Thread - WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Indian Round

@ 2013-01-31 10:32 AM (#9632 - in reply to #9566) (#9632) Top

devarajand

Posts: 114

Country : India

devarajand posted @ 2013-01-31 10:32 AM

Is it online solving

@ 2013-01-31 10:39 AM (#9633 - in reply to #9632) (#9633) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2013-01-31 10:39 AM

devarajand - 2013-01-31 10:32 AM

Is it online solving

Yes, online solving will be enabled.
However, please note that for some sudokus you might need external marking (e.g. Coded Pairs). You cannot do those kind of markings with online solving.

@ 2013-01-31 2:28 PM (#9635 - in reply to #9566) (#9635) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2013-01-31 2:28 PM

Rules in Chinese available here - http://www.sudokufans.org.cn/forums/topic/1070/

@ 2013-02-01 7:05 PM (#9647 - in reply to #9566) (#9647) Top

meowme

Posts: 9

Country : Singapore

meowme posted @ 2013-02-01 7:05 PM

May I ask how we will need to do external marking? Since the sudoku type in question has all necessary markings already given to us in the puzzle.

@ 2013-02-01 11:17 PM (#9651 - in reply to #9647) (#9651) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2013-02-01 11:17 PM

meowme - 2013-02-01 7:05 PM

May I ask how we will need to do external marking? Since the sudoku type in question has all necessary markings already given to us in the puzzle.

What I meant was :
In coded pair, you might want to write A = 23 somewhere. If you are solving on paper, taking these notes are obviously easy, but there is no facility to note such things in in online solving.
Similarly you might want to draw a line in Linked Classics between the duplicates rows across the grids.

@ 2013-02-02 1:26 PM (#9653 - in reply to #9566) (#9653) Top

Mahyar

Posts: 8

Country : Iran

Mahyar posted @ 2013-02-02 1:26 PM

I have problem with Puzzle "Coded Pair".
In letters C and B, number 1 is common. I want to know that in different letters, all the pair numbers should be different or one them can be equal like the example?
i.e. you mean that only pairs "should not be equal" and if one number in the pair become equal, it is possible.

@ 2013-02-02 3:00 PM (#9655 - in reply to #9653) (#9655) Top

debmohanty

Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2013-02-02 3:00 PM

Mahyar - 2013-02-02 1:26 PM

I have problem with Puzzle "Coded Pair".
In letters C and B, number 1 is common. I want to know that in different letters, all the pair numbers should be different or one them can be equal like the example?
i.e. you mean that only pairs "should not be equal" and if one number in the pair become equal, it is possible.

As replied in above post, 2 letters can have 1 common digit. But both the digits can not be same for 2 letters.

If letter D represents 56(or 65), letter C cannot be 56. Letter C can however be 15 or 26 (or 34) or whatever else.

@ 2013-02-02 3:04 PM (#9656 - in reply to #9655) (#9656) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2013-02-02 3:04 PM

Points table published

The IB has been updated to include Points table.

Download link : Here

Please note : two sudokus are removed. So the number of sudokus is 18 now.

@ 2013-02-02 3:25 PM (#9657 - in reply to #9566) (#9657) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2013-02-02 3:25 PM

Linking with WPF Sudoku GP registration

Here is how you can link you LMI registration and WPF Grand Prix registration (http://www.worldpuzzle.org/sudokugp/).

When you login in the submission page, you will get a pop up window as shown below.

3 options are listed. Choose one of the options and click on Save
Option 1 ) You can specify your email id for WPF registration. (By default your registered email address with LMI is shown. Edit it as needed.)
Option 2 ) You can specify your Nick name for WPF registration. (By default your username at LMI is shown. Edit it as needed.)
Option 3 ) Choose this option if you have not registered at WPF. In that case, we will keep showing the pop up every time you visit the submission page.

@ 2013-02-02 5:44 PM (#9658 - in reply to #9566) (#9658) Top

Mahyar

Posts: 8

Country : Iran

Mahyar posted @ 2013-02-02 5:44 PM

Sorry, Is the time 2 Hour's like before? Or it will decrease?

