Thread - Mock Test 17

@ 2010-03-19 2:02 PM (#281 - in reply to #280) (#281) Top

purifire

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purifire posted @ 2010-03-19 2:02 PM

No Time to sleep buddy... :D

Office ....practice.... preparation for mock 19 ..... married life (not necessarily in the same order ) hell... 24 hrs is too less in a day...lol

@ 2010-03-19 4:17 PM (#282 - in reply to #281) (#282) Top

valsudo

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valsudo posted @ 2010-03-19 4:17 PM

purifire - 2010-03-19 2:02 PM

No Time to sleep buddy... :D

Office ....practice.... preparation for mock 19 ..... married life (not necessarily in the same order ) hell... 24 hrs is too less in a day...lol

Could also you guard my two boys ( two little angels;) ...) this weekend so that I can make the tournament quietly ???? :laugh:

@ 2010-03-19 4:44 PM (#283 - in reply to #282) (#283) Top

purifire

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purifire posted @ 2010-03-19 4:44 PM

valsudo - 2010-03-19 4:17 PM

Could also you guard my two boys ( two little angels;) ...) this weekend so that I can make the tournament quietly ???? :laugh:

Send them over!!!! The more the merrier :D

@ 2010-03-19 6:24 PM (#284 - in reply to #254) (#284) Top

akash.doulani

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akash.doulani posted @ 2010-03-19 6:24 PM

could we have some practice puzzles to solve online?

@ 2010-03-19 8:16 PM (#285 - in reply to #254) (#285) Top

Gotroch

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Gotroch posted @ 2010-03-19 8:16 PM

We have finished Instruction Booklet for Mock Test 17 and sent to Deb.
Booklet file is also attached in this post.

Edited by Gotroch 2010-03-19 8:18 PM

Attachments
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SudokuMockTest17IB.pdf (54KB - 6 downloads)

@ 2010-03-19 10:04 PM (#286 - in reply to #254) (#286) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-03-19 10:04 PM

Renamed the attached file.

It is also uploaded at mock17 page

@ 2010-03-19 11:16 PM (#287 - in reply to #254) (#287) Top

neerajmehrotra

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-03-19 11:16 PM

@ Gotroch
Pan Digital: Apply standard sudoku rules for the digits 1 to 9. For each group of shaded areas use this
rule: First two rows of add up to the number formed on the third row. In these areas
numbers can be repeated.

What does the last line mean..............In these areas
numbers can be repeated.
Since if the numbers are repeated then the standard sudoku rules do not apply............please clarify

Edited by neerajmehrotra 2010-03-19 11:18 PM

@ 2010-03-19 11:30 PM (#288 - in reply to #287) (#288) Top

Gotroch

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Gotroch posted @ 2010-03-19 11:30 PM

They can't be repeated in the booklet example, as the shaded 3x3 areas in example perfetcly cover standard sudoku 3x3 boxes.
In competetive puzzle, placement of these areas will be different so it will allow repeating of digits.

@ 2010-03-20 12:45 AM (#289 - in reply to #254) (#289) Top

neerajmehrotra

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-03-20 12:45 AM

Oh OK..thanx

@ 2010-03-20 12:50 AM (#290 - in reply to #254) (#290) Top

neerajmehrotra

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-03-20 12:50 AM

Outside Killer in the IB........Is the solution unique

I am getting two solutions for the puzzle in the IB.....R5C2 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C2 and similarly R5C7 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C7............can somebody throw some light on this

@ 2010-03-20 1:07 AM (#291 - in reply to #290) (#291) Top

Gotroch

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Gotroch posted @ 2010-03-20 1:07 AM

neerajmehrotra - 2010-03-20 12:50 AM

Outside Killer in the IB........Is the solution unique

I am getting two solutions for the puzzle in the IB.....R5C2 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C2 and similarly R5C7 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C7............can somebody throw some light on this

I have checked the example and it is OK, so you probably made some mistake somewhere.
Check attached solution:

@ 2010-03-20 1:20 AM (#292 - in reply to #254) (#292) Top

neerajmehrotra

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-03-20 1:20 AM

thanx a lot.............yep i was committing a mistake...........thanx again

@ 2010-03-20 1:23 AM (#293 - in reply to #290) (#293) Top

amitsowani

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amitsowani posted @ 2010-03-20 1:23 AM

The Outside Killer in the IB has a unique solution.
I am pasting the solution here so that you can verify where you made a mistake.

