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@ 2014-05-25 5:13 PM (#15387 - in reply to #15186) (#15387) Top

rajibrborah



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rajibrborah posted @ 2014-05-25 5:13 PM

 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in IPC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the puzzle rules, examples and answer keys from the IB? I understood all of them.
 Did you find enough easy puzzles to solve during the championship? Yes, there were many of them.
 After your experience in IPC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


The rules of the every puzzle should be listed in bullet form.

Each bullet point should have one and only one restriction of the puzzle mentioned in it.

Currently, one instruction statement of the puzzle has multiple restrictions mentioned in it (or all the rules are described in a paragraph format) - increasing the probability of a new-comer to miss one of the multiple restrictions.
(Anyway, some of the statements in the instructions are complicated/convoluted for new comers.
So breaking the instruction statement down into individual bullet points, with one rule per bullet point will make it clearer to new-comers)

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While the participants are supposed to read the rules very carefully, but it does help if the same are listed in bullet-wise fashion so that the solvers (especially new-comers and non-regular-puzzle-solvers) don't miss any facet of the puzzle.

It also makes it easier for non-regular solvers to validate the answers upon submission - by checking against each bullet point.

Edited by rajibrborah 2014-05-25 5:24 PM
@ 2014-05-25 5:18 PM (#15388 - in reply to #15186) (#15388) Top

macherlakumar




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macherlakumar posted @ 2014-05-25 5:18 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice


@ 2014-05-25 5:23 PM (#15389 - in reply to #15387) (#15389) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-05-25 5:23 PM

rajibrborah - 2014-05-25 5:13 PM

The rules of the every puzzle should be listed in bullet form.

Each bullet point should have one and only one restriction of the puzzle mentioned in it.

Currently, one instruction statement of the puzzle has multiple restrictions mentioned in it - increasing the probability of a new-comer to miss one of the multiple restrictions.
(Anyway, some of the statements in the instructions are complicated/convoluted for new comers.
So breaking the instruction statement down into individual bullet points, with one rule per bullet point will make it clearer to new-comers)

= = = =

While the participants are supposed to read the rules very carefully, but it does help if the same are listed in bullet-wise fashion so that the solvers (especially new-comers and non-regular-puzzle-solvers) don't miss any facet of the puzzle.

It also makes it easier for non-regular solvers to validate the answers upon submission - by checking against each bullet point.



Thanks for this feedback. These are very good points. We'll consider them in the future.
@ 2014-05-25 5:24 PM (#15390 - in reply to #15186) (#15390) Top

rvarun



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rvarun posted @ 2014-05-25 5:24 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2014-05-25 5:33 PM (#15391 - in reply to #15186) (#15391) Top

rajeshk




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rajeshk posted @ 2014-05-25 5:33 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2014-05-25 5:42 PM (#15392 - in reply to #15186) (#15392) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-05-25 5:42 PM

Official Results


Congrats to the top 3 -
1. Amit Sowani
2. Rohan Rao
3. Swaroop Guggilam

The Official results can be seen here - http://logicmastersindia.com/2014/IPC/score.asp

As mentioned earlier, the top 10 are eligible for prizes. Please mail me at prasannaseshadri@logicmastersindia.com for claiming prizes/certificate hard copies.

Thanks.

On a personal note, I'm quite happy with the 3 solvers making it to the Indian team.



@ 2014-05-25 5:52 PM (#15393 - in reply to #15392) (#15393) Top

rakesh_rai




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rakesh_rai posted @ 2014-05-25 5:52 PM

Congratulations to all winners.
@ 2014-05-25 5:54 PM (#15394 - in reply to #15186) (#15394) Top

swaroop2011




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swaroop2011 posted @ 2014-05-25 5:54 PM

Congrats Amit for winning the title. Congrats Rohan too.
Finally feeling happy, break through after missing from past 3 years.
Will give detailed comment about test later.

Thanks for awesome puzzles to all authors. Thanks to Deb and Prasanna for organizing so well.
@ 2014-05-25 6:04 PM (#15395 - in reply to #15186) (#15395) Top

macherlakumar




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macherlakumar posted @ 2014-05-25 6:04 PM

Firstly thanks to the organizers and authors for a wonderful test.

Congrats to Amit, Rohan and Swaroop.
Swaroop finally made it no more close miss this time :D

Thanks and Regards,
Ravi
@ 2014-05-25 6:17 PM (#15396 - in reply to #15186) (#15396) Top

megu



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megu posted @ 2014-05-25 6:17 PM

I have a query in A2 Match the following puzzle. I have submitted the answer as ZYWX and I haven't got any points for that.

I arrived at the result as follows:
2 + 3 x 6 / 9 = 4
4 x 5 / 2 - 7 = 3
5 x 3 - 9 / 6 = 1
6 / 2 + 7 - 8 = 2

What is the right answer?

Edited by megu 2014-05-25 6:18 PM
@ 2014-05-25 6:23 PM (#15397 - in reply to #15396) (#15397) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-05-25 6:23 PM

Megu3 - 2014-05-25 6:17 PM

I have a query in A2 Match the following puzzle. I have submitted the answer as ZYWX and I haven't got any points for that.