@ 2013-02-02 6:24 PM (#9659 - in reply to #9658) (#9659) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2013-02-02 6:24 PM

Mahyar - 2013-02-02 5:44 PM

Sorry, Is the time 2 Hour's like before? Or it will decrease?

It is still 2 hours.

@ 2013-02-03 8:54 AM (#9667 - in reply to #9566) (#9667) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2013-02-03 8:54 AM

Online Solving Enabled

We have now enabled online solving of all the examples. Check the submission page for details.

As noted earlier, the flash online solving will only allow you to mark / unmark 1-9 on the grids. There is no feature to mark anything else.
For Braille Sudoku, the left grid is disabled, and you can solve only on the right grid.

Based on previous LMI tests, we think most players will solve on paper and not use the online solving interface. However, if you are one of those who plan to use online solving, you must practice solving as many examples as you can using the online interface. And if you are already familiar with the flash interface, you should still check it out because the layout of the sudokus is different (and hopefully more friendly) than previous tests.

@ 2013-02-03 3:57 PM (#9669 - in reply to #9667) (#9669) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2013-02-03 3:57 PM

Instructions Booklet in Persian

Instructions Booklet in Persian can be downloaded here.

Many thanks to Mahyar Asadi of http://bia2sudoku.blogfa.com

@ 2013-02-03 6:06 PM (#9670 - in reply to #9566) (#9670) Top

dp_94

Posts: 25

Country : India

dp_94 posted @ 2013-02-03 6:06 PM

hi, can anyone give me some links to practice 6x6 braille,coded pair sudokus

@ 2013-02-03 6:38 PM (#9671 - in reply to #9670) (#9671) Top

dodine

Posts: 5

Country : Luxembourg

dodine posted @ 2013-02-03 6:38 PM

Hello
I will be on holiday during the competition and if I want to participate I have to solve it online because I am not able to print the sudokus. Can anybody give me some hints for the online solving? How do you erase one number of the pencil marks?

@ 2013-02-03 6:49 PM (#9672 - in reply to #9671) (#9672) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2013-02-03 6:49 PM

Hi Claudine, Please check this post in the F.A.Q. page. Hope it helps.

@ 2013-02-03 7:50 PM (#9673 - in reply to #9566) (#9673) Top

dodine

Posts: 5

Country : Luxembourg

dodine posted @ 2013-02-03 7:50 PM

Thank you very much.

@ 2013-02-04 3:26 AM (#9677 - in reply to #9566) (#9677) Top

Karel Tesar

Posts: 28

Country : Czech Republic

Karel Tesar posted @ 2013-02-04 3:26 AM

Would you like to practice on LMI WPF GP? We are preparing for you these sudoku variants:
04.02.2013 - Renban Groups (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)
05.02.2013 - Coded Pair (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)
06.02.2013 - Repeated Neighbours (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)
07.02.2013 - Thermo-sudoku (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)
08.02.2013 - Odd Even Frame (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)
09.02.2013 - Disjoint Groups (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)
10.02.2013 - Diagonal Sudoku (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)

http://sudokucup.com/node/1901

@ 2013-02-04 5:50 AM (#9679 - in reply to #9677) (#9679) Top

Fred76

Posts: 337

Country : Switzerland

Fred76 posted @ 2013-02-04 5:50 AM

Karel Tesar - 2013-02-04 3:26 AM

Would you like to practice on LMI WPF GP? We are preparing for you these sudoku variants:
04.02.2013 - Renban Groups (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)
05.02.2013 - Coded Pair (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)
06.02.2013 - Repeated Neighbours (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)
07.02.2013 - Thermo-sudoku (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)
08.02.2013 - Odd Even Frame (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)
09.02.2013 - Disjoint Groups (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)
10.02.2013 - Diagonal Sudoku (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP)

http://sudokucup.com/node/1901

It's the occasion to see Deb playing

@ 2013-02-07 11:44 PM (#9787 - in reply to #9566) (#9787) Top

zalak

Posts: 23

Country : India

zalak posted @ 2013-02-07 11:44 PM

In Braille Sudoku, I am not able to go beyond the two 7s. Can anyone please help me find the next step.