The clue with the 14 on the left was simply awesome :)

@ 2010-03-20 1:26 AM (#294 - in reply to #293) (#294) Top

amitsowani

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amitsowani posted @ 2010-03-20 1:26 AM

Too late in solving and posting the solution :)

@ 2010-03-20 1:35 AM (#295 - in reply to #254) (#295) Top

neerajmehrotra

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-03-20 1:35 AM

stiill many thanx..................I too was able to solve it...........was doing a silly mistake AS USUAL

@ 2010-03-20 3:42 AM (#297 - in reply to #254) (#297) Top

jwilsonian

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jwilsonian posted @ 2010-03-20 3:42 AM

Hello,

I am confused with regards to the Relay in section 1 of the Instruction booklet. I solved the first puzzle, but then none of the 3x3 blocks fit in the second puzzle. Can you please clarify what it is I am supposed to do exactly? Thanks! A cursory examination of submitting a row from puzzle 3 into 4 also shows that none are possible, even before I solve. Confused...

@ 2010-03-20 3:57 AM (#298 - in reply to #297) (#298) Top

Gotroch

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Gotroch posted @ 2010-03-20 3:57 AM

jwilsonian - 2010-03-20 3:42 AM

Hello,

I am confused with regards to the Relay in section 1 of the Instruction booklet. I solved the first puzzle, but then none of the 3x3 blocks fit in the second puzzle. Can you please clarify what it is I am supposed to do exactly? Thanks! A cursory examination of submitting a row from puzzle 3 into 4 also shows that none are possible, even before I solve. Confused...

You can change position of the transfered element. So for example You can transfer top left corner 3x3 block from one puzzle to bottom right corner (or any of possible nine positions) of second puzzle

Edited by Gotroch 2010-03-20 3:58 AM

@ 2010-03-20 4:08 AM (#299 - in reply to #298) (#299) Top

jwilsonian

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jwilsonian posted @ 2010-03-20 4:08 AM

Ah, excellent. Thank you for your response. That makes things a lot easier...

@ 2010-03-20 6:12 AM (#301 - in reply to #266) (#301) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-03-20 6:12 AM

Please note : As per the IB, [red]Round1 and Round2 both are of 60 minutes[/red] now.

@ 2010-03-20 11:57 AM (#303 - in reply to #254) (#303) Top

akash.doulani

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akash.doulani posted @ 2010-03-20 11:57 AM

i have a question in " no four in a row " sudoku. does diagonal imply in the main diagonal or any 4 diagonally adjacent cells ?

@ 2010-03-20 12:02 PM (#304 - in reply to #303) (#304) Top

cauchy

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cauchy posted @ 2010-03-20 12:02 PM

akash.doulani - 2010-03-20 11:57 AM

i have a question in " no four in a row " sudoku. does diagonal imply in the main diagonal or any 4 diagonally adjacent cells ?

In any 4 diagonally adjacent cells (in any diagonal direction by the given cell).

@ 2010-03-20 2:41 PM (#305 - in reply to #304) (#305) Top

purifire

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purifire posted @ 2010-03-20 2:41 PM

This is getting interesting and confusing at the same time :D .... Its high time I checked the IB out...

@ 2010-03-20 3:47 PM (#306 - in reply to #254) (#306) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-03-20 3:47 PM

The puzzle booklets are available to download at the mock page

@ 2010-03-20 3:59 PM (#307 - in reply to #254) (#307) Top

Tejal Phatak

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Tejal Phatak posted @ 2010-03-20 3:59 PM

Seems like its going to be an interesting Mock Test :)

@ 2010-03-20 5:07 PM (#308 - in reply to #254) (#308) Top

akash.doulani

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akash.doulani posted @ 2010-03-20 5:07 PM

it feels like the good old days of our childhood when we eagerly waited for sundays.