I arrived at the result as follows:
2 + 3 x 6 / 9 = 4
4 x 5 / 2 - 7 = 3
5 x 3 - 9 / 6 = 1
6 / 2 + 7 - 8 = 2

What is the right answer?


Without releasing right answer yet, I'll give you a chance to solve it yourself. You've missed the rule that operator precedence is followed, i.e., Multiplication and division are done before addition and subtraction. So your equation for 1 will actually become 15 - 1.5, not 6/6.
@ 2014-05-25 6:24 PM (#15398 - in reply to #15396) (#15398) Top

macherlakumar




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macherlakumar posted @ 2014-05-25 6:24 PM

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5 x 3 - 9 / 6 is (5 x 3) - (9/6) = 15-(3/2) = 13.5

Regards,
Ravi

Edited by debmohanty 2014-05-25 7:44 PM
@ 2014-05-25 6:24 PM (#15399 - in reply to #15396) (#15399) Top

achan1058



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achan1058 posted @ 2014-05-25 6:24 PM

Equation 3 is wrong, since you need to respect the order of operations, which gets you 13.5.

Edited by achan1058 2014-05-25 6:25 PM
@ 2014-05-25 6:31 PM (#15400 - in reply to #15186) (#15400) Top

An LMI player



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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2014-05-25 6:48 PM (#15401 - in reply to #15186) (#15401) Top

greenhorn



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greenhorn posted @ 2014-05-25 6:48 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


Some grids were too large. Everything else was great. Thanks for the puzzles :)
@ 2014-05-25 7:01 PM (#15402 - in reply to #15186) (#15402) Top

lenson




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lenson posted @ 2014-05-25 7:01 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2014-05-25 7:09 PM (#15403 - in reply to #15397) (#15403) Top

megu



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megu posted @ 2014-05-25 7:09 PM

Oh! I get it now! How silly of me!

I applied the operator precedence rule in other 3 parts and failed at one part.

I solved it now, I hope I have got it right this time:
2 + 3 x 6 / 9 = 4
4 - 5 x 2 + 7 = 1
5 - 3 / 9 x 6 = 3
6 / 2 + 7 - 8 = 2

I will have to keep in mind to re-check everything before submission for future contests, however few puzzles I am able to finish.

Thank you for the reply. Also thanks to the other two people who replied.

@ 2014-05-25 7:59 PM (#15404 - in reply to #15186) (#15404) Top

wgryciuk



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wgryciuk posted @ 2014-05-25 7:59 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2014-05-25 10:06 PM (#15406 - in reply to #15186) (#15406) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2014-05-25 10:06 PM

 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in IPC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the puzzle rules, examples and answer keys from the IB? I understood all of them.
 Did you find enough easy puzzles to solve during the championship? No, there were really few easy puzzles.
 After your experience in IPC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


@ 2014-05-25 11:55 PM (#15408 - in reply to #15186) (#15408) Top

rajeshk




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rajeshk posted @ 2014-05-25 11:55 PM

Congrats to all the winners.
Well Done Amit with great performance.

@ 2014-05-26 3:22 AM (#15410 - in reply to #15186) (#15410) Top

swaroop2011




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swaroop2011 posted @ 2014-05-26 3:22 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2014-05-26 7:53 AM (#15411 - in reply to #15186) (#15411) Top

devarajand



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devarajand posted @ 2014-05-26 7:53 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2014-05-26 8:02 AM (#15412 - in reply to #15186) (#15412) Top

devarajand



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devarajand posted @ 2014-05-26 8:02 AM

In E1 Star battle my logic went like this.

1. Every region need to have 6 stars.
2. At C2 there must be a stars.
3. The same region holds 2 stars at column A and D.
4. So one star must be at B or C9.
5. The other small region holds 2 stars at column F and H.
6. One star at G 5/6/7.
7. One at I 2/3.
But i wasted hell of time and could not finish the puzzle. Can any one guide me were I went wrong.
@ 2014-05-26 8:08 AM (#15413 - in reply to #15412) (#15413) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-05-26 8:08 AM

devarajand - 2014-05-26 8:02 AM

In E1 Star battle my logic went like this.

1. Every region need to have 6 stars.
2. At C2 there must be a stars.
3. The same region holds 2 stars at column A and D.
4. So one star must be at B or C9.
5. The other small region holds 2 stars at column F and H.
6. One star at G 5/6/7.
7. One at I 2/3.
But i wasted hell of time and could not finish the puzzle. Can any one guide me were I went wrong.


You haven't gone wrong anywhere so far, but you can reduce things more. Remember that there can be only one star for each 2x2 area of cells. Dividing the "K" shape into this distribution helps - 1 star in I23/H3. 1 star in H34. 1 star in F34. One star in F56/G56. One star in F78. One star in H78. (G7 cannot be a star because you need 2 stars in F78/G7/H78 and this will contradict things). You should be able to reduce it further from here.
@ 2014-05-26 8:33 AM (#15414 - in reply to #15186) (#15414) Top

spelvin



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spelvin posted @ 2014-05-26 8:33 AM

I'm embarrassed, but I have no idea how the matching rule was supposed to work for A4. Can someone put me out of my misery?
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