Thread - Seven Samurais - LMI June Puzzle Test

@ 2012-06-11 10:58 PM (#7486 - in reply to #7485) (#7486) Top

greenhorn

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greenhorn posted @ 2012-06-11 10:58 PM

greenhorn - 2012-06-11 3:53 PM

In Hitori, the instructions say that all the unblackened cells should be connected. Is it valid for the whole puzzle (5 grids) or always for one small puzzle?

After thinking about it, it seems to be slightly impossible to have one grid without connected white cells and the others with connected. So sorry for stupid question

@ 2012-06-12 9:52 AM (#7487 - in reply to #7486) (#7487) Top

vopani

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vopani posted @ 2012-06-12 9:52 AM

greenhorn - 2012-06-11 10:58 PM

After thinking about it, it seems to be slightly impossible to have one grid without connected white cells and the others with connected. So sorry for stupid question

I had the same doubt earlier. But, I wanted to ask by posting an image and thats when I realised I couldn't create such a case (unless the overlapped region consists of just one cell).
Same goes for Yin Yang too.

@ 2012-06-12 1:34 PM (#7488 - in reply to #7486) (#7488) Top

AndreyBogdanov

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AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2012-06-12 1:34 PM

What about the minesweeper? Has the puzzle in IB more than one solution? Or I missed something during solving?

I couldn't find alternate solution. Describe if you have it.

After thinking about it, it seems to be slightly impossible to have one grid without connected white cells and the others with connected. So sorry for stupid question

All rules must be valid for each single grid. But of course sometimes it implies some restrictions for whole puzzle.

@ 2012-06-13 9:44 AM (#7492 - in reply to #7467) (#7492) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-06-13 9:44 AM

Some practice material from Puzzle Graffiti :

Yin Yang
Battleships

@ 2012-06-13 3:11 PM (#7494 - in reply to #7467) (#7494) Top

PuzzleScot

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PuzzleScot posted @ 2012-06-13 3:11 PM

Top grid of Hitori. Is there a 2nd solution by colouring the opposite 5 in row 3? Is there actually a 3rd solution there by colouring the opposite 1 (row 2) and 5 (row 3)?

@ 2012-06-13 4:59 PM (#7495 - in reply to #7494) (#7495) Top

AndreyBogdanov

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AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2012-06-13 4:59 PM

Top grid of Hitori. Is there a 2nd solution by colouring the opposite 5 in row 3? Is there actually a 3rd solution there by colouring the opposite 1 (row 2) and 5 (row 3)?

Yes, there was a mistake in this example, which was found by Deb at the last moment and I've corrected picture without checking uniqueness.

@ 2012-06-13 5:15 PM (#7496 - in reply to #7495) (#7496) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-06-13 5:15 PM

AndreyBogdanov - 2012-06-13 4:59 PM

Top grid of Hitori. Is there a 2nd solution by colouring the opposite 5 in row 3? Is there actually a 3rd solution there by colouring the opposite 1 (row 2) and 5 (row 3)?

Yes, there was a mistake in this example, which was found by Deb at the last moment and I've corrected picture without checking uniqueness.

And you should have mentioned that it is me who suggested the 'correction' as well. Sorry about the blind suggestion.

@ 2012-06-15 11:31 PM (#7500 - in reply to #7467) (#7500) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2012-06-15 11:31 PM

Announcements

• Password protected pdf is uploaded. It has 8 pages, including a cover page with points table.
• Submitting during extra time will be considered only if points scored during extra time is more than penalty.

PS : A wrong date was entered as the start time of the test, and 4 players have participated in last few hours. This has been rectified, but those players' scores will be valid.

@ 2012-06-16 3:49 PM (#7501 - in reply to #7467) (#7501) Top

PuzzleScot

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PuzzleScot posted @ 2012-06-16 3:49 PM

DELETED COMMENT

Edited by PuzzleScot 2012-06-16 3:51 PM

@ 2012-06-16 10:32 PM (#7503 - in reply to #7467) (#7503) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2012-06-16 10:32 PM

The score page doesn't handle the extra time related computations yet. Please allow us some more time to make it complete.