	@ 2010-03-19 2:02 PM (#281 - in reply to #280) (#281) Top
purifire Posts: 460 Country : India	purifire posted @ 2010-03-19 2:02 PM No Time to sleep buddy... :D Office ....practice.... preparation for mock 19 ..... married life (not necessarily in the same order ) hell... 24 hrs is too less in a day...lol
	@ 2010-03-19 4:17 PM (#282 - in reply to #281) (#282) Top
valsudo Posts: 1 Country : France	valsudo posted @ 2010-03-19 4:17 PM purifire - 2010-03-19 2:02 PM No Time to sleep buddy... :D Office ....practice.... preparation for mock 19 ..... married life (not necessarily in the same order ) hell... 24 hrs is too less in a day...lol Could also you guard my two boys ( two little angels;) ...) this weekend so that I can make the tournament quietly ???? :laugh:
	@ 2010-03-19 4:44 PM (#283 - in reply to #282) (#283) Top
purifire Posts: 460 Country : India	purifire posted @ 2010-03-19 4:44 PM valsudo - 2010-03-19 4:17 PM purifire - 2010-03-19 2:02 PM No Time to sleep buddy... :D Office ....practice.... preparation for mock 19 ..... married life (not necessarily in the same order ) hell... 24 hrs is too less in a day...lol Could also you guard my two boys ( two little angels;) ...) this weekend so that I can make the tournament quietly ???? :laugh: Send them over!!!! The more the merrier :D
	@ 2010-03-19 6:24 PM (#284 - in reply to #254) (#284) Top
akash.doulani Posts: 157 Country : India	akash.doulani posted @ 2010-03-19 6:24 PM could we have some practice puzzles to solve online?
	@ 2010-03-19 8:16 PM (#285 - in reply to #254) (#285) Top
Gotroch Posts: 83 Country : Czech Republic	Gotroch posted @ 2010-03-19 8:16 PM We have finished Instruction Booklet for Mock Test 17 and sent to Deb. Booklet file is also attached in this post. Edited by Gotroch 2010-03-19 8:18 PM Attachments ---------------- SudokuMockTest17IB.pdf (54KB - 6 downloads)
	@ 2010-03-19 10:04 PM (#286 - in reply to #254) (#286) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2010-03-19 10:04 PM Renamed the attached file. It is also uploaded at mock17 page
	@ 2010-03-19 11:16 PM (#287 - in reply to #254) (#287) Top
neerajmehrotra Posts: 329 Country : India	neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-03-19 11:16 PM @ Gotroch Pan Digital: Apply standard sudoku rules for the digits 1 to 9. For each group of shaded areas use this rule: First two rows of add up to the number formed on the third row. In these areas numbers can be repeated. What does the last line mean..............In these areas numbers can be repeated. Since if the numbers are repeated then the standard sudoku rules do not apply............please clarify Edited by neerajmehrotra 2010-03-19 11:18 PM
	@ 2010-03-19 11:30 PM (#288 - in reply to #287) (#288) Top
Gotroch Posts: 83 Country : Czech Republic	Gotroch posted @ 2010-03-19 11:30 PM They can't be repeated in the booklet example, as the shaded 3x3 areas in example perfetcly cover standard sudoku 3x3 boxes. In competetive puzzle, placement of these areas will be different so it will allow repeating of digits.
	@ 2010-03-20 12:45 AM (#289 - in reply to #254) (#289) Top
neerajmehrotra Posts: 329 Country : India	neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-03-20 12:45 AM Oh OK..thanx
	@ 2010-03-20 12:50 AM (#290 - in reply to #254) (#290) Top
neerajmehrotra Posts: 329 Country : India	neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-03-20 12:50 AM Outside Killer in the IB........Is the solution unique I am getting two solutions for the puzzle in the IB.....R5C2 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C2 and similarly R5C7 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C7............can somebody throw some light on this
	@ 2010-03-20 1:07 AM (#291 - in reply to #290) (#291) Top
Gotroch Posts: 83 Country : Czech Republic	Gotroch posted @ 2010-03-20 1:07 AM neerajmehrotra - 2010-03-20 12:50 AM Outside Killer in the IB........Is the solution unique I am getting two solutions for the puzzle in the IB.....R5C2 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C2 and similarly R5C7 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C7............can somebody throw some light on this I have checked the example and it is OK, so you probably made some mistake somewhere. Check attached solution:
