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Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier
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Subject: RE: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-12 12:43 PM (#19317 - in reply to #19297) (#19317) Top




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Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-12 1:48 PM (#19318 - in reply to #19255) (#19318) Top


 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


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Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-12 2:05 PM (#19319 - in reply to #19255) (#19319) Top


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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


That was an absolute feast of sudokus! Thanks Aditi and Prasanna for authoring a wonderful test.The sudokus were hard and testing.If I may add,this test should be a bit harsh on the beginners but it really must provide an excellent challenge to the veteran solvers.I anticipate the number of solvers who complete the test to be much lesser than the previous episode.Overall, this can be treated as an opportunity for the beginners to get some new ideas and understand more about tough sudokus in general.
Repeated Neighbours was the hardest of the lot followed by Touchy and they certainly justified their points worth.I find it difficult to choose my favourites as I enjoyed solving almost all.However,the standouts for me were Renban(7),Quadruple(11) and Thermo(9) in that order .Good to see young Aditi entering into the fray of Indian authors.This bodes well for the future.

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Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-12 2:08 PM (#19320 - in reply to #19255) (#19320) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


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Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-12 2:12 PM (#19321 - in reply to #19255) (#19321) Top


 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


tamz29
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-12 2:21 PM (#19322 - in reply to #19255) (#19322) Top




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Lovely set of sudokus!
I really liked the new gimmick on Quadruple Sudoku.
Am I the only one who found the second Repeated Neighbours very tough?
I thought that puzzle was rather unfairly more difficult than the second-hardest one in the lot.
There's people with 17/18 but have very good times.
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-12 2:27 PM (#19323 - in reply to #19322) (#19323) Top


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tamz29 - 2015-09-12 2:21 PM

Lovely set of sudokus!
I really liked the new gimmick on Quadruple Sudoku.
Am I the only one who found the second Repeated Neighbours very tough?
I thought that puzzle was rather unfairly more difficult than the second-hardest one in the lot.
There's people with 17/18 but have very good times.


It does seem to have been very tough going by the timings. I had both Deb and Rishi solve that one and had no issues (Rishi actually took longer on Touchy and still had a total testing time which was around 2 min more than his time for R1), but I guess it is a big strength for both of them. You need to get three pairs of repeating digits in each quadrant. I think it is possible to get those just by looking at the grid, but Jan Zverina says he missed the middle one and Tiit also says he missed the middle one for a while. So it might just be that. Was your experience of difficulty somewhere else?
tamz29
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-12 7:01 PM (#19325 - in reply to #19323) (#19325) Top




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I just took long to get the insight that there has to be three pairs in each 'region'.
Even knowing that, I ended up bifurcating to get my answer.
Nonetheless, it was a beautiful puzzle, requiring leaps of insight, one I would be happy with if I had wrote it :)
ingmanc
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-12 7:32 PM (#19326 - in reply to #19255) (#19326) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


peluri
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-12 10:12 PM (#19327 - in reply to #19255) (#19327) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-13 12:45 AM (#19328 - in reply to #19255) (#19328) Top


 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


PuzzleScott
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-13 7:07 AM (#19329 - in reply to #19255) (#19329) Top




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Feedback tool hangs for me (flash).
Good variations for the theme.
I personally liked the easy/hard distributiion -- probably too many hard ones for beginners though.
Excellent puzzle quality! Some real delights.
Point values seems pretty fair.
devarajand
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-13 10:43 AM (#19330 - in reply to #19255) (#19330) Top




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Prasanna's class stamped all over, including IB
devarajand
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-13 10:49 AM (#19331 - in reply to #19255) (#19331) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Richard
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-13 12:05 PM (#19332 - in reply to #19255) (#19332) Top


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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


In my opinion, the neighbours theme sees on direct relationships between two orthogonal connected cells. Renban and Quadruple are a little bit off this theme. But: I enjoyed the test very much. Really nice aesthetics and solving routes. Maybe a bit on the hard side for beginners, exactly the right difficulty level for me! Thanks a lot!
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Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-13 12:17 PM (#19333 - in reply to #19255) (#19333) Top





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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-13 12:17 PM (#19334 - in reply to #19330) (#19334) Top


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devarajand - 2015-09-13 10:43 AM

Prasanna's class stamped all over, including IB


Thanks, but the IB is mostly by Deb :) The Repeated Neighbours 9x9 and the Thermo 9x9 at least are from previous contests I remember. Much easier to re-use than re-write for IBs.

Kwaka
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-13 4:52 PM (#19335 - in reply to #19255) (#19335) Top


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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-13 5:22 PM (#19336 - in reply to #19255) (#19336) Top


 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


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Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-13 8:47 PM (#19337 - in reply to #19255) (#19337) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


MrLiang
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-13 9:42 PM (#19338 - in reply to #19255) (#19338) Top





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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-14 12:07 AM (#19339 - in reply to #19255) (#19339) Top



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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Nice puzzles. My top three: Quadruple, Touchy and Repeated Neighbours.

As noted by Richard, technically, Renban and Quadruple do not necesarily belong to 'Neighbours' theme. Also, there is a variant by the name 'Neighbours' which could have been included to represent the theme better.

The rule change in Quadruple came in fairly late and it made the variant tougher too.
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-14 6:05 AM (#19342 - in reply to #19339) (#19342) Top



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rakesh_rai - 2015-09-14 12:07 AM
As noted by Richard, technically, Renban and Quadruple do not necesarily belong to 'Neighbours' theme.
Please elaborate.
rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-14 8:00 AM (#19343 - in reply to #19342) (#19343) Top



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debmohanty - 2015-09-14 6:05 AM

rakesh_rai - 2015-09-14 12:07 AM
As noted by Richard, technically, Renban and Quadruple do not necesarily belong to 'Neighbours' theme.
Please elaborate.

The statement assumes Neighbours being interpreted as "direct relationships between two orthogonal connected cells"
lrani
Subject: Re: Neighbours - 12th-14th Sep - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2015-09-14 8:17 AM (#19344 - in reply to #19255) (#19344) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


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