(braille.png)

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@ 2013-02-08 12:10 AM (#9788 - in reply to #9787) (#9788) Top

Nicky

Posts: 2

Country : Czech Republic

Nicky posted @ 2013-02-08 12:10 AM

Zalak, in this position you should already know which 6 numbers (out of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9) are used in this sudoku 6x6. Have a look at the first row (there are 3 clear numbers - 7, 6 and 9). And then 5th rectangle (there is a quartet 4, 5, 7 and 8). Thus you know that you work only with these numbers in the whole sudoku and some your pencilmarks are needed to be erased :-)

@ 2013-02-08 10:09 AM (#9791 - in reply to #9566) (#9791) Top

zalak

Posts: 23

Country : India

zalak posted @ 2013-02-08 10:09 AM

Thanks a lot Nicky!! I was not interpreting the rules correctly. I wrongly assumed that each 2x3 box would have a different set of six numbers.

@ 2013-02-08 5:37 PM (#9795 - in reply to #9566) (#9795) Top

Kota

Posts: 33

Country : Japan

Kota posted @ 2013-02-08 5:37 PM

In Outside Or Skyscraper
Does the each digit outside the grid show the ONLY clue(outside or skyscraper)? Mustn't the each digit match BOTH clues?

@ 2013-02-08 5:58 PM (#9796 - in reply to #9566) (#9796) Top

Ours brun

Posts: 148

Country : France

Ours brun posted @ 2013-02-08 5:58 PM

Hi Kota,

Each clue must fulfill at least one of the rules. It may be that it fullfills both, but there is no obligation. Anyway, you don't need to worry about that anymore since this puzzle has been removed in the last version of the IB.

@ 2013-02-08 6:16 PM (#9797 - in reply to #9796) (#9797) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2013-02-08 6:16 PM

Clarification on Odd Even Frame

Outside/Skyscraper is out, but the same rule applies for Odd Even Frame as well. That is, each clue must fulfill at least one of the sums. It may fulfill both, but there is no obligation.
For example, if 4 is the clue outside, the first 3 digits could be 1,3,4 in any order.
This has been clarified earlier.