@ 2012-06-17 11:46 AM (#7504 - in reply to #7467) (#7504) Top

supreet

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supreet posted @ 2012-06-17 11:46 AM

The webpage is not showing me the start puzzle button at all or the timer...how do i start solving the puzzle and submit my answers.

Edited by supreet 2012-06-17 11:53 AM

@ 2012-06-17 1:47 PM (#7505 - in reply to #7504) (#7505) Top

Para

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Para posted @ 2012-06-17 1:47 PM

supreet - 2012-06-17 11:46 AM

The webpage is not showing me the start puzzle button at all or the timer...how do i start solving the puzzle and submit my answers.

Are you logged in on the puzzle page? If you're not, there won't be a start button yet. If you have three boxes to fill in name, password and country, you have to log in first and then the start button will appear.

@ 2012-06-17 4:00 PM (#7506 - in reply to #7467) (#7506) Top

supreet

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supreet posted @ 2012-06-17 4:00 PM

The three boxes you are mentioning are also not displayed on my webpage. What do i do?
when i open this discussion thread, its showing me as logged in on the top right hand corner..." Welcome, supreet...", but not on the puzzle page.

Edited by supreet 2012-06-17 4:03 PM

@ 2012-06-17 6:06 PM (#7507 - in reply to #7506) (#7507) Top

Para

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Para posted @ 2012-06-17 6:06 PM

supreet - 2012-06-17 4:00 PM

The three boxes you are mentioning are also not displayed on my webpage. What do i do?
when i open this discussion thread, its showing me as logged in on the top right hand corner..." Welcome, supreet...", but not on the puzzle page.

I'm no admin, but as far as I have noticed so far, the forum and the test page aren't directly linked with being logged in. So it can occur that you are logged in on the forum, but not on the Test page. So to play a test, you have to make sure you're logged in on the Test Page (here: http://logicmastersindia.com/M201206P ). If there are no boxes to log i on that page now AND there is no start button, then you should contact Deb, as I have no better information available.

@ 2012-06-17 6:24 PM (#7508 - in reply to #7467) (#7508) Top

gokulakrishnan

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gokulakrishnan posted @ 2012-06-17 6:24 PM

what is tghe pasword for the pdf????, am not able to open it

@ 2012-06-17 7:11 PM (#7509 - in reply to #7508) (#7509) Top

AndreyBogdanov

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AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2012-06-17 7:11 PM

gokulakrishnan - 2012-06-17 4:24 PM

what is tghe pasword for the pdf????, am not able to open it

The password will be available when you log into test page and press "Star Seven Samurais" button. After the end of test (on June 19) the password will be available without logging.

@ 2012-06-17 10:42 PM (#7510 - in reply to #7467) (#7510) Top

puzzlemad

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puzzlemad posted @ 2012-06-17 10:42 PM

As always thank you very much to everyone for an enjoyable set of puzzles - plenty to keep me going now!

@ 2012-06-18 1:31 AM (#7511 - in reply to #7467) (#7511) Top

forcolin

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forcolin posted @ 2012-06-18 1:31 AM

The puzzles were all excellent as expected, but what was absolutely superb is the logo.
Thanks Andrey and Kate

@ 2012-06-18 4:44 AM (#7512 - in reply to #7508) (#7512) Top

wss121

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wss121 posted @ 2012-06-18 4:44 AM

gokulakrishnan - 2012-06-17 6:24 PM

what is tghe pasword for the pdf????, am not able to open it

the pasword for the pdf :F

Edited by debmohanty 2012-06-18 5:16 AM

@ 2012-06-18 4:49 AM (#7513 - in reply to #7467) (#7513) Top

wss121

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wss121 posted @ 2012-06-18 4:49 AM

I like the puzzles, but I have no idea with the YINYANG

@ 2012-06-18 5:23 AM (#7514 - in reply to #7512) (#7514) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2012-06-18 5:23 AM

wss121 - 2012-06-18 4:44 AM

gokulakrishnan - 2012-06-17 6:24 PM

what is tghe pasword for the pdf????, am not able to open it

the pasword for the pdf :F

Isn't it interesting why the admins / organizers / author didn't post the password?
May be they didn't have the password!

