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Classics vs. Innovatives — LMI August Sudoku Test — 4th - 6th August58 posts • Page 1 of 3 • 1 2 3
@ 2012-08-02 8:36 AM (#8092 - in reply to #8048) (#8092) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-08-02 8:36 AM

Instructions booklet in Japanese

Link to Instructions booklet in Japanese





Edited by debmohanty 2012-08-02 7:29 PM
@ 2012-08-02 11:14 AM (#8093 - in reply to #8048) (#8093) Top

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abhi265645 posted @ 2012-08-02 11:14 AM

i solved two innovations from instruction booklet - 1. even sandwich and 2. coordinates. . both are superb puzzle. .
@ 2012-08-02 3:19 PM (#8094 - in reply to #8048) (#8094) Top

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suryadevi posted @ 2012-08-02 3:19 PM

How can play the sudoku puzzles any please tell me.
@ 2012-08-02 3:33 PM (#8095 - in reply to #8094) (#8095) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-08-02 3:33 PM

suryadevi - 2012-08-02 3:19 PM

How can play the sudoku puzzles any please tell me.


Thats a really vague question. Do you want tips on how to solve? If so, do post a specific grid on the forum where you're having trouble, and one of us will surely help. Do you want to know how to participate in the Classics vs Innovatives contest? Read through this topic - http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=381, I think it covers everything. If you still have doubts feel free to post again.
@ 2012-08-02 7:04 PM (#8096 - in reply to #8069) (#8096) Top

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kritz@martin posted @ 2012-08-02 7:04 PM

hey!! im a new entrant cn sum1 plzz temme also bought the classic n innovatives dat starts in 34hrs cuz i jst finished exams n wanna chillax so where else but doing sudokus!! so be my guest!! whoever see's dis pls reply!!
@ 2012-08-02 7:22 PM (#8097 - in reply to #8096) (#8097) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-08-02 7:22 PM

kritz@martin - 2012-08-02 7:04 PM

hey!! im a new entrant cn sum1 plzz temme also bought the classic n innovatives dat starts in 34hrs cuz i jst finished exams n wanna chillax so where else but doing sudokus!! so be my guest!! whoever see's dis pls reply!!


Thats a really vague question. Do you want tips on how to solve? If so, do post a specific grid on the forum where you're having trouble, and one of us will surely help. Do you want to know how to participate in the Classics vs Innovatives contest? Read through this topic - http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=381, I think it covers everything. If you still have doubts feel free to post again.

@ 2012-08-04 3:48 AM (#8100 - in reply to #8048) (#8100) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-08-04 3:48 AM

Announcements


1. Password protected pdf is uploaded. It has 8 pages, there is no cover page / points table. Each page has two sudokus.
2. As announced earlier, there is no online solving in this test.
3. Link to score page : http://logicmastersindia.com/M201208S/score.asp

@ 2012-08-04 9:02 PM (#8102 - in reply to #8048) (#8102) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-08-04 9:02 PM

Nice test this time. I would have to still improve of a lot though.
Thanks to authors and LMI for organizing test and such beautiful puzzles. I really liked the innovatives and will solve the remaining later. :)


Edited by swaroop2011 2012-08-04 9:16 PM
@ 2012-08-05 10:37 AM (#8103 - in reply to #8048) (#8103) Top

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devarajand posted @ 2012-08-05 10:37 AM

I was unable to print. Just i got blank pages. May be i used black ink only option. I submitted the answer for C3 in C2 .
@ 2012-08-05 10:39 AM (#8104 - in reply to #8103) (#8104) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-08-05 10:39 AM

devarajand - 2012-08-05 10:37 AM
I was unable to print. Just i got blank pages. May be i used black ink only option.
Did anyone else face this problem?

devarajand - 2012-08-05 10:37 AM
I submitted the answer for C3 in C2 .
You get points for this. Refresh score page.
@ 2012-08-05 1:11 PM (#8105 - in reply to #8048) (#8105) Top

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krisram posted @ 2012-08-05 1:11 PM

I have been struggling to see any sudoku puzzles after I start the test ... There is no flash page to solve it in online mode available in the link,
http://logicmastersindia.com/M201208S/

However, I am able to download the pdf but since I don't have a printer, I cannot print it out and solve it. It's more than 20 mins already since I started the test and it's really frustrating not able to solve it.
@ 2012-08-05 1:21 PM (#8106 - in reply to #8105) (#8106) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-08-05 1:21 PM

krisram - 2012-08-05 1:11 PM

I have been struggling to see any sudoku puzzles after I start the test ... There is no flash page to solve it in online mode available in the link,
http://logicmastersindia.com/M201208S/

However, I am able to download the pdf but since I don't have a printer, I cannot print it out and solve it. It's more than 20 mins already since I started the test and it's really frustrating not able to solve it.
Hi krisram, We had announced (here and here earlier in this thread) that there won't be any online solving this time because of some complex sudokus.
@ 2012-08-05 3:47 PM (#8107 - in reply to #8048) (#8107) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-08-05 3:47 PM

