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Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier
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Subject: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-08 6:53 AM (#20208) (#20208) Top


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Link for rules and other details about Sudoku Mahabharat : http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/2015-16.asp
Instructions for Outside Variations : http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201512/

mihiryadav
Subject: RE: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-09 11:40 PM (#20216 - in reply to #20208) (#20216) Top




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Not able to deduce anything else....please help



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ghirsch
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-10 12:10 AM (#20217 - in reply to #20208) (#20217) Top




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What can the first building be in rows 1 and 3? That gives you info about row 5 which should help you progress.
mihiryadav
Subject: RE: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-10 1:09 AM (#20218 - in reply to #20208) (#20218) Top




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Thanks....through with it but still stuck in 9x9
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Subject: RE: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-10 1:10 AM (#20219 - in reply to #20208) (#20219) Top




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kishy72
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-10 3:58 AM (#20220 - in reply to #20219) (#20220) Top


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Here's a start that you can focus upon.Digits 7,8 and 9 will be in R1C9/R3C9 and R4C9 in some order.These are the only places these digits can be in the last column.After this ,6 can only be in R6C9 in Column 9 considering the bottom 7 clue.

Edited by kishy72 2015-12-10 4:11 AM
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-10 12:59 PM (#20222 - in reply to #20208) (#20222) Top


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An easier way to look at it - R2,R5 and R9C9 form a 123 triplet, so anything in the other cells of C9 will block R2 and R5C9. Since only two places can be blocked for a 7 clue, these are your two places, and that means the remaining digits have to immediately be in order 4-5-6-7-8-9 in the other cells.
RameshLMI
Subject: RE: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-10 10:39 PM (#20226 - in reply to #20208) (#20226) Top


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Can someone suggest practice puzzles for X Sum Sudokus
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Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-11 8:22 AM (#20227 - in reply to #20208) (#20227) Top


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@RameshLMI
you can check some X Sum puzzle at
http://www.funwithpuzzles.com/2014/07/x-sums-sudoku-daily-sudoku-le...
http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.in/2012/05/puzzle-103-x-sums-sudoku....
However these Sudoku puzzles are with Irregular grid.
Richard
Subject: RE: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-11 10:36 AM (#20228 - in reply to #20226) (#20228) Top


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RameshLMI - 2015-12-10 10:39 PM

Can someone suggest practice puzzles for X Sum Sudokus


I have created one for my Sudoku Variants Series. You can find it here.

And there was a puzzle of this kind in the LMI-test Road to London from last year.

vopani
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-11 12:27 PM (#20229 - in reply to #20208) (#20229) Top


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There is one in this year's WSC IB (Page-15): http://www.wscwpc2015.org/wsc2015_instructions.pdf
It is not Irregular.
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Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-11 11:30 PM (#20231 - in reply to #20208) (#20231) Top




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sorry

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Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-12 2:05 AM (#20232 - in reply to #20208) (#20232) Top



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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


ghirsch
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-12 3:41 AM (#20233 - in reply to #20208) (#20233) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


There were some fun variations here that I hadn't seen before. I especially liked the 2-3 and 2-3-4 sudokus and the X-sums.
kishy72
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-12 4:53 AM (#20234 - in reply to #20208) (#20234) Top


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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


I felt that this test had harder classics and were under-valued compared to the Variants.This probably got accentuated by the fact that I just didn't solve the classics in the way they were meant to be solved.

I was doing the variants really well and suddenly I thought that I had completed all of the variants when actually I had completed only 4 of the 5 variant types . As a result,crossed over to the classics wherein I suffered a lot even at the 'hands' of a 2 pointer.In hindsight,I should have solved the 2-3-4 rather than persisting with the classics a lot.Got to submit a few classics in the dying moments and salvage some points.This test comes in the category of the hard sets like Evergreen(PR) and Maths(SM)

My favourites of the test are X-sums followed by skyscrapers.Really clean solve paths.Variants were really lovely and I enjoyed solving them a lot.Thanks for authoring the set Rishi.

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Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-12 12:40 PM (#20235 - in reply to #20208) (#20235) Top


 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


nice outside variants, some new to me. A standard outside (1-2-3 outside for 9x9) would also have been highly desirable.
vopani
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-12 12:46 PM (#20236 - in reply to #20208) (#20236) Top


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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Had a few stumbles, but enjoyed the set.
Loved the 2-3-4 Outside 9x9

Fred76
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-12 4:23 PM (#20238 - in reply to #20208) (#20238) Top



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Nice test !

Thanks Rishi !
MrLiang
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-12 9:07 PM (#20239 - in reply to #20208) (#20239) Top





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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


I think some classic puzzles in this test are harder than others test. Otherwise, enjoy the outside clues variants, thanks.
Swagatam
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-12 9:30 PM (#20240 - in reply to #20208) (#20240) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice


justinlam3
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-12 10:02 PM (#20241 - in reply to #20208) (#20241) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


detuned
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-13 12:38 AM (#20242 - in reply to #20208) (#20242) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


A good solid test - I couldn't quite get the last puzzle out in time sadly.
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Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-13 6:57 PM (#20252 - in reply to #20208) (#20252) Top


 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-13 10:12 PM (#20253 - in reply to #20208) (#20253) Top


 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


kishy72
Subject: Re: Outside Variations - 12th-14th Dec - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-12-14 12:50 AM (#20255 - in reply to #20208) (#20255) Top


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Strange.We have no contender finishing in the 90-100 range (so far).The Forbidden gap eh?!

100.6 and then a straight 12 points down directly to 88.6.Now, what are the odds of that happening ?!
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