@ 2012-06-18 2:02 PM (#7515 - in reply to #7467) (#7515) Top

vivek

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vivek posted @ 2012-06-18 2:02 PM

Respected Sir
I want to organise prelims of any kind of world sudoku championship at my college from 2nd to 4th of November at MNIT,Jaipur during our fest.It would be a matter of great pride for us.

Please do reply at viveknandwani2@gmail.com

@ 2012-06-18 7:54 PM (#7516 - in reply to #7467) (#7516) Top

supreet

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supreet posted @ 2012-06-18 7:54 PM

Why is the Minesweeper puzzle showing 20 per each grid instead of 25 on the answer submission page?

@ 2012-06-18 10:55 PM (#7517 - in reply to #7516) (#7517) Top

AndreyBogdanov

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AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2012-06-18 10:55 PM

supreet - 2012-06-18 5:54 PM

Why is the Minesweeper puzzle showing 20 per each grid instead of 25 on the answer submission page?

Minesweeper costs 20 point for all solvers. 25 is the number of minus to be placed, not points.

@ 2012-06-19 1:20 AM (#7518 - in reply to #7517) (#7518) Top

MellowMelon

Country : United States

MellowMelon posted @ 2012-06-19 1:20 AM

Thanks for some amazing puzzles. I had no idea the overlapping grids concept could result in challenges like what we got here. Yin-yang and Fences/Slitherlink were probably my favorites.

Surprised (in a positive way) at my performance, given how little energy I've had to devote to puzzles in the last month.