I liked most of the grids. Hit a road block in between, but got through a bit at the end thankfully.
@ 2012-08-05 7:17 PM (#8111 - in reply to #8048) (#8111) Top

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anurag posted @ 2012-08-05 7:17 PM

Capsules is a great variation.
@ 2012-08-05 7:22 PM (#8112 - in reply to #8111) (#8112) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-08-05 7:22 PM

anurag - 2012-08-05 7:17 PM

Capsules is a great variation.
It has been appearing with different names for a while now. For example, it appeared as Odd Sum Pair in WSC 2008.
@ 2012-08-06 12:23 AM (#8121 - in reply to #8048) (#8121) Top

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motris posted @ 2012-08-06 12:23 AM

Absolutely beautiful and elegant puzzles, whether you are a fan of classics or innovatives. Thanks so much for this incredible test.
@ 2012-08-06 3:56 AM (#8123 - in reply to #8048) (#8123) Top

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mtronic posted @ 2012-08-06 3:56 AM

I have trouble with the killer sudoku in Instruction booklet. Looks like the font used for the cage sum (Swiss??) is not embedded into the document. I'm afraid it will be the same in the puzzle file. And I might have more things missing, this one is quite obvious.
@ 2012-08-06 12:54 PM (#8125 - in reply to #8048) (#8125) Top

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PuzzleScott posted @ 2012-08-06 12:54 PM

Wonderful puzzles. Thanks!
@ 2012-08-06 1:16 PM (#8126 - in reply to #8048) (#8126) Top

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tamz29 posted @ 2012-08-06 1:16 PM

superb quality from japan as always. great puzzles. great presentation. great format.
@ 2012-08-07 5:57 AM (#8128 - in reply to #8048) (#8128) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-08-07 5:57 AM

With no more players participating now, Classics vs. Innovatives is now over, and the score page is open.
@ 2012-08-07 9:55 AM (#8129 - in reply to #8128) (#8129) Top

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Richard posted @ 2012-08-07 9:55 AM

Thanks for this nice set! After reading the IB I thought a few puzzles were a bit too innovative/ error sensible for my liking, but when you are a solver competing halfway the pack, you are allowed to make choices.
I had fun with the six puzzles I solved and also with the one that kept me busy for the last 24 minutes without succes.
The killer was my absolute favorite. Really a brilliant, narrow solving path! Took me a long time, but was very happy to complete it finally.
@ 2012-08-07 12:23 PM (#8130 - in reply to #8048) (#8130) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-08-07 12:23 PM

A bit more detail about my performance now - I started off pretty well, and made a mistake in inequality around the last bits of the solve and left it. Then Killer went pretty well, and I got my speed back with that. Around the halfway stage something went wrong and I was just staring blankly at the Capsule for 35 minutes. When I finally regained my bearings, I solved 4 more at the end, only to see that the Co-ordinates had an error, and looking at the other submissions, quite a common one. All in all, not one of my better days, so pleased enough with where I stand.

My favorites were Killer, Sum of them, Inequality, Irregular, Capsule in that order. I liked Co-ordinates, but it had a lot of different places to keep track of, so maybe not the best in a competition atmosphere.

Edited by prasanna16391 2012-08-07 1:19 PM
@ 2012-08-07 12:43 PM (#8131 - in reply to #8048) (#8131) Top

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Ziti posted @ 2012-08-07 12:43 PM

Thank you for the very fun and challenging set of puzzles. I am always impressed by the cleverness shown by the authors, and this is certainly no different. I will single out the Greater-Than Sudoku among many worthy choices -- it was amazing in its construction!
@ 2012-08-07 4:41 PM (#8133 - in reply to #8048) (#8133) Top

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Yuhei Kusui posted @ 2012-08-07 4:41 PM

As a Japanese, I'm proud that they provided an excellent set of puzzles!

BTW, I'd like to know the influence of difference in answer key: between this style (only 4 digits) and usual one (all digits of particular row/column).
Is there any hint from the result?
@ 2012-08-07 5:37 PM (#8134 - in reply to #8048) (#8134) Top

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deu posted @ 2012-08-07 5:37 PM

Thank you everyone for participating. 235 players participated, out of which 180 got non-zero scores. Congratulations to Thomas Snyder (all 16 puzzles, 95:54), Kota Morinishi (15 puzzles, 95:32), Tiit Vunk (15 puzzles, 110:20) and Jan Novotny (15 puzzles, 119:36) for topping this test. Kota was the fastest, but he made a mistake in one puzzle.

Here are some statistics:
- Most solved puzzle: (C1) Classic Sudoku was solved by 149 players.
- Least solved puzzle: (I10) Sum of Them was solved by 14 players.
- Puzzle with highest rating: (I8) Quad max-min has 9.33 points.
- Puzzle with lowest rating: (I2) Odd Labyrinth has 7.40 points.
- Most common wrong answer: 11 competitors sent "3619" in (I9) Coordinates Sudoku. 2 players missed bonus points by that.

I hope everyone enjoyed the test. Which was the winner for you, Classics or Innovatives?
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