Thread - Sequence of Sudokus/Puzzles in tests

@ 2011-12-16 2:45 PM (#6194) (#6194) Top

utkaarsh

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Country : India

utkaarsh posted @ 2011-12-16 2:45 PM

In the test pdf, is it preferable to have sudokus/puzzles ordered by level of difficulty (points), does it make a considerable difference or is it good to have but not necesary option for solvers, please let us know your views

@ 2011-12-16 3:24 PM (#6195 - in reply to #6194) (#6195) Top

debmohanty

Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-12-16 3:24 PM

Good question Utkarash. I know you had posted about this earlier too.

Lets see what others think.

@ 2011-12-16 3:32 PM (#6196 - in reply to #6194) (#6196) Top

debmohanty

Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-12-16 3:32 PM

Oh, by the way, I've my own set of problems regarding why my sets are never sequenced with respect to difficulty / points.

@ 2011-12-16 4:09 PM (#6197 - in reply to #6196) (#6197) Top

utkaarsh

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Country : India

utkaarsh posted @ 2011-12-16 4:09 PM

Fair, if this adds up to trouble to authors, then we as solvers can do it maunally at our end, only if each page would have just one sudoku/puzzle, , which is in most cases but not every ( correct me if i am wrong )

@ 2011-12-16 4:28 PM (#6198 - in reply to #6194) (#6198) Top

debmohanty

Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-12-16 4:28 PM

My statement was bit hazy in the sense I didn't explain my problem.

When I send the IB and PB to test-solvers, I always don't know the points distribution, although I've a fair idea of the difficulties. After the test-solvers finish testing, I start points distribution, but at this point I don't want to make wholesale changes to the pdf. I just feel that the pdf has been tested properly, and more changes means more source of errors. I just add points for each puzzle, and lock the pdf.

I don't think that is the case with all authors. So if many players think that "sequencing the puzzles in order of difficulty" is suitable to solving, we can put a request to all authors to follow that. But I'm not sure if we can make it a rule.

[ Moving this to polls section, since this thread will get lost once the test starts ]

Edited by debmohanty 2011-12-16 4:28 PM

@ 2011-12-16 6:50 PM (#6201 - in reply to #6198) (#6201) Top

Richard

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Country : The Netherlands

Richard posted @ 2011-12-16 6:50 PM

For the January sudoku test I have written, I used categories to define the sequence of the puzzles, and also sizes. I don't think it would have been easy to put the puzzles in an increasing-points-order, other than putting just one puzzle per page. But it crossed my mind to do so. Maybe for future tests I will keep it in mind.

In my case the points distribution I had in mind before it was tested was different than the average of all testers showed. But I am not such a quick solver anyway.

Regards, Richard

Sequence of Sudokus/Puzzles in tests
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Sudokus/Puzzles in the pdf should be ordered by points (difficulty)	utkaarsh	1 Votes - [16.67%]
It is not ncecessary but will be good if done	utkaarsh	3 Votes - [50%]
I am indifferent to the sequencing of puzzles in the pdf	utkaarsh	2 Votes - [33.33%]
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	@ 2011-12-16 2:45 PM (#6194) (#6194) Top
utkaarsh Posts: 89 Country : India	utkaarsh posted @ 2011-12-16 2:45 PM In the test pdf, is it preferable to have sudokus/puzzles ordered by level of difficulty (points), does it make a considerable difference or is it good to have but not necesary option for solvers, please let us know your views
	@ 2011-12-16 3:24 PM (#6195 - in reply to #6194) (#6195) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-12-16 3:24 PM Good question Utkarash. I know you had posted about this earlier too. Lets see what others think.
	@ 2011-12-16 3:32 PM (#6196 - in reply to #6194) (#6196) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-12-16 3:32 PM Oh, by the way, I've my own set of problems regarding why my sets are never sequenced with respect to difficulty / points.
	@ 2011-12-16 4:09 PM (#6197 - in reply to #6196) (#6197) Top
utkaarsh Posts: 89 Country : India	utkaarsh posted @ 2011-12-16 4:09 PM Fair, if this adds up to trouble to authors, then we as solvers can do it maunally at our end, only if each page would have just one sudoku/puzzle, , which is in most cases but not every ( correct me if i am wrong )
	@ 2011-12-16 4:28 PM (#6198 - in reply to #6194) (#6198) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-12-16 4:28 PM My statement was bit hazy in the sense I didn't explain my problem. When I send the IB and PB to test-solvers, I always don't know the points distribution, although I've a fair idea of the difficulties. After the test-solvers finish testing, I start points distribution, but at this point I don't want to make wholesale changes to the pdf. I just feel that the pdf has been tested properly, and more changes means more source of errors. I just add points for each puzzle, and lock the pdf. I don't think that is the case with all authors. So if many players think that "sequencing the puzzles in order of difficulty" is suitable to solving, we can put a request to all authors to follow that. But I'm not sure if we can make it a rule. [ Moving this to polls section, since this thread will get lost once the test starts ] Edited by debmohanty 2011-12-16 4:28 PM
	@ 2011-12-16 6:50 PM (#6201 - in reply to #6198) (#6201) Top
Richard Posts: 191 Country : The Netherlands	Richard posted @ 2011-12-16 6:50 PM For the January sudoku test I have written, I used categories to define the sequence of the puzzles, and also sizes. I don't think it would have been easy to put the puzzles in an increasing-points-order, other than putting just one puzzle per page. But it crossed my mind to do so. Maybe for future tests I will keep it in mind. In my case the points distribution I had in mind before it was tested was different than the average of all testers showed. But I am not such a quick solver anyway. Regards, Richard