	@ 2012-06-11 10:58 PM (#7486 - in reply to #7485) (#7486) Top
greenhorn Posts: 164 Country : Slovakia	greenhorn posted @ 2012-06-11 10:58 PM greenhorn - 2012-06-11 3:53 PM In Hitori, the instructions say that all the unblackened cells should be connected. Is it valid for the whole puzzle (5 grids) or always for one small puzzle? After thinking about it, it seems to be slightly impossible to have one grid without connected white cells and the others with connected. So sorry for stupid question
	@ 2012-06-12 9:52 AM (#7487 - in reply to #7486) (#7487) Top
vopani Posts: 739 Country : India	vopani posted @ 2012-06-12 9:52 AM greenhorn - 2012-06-11 10:58 PM After thinking about it, it seems to be slightly impossible to have one grid without connected white cells and the others with connected. So sorry for stupid question I had the same doubt earlier. But, I wanted to ask by posting an image and thats when I realised I couldn't create such a case (unless the overlapped region consists of just one cell). Same goes for Yin Yang too.
	@ 2012-06-12 1:34 PM (#7488 - in reply to #7486) (#7488) Top
AndreyBogdanov Posts: 44 Country : Russia	AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2012-06-12 1:34 PM What about the minesweeper? Has the puzzle in IB more than one solution? Or I missed something during solving? I couldn't find alternate solution. Describe if you have it. After thinking about it, it seems to be slightly impossible to have one grid without connected white cells and the others with connected. So sorry for stupid question All rules must be valid for each single grid. But of course sometimes it implies some restrictions for whole puzzle.
	@ 2012-06-13 9:44 AM (#7492 - in reply to #7467) (#7492) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2012-06-13 9:44 AM Some practice material from Puzzle Graffiti : Yin Yang Battleships
	@ 2012-06-13 3:11 PM (#7494 - in reply to #7467) (#7494) Top
PuzzleScot Posts: 31 Country : United Kingdom	PuzzleScot posted @ 2012-06-13 3:11 PM Top grid of Hitori. Is there a 2nd solution by colouring the opposite 5 in row 3? Is there actually a 3rd solution there by colouring the opposite 1 (row 2) and 5 (row 3)?
	@ 2012-06-13 4:59 PM (#7495 - in reply to #7494) (#7495) Top
AndreyBogdanov Posts: 44 Country : Russia	AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2012-06-13 4:59 PM Top grid of Hitori. Is there a 2nd solution by colouring the opposite 5 in row 3? Is there actually a 3rd solution there by colouring the opposite 1 (row 2) and 5 (row 3)? Yes, there was a mistake in this example, which was found by Deb at the last moment and I've corrected picture without checking uniqueness.
	@ 2012-06-13 5:15 PM (#7496 - in reply to #7495) (#7496) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2012-06-13 5:15 PM AndreyBogdanov - 2012-06-13 4:59 PM Top grid of Hitori. Is there a 2nd solution by colouring the opposite 5 in row 3? Is there actually a 3rd solution there by colouring the opposite 1 (row 2) and 5 (row 3)? Yes, there was a mistake in this example, which was found by Deb at the last moment and I've corrected picture without checking uniqueness. And you should have mentioned that it is me who suggested the 'correction' as well. Sorry about the blind suggestion.
	@ 2012-06-15 11:31 PM (#7500 - in reply to #7467) (#7500) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2012-06-15 11:31 PM Announcements • Password protected pdf is uploaded. It has 8 pages, including a cover page with points table. • Submitting during extra time will be considered only if points scored during extra time is more than penalty. PS : A wrong date was entered as the start time of the test, and 4 players have participated in last few hours. This has been rectified, but those players' scores will be valid.
	@ 2012-06-16 3:49 PM (#7501 - in reply to #7467) (#7501) Top
PuzzleScot Posts: 31 Country : United Kingdom	PuzzleScot posted @ 2012-06-16 3:49 PM DELETED COMMENT Edited by PuzzleScot 2012-06-16 3:51 PM
	@ 2012-06-16 10:32 PM (#7503 - in reply to #7467) (#7503) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2012-06-16 10:32 PM The score page doesn't handle the extra time related computations yet. Please allow us some more time to make it complete.
	@ 2012-06-17 11:46 AM (#7504 - in reply to #7467) (#7504) Top
supreet Posts: 3 Country : India	supreet posted @ 2012-06-17 11:46 AM The webpage is not showing me the start puzzle button at all or the timer...how do i start solving the puzzle and submit my answers. Edited by supreet 2012-06-17 11:53 AM
	@ 2012-06-17 1:47 PM (#7505 - in reply to #7504) (#7505) Top
Para Posts: 315 Country : The Netherlands	Para posted @ 2012-06-17 1:47 PM supreet - 2012-06-17 11:46 AM The webpage is not showing me the start puzzle button at all or the timer...how do i start solving the puzzle and submit my answers. Are you logged in on the puzzle page? If you're not, there won't be a start button yet. If you have three boxes to fill in name, password and country, you have to log in first and then the start button will appear.