	@ 2013-01-31 10:32 AM (#9632 - in reply to #9566) (#9632) Top
devarajand Posts: 114 Country : India	devarajand posted @ 2013-01-31 10:32 AM Is it online solving
	@ 2013-01-31 10:39 AM (#9633 - in reply to #9632) (#9633) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2013-01-31 10:39 AM devarajand - 2013-01-31 10:32 AM Is it online solving Yes, online solving will be enabled. However, please note that for some sudokus you might need external marking (e.g. Coded Pairs). You cannot do those kind of markings with online solving.
	@ 2013-01-31 2:28 PM (#9635 - in reply to #9566) (#9635) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2013-01-31 2:28 PM Rules in Chinese available here - http://www.sudokufans.org.cn/forums/topic/1070/
	@ 2013-02-01 7:05 PM (#9647 - in reply to #9566) (#9647) Top
meowme Posts: 9 Country : Singapore	meowme posted @ 2013-02-01 7:05 PM May I ask how we will need to do external marking? Since the sudoku type in question has all necessary markings already given to us in the puzzle.
	@ 2013-02-01 11:17 PM (#9651 - in reply to #9647) (#9651) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2013-02-01 11:17 PM meowme - 2013-02-01 7:05 PM May I ask how we will need to do external marking? Since the sudoku type in question has all necessary markings already given to us in the puzzle. What I meant was : In coded pair, you might want to write A = 23 somewhere. If you are solving on paper, taking these notes are obviously easy, but there is no facility to note such things in in online solving. Similarly you might want to draw a line in Linked Classics between the duplicates rows across the grids.
	@ 2013-02-02 1:26 PM (#9653 - in reply to #9566) (#9653) Top
Mahyar Posts: 8 Country : Iran	Mahyar posted @ 2013-02-02 1:26 PM I have problem with Puzzle "Coded Pair". In letters C and B, number 1 is common. I want to know that in different letters, all the pair numbers should be different or one them can be equal like the example? i.e. you mean that only pairs "should not be equal" and if one number in the pair become equal, it is possible.
	@ 2013-02-02 3:00 PM (#9655 - in reply to #9653) (#9655) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2013-02-02 3:00 PM Mahyar - 2013-02-02 1:26 PM I have problem with Puzzle "Coded Pair". In letters C and B, number 1 is common. I want to know that in different letters, all the pair numbers should be different or one them can be equal like the example? i.e. you mean that only pairs "should not be equal" and if one number in the pair become equal, it is possible. As replied in above post, 2 letters can have 1 common digit. But both the digits can not be same for 2 letters. If letter D represents 56(or 65), letter C cannot be 56. Letter C can however be 15 or 26 (or 34) or whatever else.
	@ 2013-02-02 3:04 PM (#9656 - in reply to #9655) (#9656) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2013-02-02 3:04 PM Points table published The IB has been updated to include Points table. Download link : Here Please note : two sudokus are removed. So the number of sudokus is 18 now.
	@ 2013-02-02 3:25 PM (#9657 - in reply to #9566) (#9657) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2013-02-02 3:25 PM Linking with WPF Sudoku GP registration Here is how you can link you LMI registration and WPF Grand Prix registration (http://www.worldpuzzle.org/sudokugp/). When you login in the submission page, you will get a pop up window as shown below. 3 options are listed. Choose one of the options and click on Save Option 1 ) You can specify your email id for WPF registration. (By default your registered email address with LMI is shown. Edit it as needed.) Option 2 ) You can specify your Nick name for WPF registration. (By default your username at LMI is shown. Edit it as needed.) Option 3 ) Choose this option if you have not registered at WPF. In that case, we will keep showing the pop up every time you visit the submission page.
	@ 2013-02-02 5:44 PM (#9658 - in reply to #9566) (#9658) Top
Mahyar Posts: 8 Country : Iran	Mahyar posted @ 2013-02-02 5:44 PM Sorry, Is the time 2 Hour's like before? Or it will decrease?
	@ 2013-02-02 6:24 PM (#9659 - in reply to #9658) (#9659) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2013-02-02 6:24 PM Mahyar - 2013-02-02 5:44 PM Sorry, Is the time 2 Hour's like before? Or it will decrease? It is still 2 hours.
	@ 2013-02-03 8:54 AM (#9667 - in reply to #9566) (#9667) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2013-02-03 8:54 AM Online Solving Enabled We have now enabled online solving of all the examples. Check the submission page for details. As noted earlier, the flash online solving will only allow you to mark / unmark 1-9 on the grids. There is no feature to mark anything else. For Braille Sudoku, the left grid is disabled, and you can solve only on the right grid. Based on previous LMI tests, we think most players will solve on paper and not use the online solving interface. However, if you are one of those who plan to use online solving, you must practice solving as many examples as you can using the online interface. And if you are already familiar with the flash interface, you should still check it out because the layout of the sudokus is different (and hopefully more friendly) than previous tests.
