@ 2012-05-04 3:30 PM (#7189 - in reply to #7186) (#7189) Top | |
Posts: 542 Country : India | rajeshk posted @ 2012-05-04 3:30 PM Looking forward to this test |
@ 2012-05-06 10:50 PM (#7192 - in reply to #7189) (#7192) Top | |
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2012-05-06 10:50 PM Logic Masters India announces May 2012 Sudoku Test — Sudoku 8X8 Dates : 12th - 14th May IB and Submission Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/M201205S/ Author : ZUZKA HROMCOVÁ & MATÚŠ DEMIGER There are 2 parts, each of 64 minutes. |
@ 2012-05-07 4:41 AM (#7193 - in reply to #7186) (#7193) Top | |
Posts: 337 Country : Switzerland | Fred76 posted @ 2012-05-07 4:41 AM Will there be a special prize for the player finishing in 8th position? |
@ 2012-05-07 5:04 AM (#7194 - in reply to #7193) (#7194) Top | |
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-05-07 5:04 AM Fred76 - 2012-05-07 4:41 AM Will there be a special prize for the player finishing in 8th position? Nope. 64th |
@ 2012-05-07 7:46 AM (#7196 - in reply to #7186) (#7196) Top | |
Posts: 114 Country : India | devarajand posted @ 2012-05-07 7:46 AM Can one take a break between part A and B |
@ 2012-05-07 10:19 AM (#7197 - in reply to #7186) (#7197) Top | |
Posts: 12 Country : Thailand | sinchai4547 posted @ 2012-05-07 10:19 AM In X sum sudoku: the clue is on the right puzzle at column 4. The number 8 is wrong. 9 is correct? |
@ 2012-05-07 10:45 AM (#7198 - in reply to #7186) (#7198) Top | |
Posts: 69 Country : Japan | deu posted @ 2012-05-07 10:45 AM I have one question about B6 (Surplus-deficit sudoku). Are there any restrictions for regions with exactly 8 cells? |
@ 2012-05-07 10:51 AM (#7199 - in reply to #7196) (#7199) Top | |
Posts: 739 Country : India | vopani posted @ 2012-05-07 10:51 AM devarajand - 2012-05-07 7:46 AM Can one take a break between part A and B It does not say you have to take both parts together and 'independent parts' surely implies that you can take as long a break in between as you like. Also, I'm sure you can participate in Part B before Part A if you wish, there doesn't seem to be any restriction. |
@ 2012-05-07 10:55 AM (#7200 - in reply to #7197) (#7200) Top | |
Posts: 739 Country : India | vopani posted @ 2012-05-07 10:55 AM sinchai4547 - 2012-05-07 10:19 AM In X sum sudoku: the clue is on the right puzzle at column 4. The number 8 is wrong. 9 is correct? Yes, you are correct. it should be '9' on the RHS of row4. |
@ 2012-05-07 11:03 AM (#7201 - in reply to #7186) (#7201) Top | |
Posts: 739 Country : India | vopani posted @ 2012-05-07 11:03 AM In B14: Odd-Even View Skyscraper Sudoku, What is the use of 'skyscraper'? Isn't it simply an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku'? |
@ 2012-05-07 11:12 AM (#7202 - in reply to #7199) (#7202) Top | |
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2012-05-07 11:12 AM Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 10:51 AM devarajand - 2012-05-07 7:46 AM Can one take a break between part A and B It does not say you have to take both parts together and 'independent parts' surely implies that you can take as long a break in between as you like. Also, I'm sure you can participate in Part B before Part A if you wish, there doesn't seem to be any restriction. There will absolutely be no restrictions between two parts. Breaks are allowed. And you are allowed to start part B before part A. |
@ 2012-05-07 11:23 AM (#7203 - in reply to #7201) (#7203) Top | |
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2012-05-07 11:23 AM Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 11:03 AM Yes, it is Odd Even View Sudoku.In B14: Odd-Even View Skyscraper Sudoku, What is the use of 'skyscraper'? Isn't it simply an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku'? |
@ 2012-05-07 11:32 AM (#7204 - in reply to #7203) (#7204) Top | |
Posts: 69 Country : Japan | deu posted @ 2012-05-07 11:32 AM Administrator - 2012-05-07 11:23 AM Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 11:03 AM Yes, it is Odd Even View Sudoku.In B14: Odd-Even View Skyscraper Sudoku, What is the use of 'skyscraper'? Isn't it simply an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku'? No. The example has multiple solutions as an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku' (We can swap 5 and 6 in Column 2/3). |
@ 2012-05-07 11:38 AM (#7205 - in reply to #7203) (#7205) Top | |
Posts: 739 Country : India | vopani posted @ 2012-05-07 11:38 AM The total points is 808 and time is 128 minutes. That means, a player who finishes all puzzles within the time limit is solving at the speed of at least 6-7 (and maybe more) points per minute, whereas the time bonus is just 3 points per minute. I think the time bonus should be increased. In particular, players completing Part A and Part B would be solving at a speed greater than 5.5 points per minute and 7 points per minute respectively. The time bonus of 3 points per minute looks meager and will surely not give a good indication of the different of performances of players who complete the test before time. Obvious Issue: Players completing Part B should be given a higher time bonus than those completing Part A. |
@ 2012-05-07 11:39 AM (#7206 - in reply to #7204) (#7206) Top | |