	@ 2010-03-20 1:20 AM (#292 - in reply to #254) (#292) Top
neerajmehrotra Posts: 329 Country : India	neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-03-20 1:20 AM thanx a lot.............yep i was committing a mistake...........thanx again
	@ 2010-03-20 1:23 AM (#293 - in reply to #290) (#293) Top
amitsowani Posts: 349 Country : India	amitsowani posted @ 2010-03-20 1:23 AM The Outside Killer in the IB has a unique solution. I am pasting the solution here so that you can verify where you made a mistake. The clue with the 14 on the left was simply awesome :)
	@ 2010-03-20 1:26 AM (#294 - in reply to #293) (#294) Top
amitsowani Posts: 349 Country : India	amitsowani posted @ 2010-03-20 1:26 AM Too late in solving and posting the solution :)
	@ 2010-03-20 1:35 AM (#295 - in reply to #254) (#295) Top
neerajmehrotra Posts: 329 Country : India	neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-03-20 1:35 AM stiill many thanx..................I too was able to solve it...........was doing a silly mistake AS USUAL
	@ 2010-03-20 3:42 AM (#297 - in reply to #254) (#297) Top
jwilsonian Posts: 4 Country : United States	jwilsonian posted @ 2010-03-20 3:42 AM Hello, I am confused with regards to the Relay in section 1 of the Instruction booklet. I solved the first puzzle, but then none of the 3x3 blocks fit in the second puzzle. Can you please clarify what it is I am supposed to do exactly? Thanks! A cursory examination of submitting a row from puzzle 3 into 4 also shows that none are possible, even before I solve. Confused...
	@ 2010-03-20 3:57 AM (#298 - in reply to #297) (#298) Top
Gotroch Posts: 83 Country : Czech Republic	Gotroch posted @ 2010-03-20 3:57 AM jwilsonian - 2010-03-20 3:42 AM Hello, I am confused with regards to the Relay in section 1 of the Instruction booklet. I solved the first puzzle, but then none of the 3x3 blocks fit in the second puzzle. Can you please clarify what it is I am supposed to do exactly? Thanks! A cursory examination of submitting a row from puzzle 3 into 4 also shows that none are possible, even before I solve. Confused... You can change position of the transfered element. So for example You can transfer top left corner 3x3 block from one puzzle to bottom right corner (or any of possible nine positions) of second puzzle Edited by Gotroch 2010-03-20 3:58 AM
	@ 2010-03-20 4:08 AM (#299 - in reply to #298) (#299) Top
jwilsonian Posts: 4 Country : United States	jwilsonian posted @ 2010-03-20 4:08 AM Ah, excellent. Thank you for your response. That makes things a lot easier...
	@ 2010-03-20 6:12 AM (#301 - in reply to #266) (#301) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2010-03-20 6:12 AM Please note : As per the IB, [red]Round1 and Round2 both are of 60 minutes[/red] now.
	@ 2010-03-20 11:57 AM (#303 - in reply to #254) (#303) Top
akash.doulani Posts: 157 Country : India	akash.doulani posted @ 2010-03-20 11:57 AM i have a question in " no four in a row " sudoku. does diagonal imply in the main diagonal or any 4 diagonally adjacent cells ?
	@ 2010-03-20 12:02 PM (#304 - in reply to #303) (#304) Top
cauchy Posts: 1 Country : Czech Republic	cauchy posted @ 2010-03-20 12:02 PM akash.doulani - 2010-03-20 11:57 AM i have a question in " no four in a row " sudoku. does diagonal imply in the main diagonal or any 4 diagonally adjacent cells ? In any 4 diagonally adjacent cells (in any diagonal direction by the given cell).
	@ 2010-03-20 2:41 PM (#305 - in reply to #304) (#305) Top
purifire Posts: 460 Country : India	purifire posted @ 2010-03-20 2:41 PM This is getting interesting and confusing at the same time :D .... Its high time I checked the IB out...
	@ 2010-03-20 3:47 PM (#306 - in reply to #254) (#306) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2010-03-20 3:47 PM The puzzle booklets are available to download at the mock page
	@ 2010-03-20 3:59 PM (#307 - in reply to #254) (#307) Top
Tejal Phatak Posts: 81 Country : India	Tejal Phatak posted @ 2010-03-20 3:59 PM Seems like its going to be an interesting Mock Test :)
	@ 2010-03-20 5:07 PM (#308 - in reply to #254) (#308) Top
akash.doulani Posts: 157 Country : India	akash.doulani posted @ 2010-03-20 5:07 PM it feels like the good old days of our childhood when we eagerly waited for sundays.