	@ 2013-02-03 3:57 PM (#9669 - in reply to #9667) (#9669) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2013-02-03 3:57 PM Instructions Booklet in Persian Instructions Booklet in Persian can be downloaded here. Many thanks to Mahyar Asadi of http://bia2sudoku.blogfa.com
	@ 2013-02-03 6:06 PM (#9670 - in reply to #9566) (#9670) Top
dp_94 Posts: 25 Country : India	dp_94 posted @ 2013-02-03 6:06 PM hi, can anyone give me some links to practice 6x6 braille,coded pair sudokus
	@ 2013-02-03 6:38 PM (#9671 - in reply to #9670) (#9671) Top
dodine Posts: 5 Country : Luxembourg	dodine posted @ 2013-02-03 6:38 PM Hello I will be on holiday during the competition and if I want to participate I have to solve it online because I am not able to print the sudokus. Can anybody give me some hints for the online solving? How do you erase one number of the pencil marks?
	@ 2013-02-03 6:49 PM (#9672 - in reply to #9671) (#9672) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2013-02-03 6:49 PM Hi Claudine, Please check this post in the F.A.Q. page. Hope it helps.
	@ 2013-02-03 7:50 PM (#9673 - in reply to #9566) (#9673) Top
dodine Posts: 5 Country : Luxembourg	dodine posted @ 2013-02-03 7:50 PM Thank you very much.
	@ 2013-02-04 3:26 AM (#9677 - in reply to #9566) (#9677) Top
Karel Tesar Posts: 28 Country : Czech Republic	Karel Tesar posted @ 2013-02-04 3:26 AM Would you like to practice on LMI WPF GP? We are preparing for you these sudoku variants: 04.02.2013 - Renban Groups (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) 05.02.2013 - Coded Pair (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) 06.02.2013 - Repeated Neighbours (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) 07.02.2013 - Thermo-sudoku (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) 08.02.2013 - Odd Even Frame (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) 09.02.2013 - Disjoint Groups (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) 10.02.2013 - Diagonal Sudoku (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) http://sudokucup.com/node/1901
	@ 2013-02-04 5:50 AM (#9679 - in reply to #9677) (#9679) Top
Fred76 Posts: 337 Country : Switzerland	Fred76 posted @ 2013-02-04 5:50 AM Karel Tesar - 2013-02-04 3:26 AM Would you like to practice on LMI WPF GP? We are preparing for you these sudoku variants: 04.02.2013 - Renban Groups (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) 05.02.2013 - Coded Pair (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) 06.02.2013 - Repeated Neighbours (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) 07.02.2013 - Thermo-sudoku (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) 08.02.2013 - Odd Even Frame (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) 09.02.2013 - Disjoint Groups (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) 10.02.2013 - Diagonal Sudoku (practice on LMI WPF Sudoku GP) http://sudokucup.com/node/1901 It's the occasion to see Deb playing
	@ 2013-02-07 11:44 PM (#9787 - in reply to #9566) (#9787) Top
zalak Posts: 23 Country : India	zalak posted @ 2013-02-07 11:44 PM In Braille Sudoku, I am not able to go beyond the two 7s. Can anyone please help me find the next step. (braille.png) Attachments ---------------- braille.png (6KB - 2 downloads)
	@ 2013-02-08 12:10 AM (#9788 - in reply to #9787) (#9788) Top
Nicky Posts: 2 Country : Czech Republic	Nicky posted @ 2013-02-08 12:10 AM Zalak, in this position you should already know which 6 numbers (out of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9) are used in this sudoku 6x6. Have a look at the first row (there are 3 clear numbers - 7, 6 and 9). And then 5th rectangle (there is a quartet 4, 5, 7 and 8). Thus you know that you work only with these numbers in the whole sudoku and some your pencilmarks are needed to be erased :-)
	@ 2013-02-08 10:09 AM (#9791 - in reply to #9566) (#9791) Top
zalak Posts: 23 Country : India	zalak posted @ 2013-02-08 10:09 AM Thanks a lot Nicky!! I was not interpreting the rules correctly. I wrongly assumed that each 2x3 box would have a different set of six numbers.
	@ 2013-02-08 5:37 PM (#9795 - in reply to #9566) (#9795) Top
Kota Posts: 33 Country : Japan	Kota posted @ 2013-02-08 5:37 PM In Outside Or Skyscraper Does the each digit outside the grid show the ONLY clue(outside or skyscraper)? Mustn't the each digit match BOTH clues?
	@ 2013-02-08 5:58 PM (#9796 - in reply to #9566) (#9796) Top
Ours brun Posts: 148 Country : France	Ours brun posted @ 2013-02-08 5:58 PM Hi Kota, Each clue must fulfill at least one of the rules. It may be that it fullfills both, but there is no obligation. Anyway, you don't need to worry about that anymore since this puzzle has been removed in the last version of the IB.
	@ 2013-02-08 6:16 PM (#9797 - in reply to #9796) (#9797) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2013-02-08 6:16 PM Clarification on Odd Even Frame Outside/Skyscraper is out, but the same rule applies for Odd Even Frame as well. That is, each clue must fulfill at least one of the sums. It may fulfill both, but there is no obligation. For example, if 4 is the clue outside, the first 3 digits could be 1,3,4 in any order. This has been clarified earlier.