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2012-05-07 11:39 AM deu - 2012-05-07 11:32 AM Apologies. My mistake.Administrator - 2012-05-07 11:23 AM Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 11:03 AM Yes, it is Odd Even View Sudoku.In B14: Odd-Even View Skyscraper Sudoku, What is the use of 'skyscraper'? Isn't it simply an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku'? No. The example has multiple solutions as an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku' (We can swap 5 and 6 in Column 2/3). |
@ 2012-05-07 11:45 AM (#7207 - in reply to #7206) (#7207) Top | |
Posts: 164 Country : Slovakia | greenhorn posted @ 2012-05-07 11:45 AM Administrator - 2012-05-07 11:39 AM deu - 2012-05-07 11:32 AM Apologies. My mistake.Administrator - 2012-05-07 11:23 AM Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 11:03 AM Yes, it is Odd Even View Sudoku.In B14: Odd-Even View Skyscraper Sudoku, What is the use of 'skyscraper'? Isn't it simply an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku'? No. The example has multiple solutions as an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku' (We can swap 5 and 6 in Column 2/3). There is a difference between OEVS and OEVSS. If you have in one row numbers "213..." the first visible odd skyscraper is 3, because 1 is covered by 2. |
@ 2012-05-07 11:48 AM (#7208 - in reply to #7205) (#7208) Top | |
Posts: 164 Country : Slovakia | greenhorn posted @ 2012-05-07 11:48 AM Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 11:38 AM The total points is 808 and time is 128 minutes. That means, a player who finishes all puzzles within the time limit is solving at the speed of at least 6-7 (and maybe more) points per minute, whereas the time bonus is just 3 points per minute. I think the time bonus should be increased. In particular, players completing Part A and Part B would be solving at a speed greater than 5.5 points per minute and 7 points per minute respectively. The time bonus of 3 points per minute looks meager and will surely not give a good indication of the different of performances of players who complete the test before time. Obvious Issue: Players completing Part B should be given a higher time bonus than those completing Part A. Yes, we know about it. We will talk about it with Deb soon. The bonuses may be changed. |
@ 2012-05-07 11:51 AM (#7209 - in reply to #7207) (#7209) Top | |
Posts: 739 Country : India | vopani posted @ 2012-05-07 11:51 AM greenhorn - 2012-05-07 11:45 AM There is a difference between OEVS and OEVSS. If you have in one row numbers "213..." the first visible odd skyscraper is 3, because 1 is covered by 2. Ok. I get it. The example doesn't have any such case, so it was misleading. Thanks. |
@ 2012-05-07 12:21 PM (#7210 - in reply to #7209) (#7210) Top | |
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-05-07 12:21 PM Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 11:51 AM greenhorn - 2012-05-07 11:45 AM There is a difference between OEVS and OEVSS. If you have in one row numbers "213..." the first visible odd skyscraper is 3, because 1 is covered by 2. Ok. I get it. The example doesn't have any such case, so it was misleading. Thanks. It did have a few examples I think, not exactly like the 213, but skyscraper logic was required. The "2" below R6C5 had to be satisfied in the first cell itself, since the 5 would block vision towards the 2. This is not the case in Even Odd View I guess, you could've had 5 in the first cell and 2 in the next with the "2" outside clue. (I'm saying this with memory of solving yesterday, so the placements may be a bit off, but the logic was there) |
@ 2012-05-07 12:59 PM (#7211 - in reply to #7198) (#7211) Top | |
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2012-05-07 12:59 PM deu - 2012-05-07 10:45 AM I have one question about B6 (Surplus-deficit sudoku). Are there any restrictions for regions with exactly 8 cells? We will update the instructions - "In regions with less than or equal to 8 cells, the numbers should not repeat." |
@ 2012-05-07 1:01 PM (#7212 - in reply to #7198) (#7212) Top | |
Posts: 164 Country : Slovakia | greenhorn posted @ 2012-05-07 1:01 PM deu - 2012-05-07 10:45 AM I have one question about B6 (Surplus-deficit sudoku). Are there any restrictions for regions with exactly 8 cells? In the competition, there will be no regions with 8 cells. In the IB, you should aply both rules at once - in region with 6 cells no digits may repeat and each digit should appear at least once. |
@ 2012-05-07 2:38 PM (#7213 - in reply to #7186) (#7213) Top | |
Posts: 668 Country : India | swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-05-07 2:38 PM will the sizes be same in the competition as in the IB like 6*6 and all or all will be 9*9 ?? |
@ 2012-05-07 2:50 PM (#7214 - in reply to #7213) (#7214) Top | |
Posts: 164 Country : Slovakia | greenhorn posted @ 2012-05-07 2:50 PM This test is all about Sudoku 8x8, so all the puzzles will have such size. Edited by greenhorn 2012-05-07 2:51 PM |
@ 2012-05-07 3:13 PM (#7215 - in reply to #7214) (#7215) Top | |
Posts: 668 Country : India | swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-05-07 3:13 PM greenhorn - 2012-05-07 2:50 PM This test is all about Sudoku 8x8, so all the puzzles will have such size. yeah thanks |
@ 2012-05-08 12:41 AM (#7220 - in reply to #7186) (#7220) Top | |
Posts: 191 Country : The Netherlands | Richard posted @ 2012-05-08 12:41 AM The theme of part B is ...without regularly placed regions... but most of the example puzzles are 'regular' 2x3 blocks. How do I have to see this? Thanks in advance! Best regards, Richard |