
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-13 4:59 PM (#7495 - in reply to #7494) (#7495) Top


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Top grid of Hitori. Is there a 2nd solution by colouring the opposite 5 in row 3? Is there actually a 3rd solution there by colouring the opposite 1 (row 2) and 5 (row 3)?
Yes, there was a mistake in this example, which was found by Deb at the last moment and I've corrected picture without checking uniqueness.
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-13 5:15 PM (#7496 - in reply to #7495) (#7496) Top



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AndreyBogdanov - 2012-06-13 4:59 PM

Top grid of Hitori. Is there a 2nd solution by colouring the opposite 5 in row 3? Is there actually a 3rd solution there by colouring the opposite 1 (row 2) and 5 (row 3)?
Yes, there was a mistake in this example, which was found by Deb at the last moment and I've corrected picture without checking uniqueness.
And you should have mentioned that it is me who suggested the 'correction' as well. Sorry about the blind suggestion.
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-15 11:31 PM (#7500 - in reply to #7467) (#7500) Top


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• Password protected pdf is uploaded. It has 8 pages, including a cover page with points table.
• Submitting during extra time will be considered only if points scored during extra time is more than penalty.



PS : A wrong date was entered as the start time of the test, and 4 players have participated in last few hours. This has been rectified, but those players' scores will be valid.

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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-16 3:49 PM (#7501 - in reply to #7467) (#7501) Top




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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-16 10:32 PM (#7503 - in reply to #7467) (#7503) Top


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The score page doesn't handle the extra time related computations yet. Please allow us some more time to make it complete.
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Subject: Re: Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test — 16th-18th June 2012 @ 2012-06-17 11:46 AM (#7504 - in reply to #7467) (#7504) Top




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The webpage is not showing me the start puzzle button at all or the timer...how do i start solving the puzzle and submit my answers.


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