	@ 2012-06-17 4:00 PM (#7506 - in reply to #7467) (#7506) Top
supreet Posts: 3 Country : India	supreet posted @ 2012-06-17 4:00 PM The three boxes you are mentioning are also not displayed on my webpage. What do i do? when i open this discussion thread, its showing me as logged in on the top right hand corner..." Welcome, supreet...", but not on the puzzle page. Edited by supreet 2012-06-17 4:03 PM
	@ 2012-06-17 6:06 PM (#7507 - in reply to #7506) (#7507) Top
Para Posts: 315 Country : The Netherlands	Para posted @ 2012-06-17 6:06 PM supreet - 2012-06-17 4:00 PM The three boxes you are mentioning are also not displayed on my webpage. What do i do? when i open this discussion thread, its showing me as logged in on the top right hand corner..." Welcome, supreet...", but not on the puzzle page. I'm no admin, but as far as I have noticed so far, the forum and the test page aren't directly linked with being logged in. So it can occur that you are logged in on the forum, but not on the Test page. So to play a test, you have to make sure you're logged in on the Test Page (here: http://logicmastersindia.com/M201206P ). If there are no boxes to log i on that page now AND there is no start button, then you should contact Deb, as I have no better information available.
	@ 2012-06-17 6:24 PM (#7508 - in reply to #7467) (#7508) Top
gokulakrishnan Posts: 1 Country : India	gokulakrishnan posted @ 2012-06-17 6:24 PM what is tghe pasword for the pdf????, am not able to open it
	@ 2012-06-17 7:11 PM (#7509 - in reply to #7508) (#7509) Top
AndreyBogdanov Posts: 44 Country : Russia	AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2012-06-17 7:11 PM gokulakrishnan - 2012-06-17 4:24 PM what is tghe pasword for the pdf????, am not able to open it The password will be available when you log into test page and press "Star Seven Samurais" button. After the end of test (on June 19) the password will be available without logging.
	@ 2012-06-17 10:42 PM (#7510 - in reply to #7467) (#7510) Top
puzzlemad Posts: 28 Country : United Kingdom	puzzlemad posted @ 2012-06-17 10:42 PM As always thank you very much to everyone for an enjoyable set of puzzles - plenty to keep me going now!
	@ 2012-06-18 1:31 AM (#7511 - in reply to #7467) (#7511) Top
forcolin Posts: 172 Country : ITALY	forcolin posted @ 2012-06-18 1:31 AM The puzzles were all excellent as expected, but what was absolutely superb is the logo. Thanks Andrey and Kate
	@ 2012-06-18 4:44 AM (#7512 - in reply to #7508) (#7512) Top
wss121 Posts: 2 Country : China	wss121 posted @ 2012-06-18 4:44 AM gokulakrishnan - 2012-06-17 6:24 PM what is tghe pasword for the pdf????, am not able to open it the pasword for the pdf :F Edited by debmohanty 2012-06-18 5:16 AM
	@ 2012-06-18 4:49 AM (#7513 - in reply to #7467) (#7513) Top
wss121 Posts: 2 Country : China	wss121 posted @ 2012-06-18 4:49 AM I like the puzzles, but I have no idea with the YINYANG
	@ 2012-06-18 5:23 AM (#7514 - in reply to #7512) (#7514) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2012-06-18 5:23 AM wss121 - 2012-06-18 4:44 AM gokulakrishnan - 2012-06-17 6:24 PM what is tghe pasword for the pdf????, am not able to open it the pasword for the pdf :F Isn't it interesting why the admins / organizers / author didn't post the password? May be they didn't have the password!
	@ 2012-06-18 2:02 PM (#7515 - in reply to #7467) (#7515) Top
vivek Posts: 1	vivek posted @ 2012-06-18 2:02 PM Respected Sir I want to organise prelims of any kind of world sudoku championship at my college from 2nd to 4th of November at MNIT,Jaipur during our fest.It would be a matter of great pride for us. Please do reply at viveknandwani2@gmail.com
	@ 2012-06-18 7:54 PM (#7516 - in reply to #7467) (#7516) Top
supreet Posts: 3 Country : India	supreet posted @ 2012-06-18 7:54 PM Why is the Minesweeper puzzle showing 20 per each grid instead of 25 on the answer submission page?
	@ 2012-06-18 10:55 PM (#7517 - in reply to #7516) (#7517) Top
AndreyBogdanov Posts: 44 Country : Russia	AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2012-06-18 10:55 PM supreet - 2012-06-18 5:54 PM Why is the Minesweeper puzzle showing 20 per each grid instead of 25 on the answer submission page? Minesweeper costs 20 point for all solvers. 25 is the number of minus to be placed, not points.
	@ 2012-06-19 1:20 AM (#7518 - in reply to #7517) (#7518) Top
MellowMelon Country : United States	MellowMelon posted @ 2012-06-19 1:20 AM Thanks for some amazing puzzles. I had no idea the overlapping grids concept could result in challenges like what we got here. Yin-yang and Fences/Slitherlink were probably my favorites. Surprised (in a positive way) at my performance, given how little energy I've had to devote to puzzles in the last month.