Hi,

It was a fasinating 30 minutes!

Thanks a Ton for organizing such a wonderful test.

Frankly speaking, did couple of guesses, luckily it turned right.

3 Cheers,
Keshav

Thanks for that, guys, a great, if stressful, set of puzzles.

Hey,

I noticed that the labels (A,B,C and D) of the Sudoku Twins have changed order.
In the example they are labelled left to right as A-B-C-D, and in the test they are labelled as A-C-B-D

I input my answer as the letters appear in the example - I believe my intended answer was correct.
(I noticed this because I was surprised to get that one wrong!)

Great test!!,
Thanks
Ronald

Edited by ronald 2010-12-04 9:52 PM

Forget it, I think I was wrong anyway
But I did not put the letters I intended - because they appeared in a different order. Might be worth noting for future.

Man that was intense. It had my heart going the whole time... Thanks so much Deb. I'm pretty bummed, on the two I missed... LMI count I started to double count, and told myself 'you've never counted this type wrong, just get the bonus' ... go figure hah. And on Images count, I forgot that reflection was allowed!! Man, so close. I think if the example had a mirrored one I would have remembered. Oh well, so much fun. Thanks again to this site for having so much puzzle competitions. It seems so hard to believe now that just a few months ago I was having to wait a year at a time between the USPC. Thanks again LMI!!

Oh! One other thing... for next time, if there is any chance we could have just 30 more seconds in the review period.... I think I could've gotten two or three more answers with just another half minute heh...

Deb, Rohan: Great Screen test, thanks!

There were lot of puzzles in this test I left almost finished (for example with only 2 possible answers to decide) and I had to deal with them in the review period (~10 of these puzzles but managed to submit only 3)
I believe top solvers will be able to solve all puzzles in time limit, but I also think lot of people could find these puzzles too hard and given time is not enough for them.

So if we have bonus points for earlier sumbission, I think we can let competitors solve also after time limit of each puzzle for chance to get points for later submission (with points value decreasing 1point for each second after time limit)

Do you think it is good idea or do you like current system more?

It was a mistake on our part not to have reflection in the example image.

Not sure if/when ST#2 will happen.
We'll definitely review all the inputs from the forum.

In fact we had a longer list of feedback questions. One of the question was how long the Review Period should be.

So - request everyone to put any other specific feedback they have.

I would comment about the puzzle difficulties after the test.

But you have a nice idea of 'decreasing 1 point'. We are very likely to implement this or something similar, if/when we've ST2.

It is not that we like the current system. It is not that the current system is perfect.
This is first-ever Screen Test at LMI, and with inputs/feedbacks from everyone, I hope that we can improve it.

It is a miss.
It is best to have the example and the puzzle exactly labeled to avoid any confusion, especially given the short nature of the test.

Thanks Gotroch. Like Deb mentioned, since this is the first ST, we were not sure how good the timings decided will be. We will surely work upon players' feedback and (hopefully) organise a better ST in future (with changes).
We'll probably start some polls regarding the timings, format, etc.

I'm glad you enjoyed :-)

I am not able to login to take ST1 test. It always displays my brother's result (who has taken this test couple of hours back).
I tried deleting cache and restarting laptop but it does not help.
I am able to post this message with my ID but strangely if I click on ST1 link it does not give me option to type my credentials.

Murali...

Check your inbox for alternate link

Brilliant puzzles,
just a suggestion, if we answer ealier that 60 seconds in any puzzle , that time should be allowed to use in other puzzles before 90 sec review,
might even out strenghts in different type of puzzles

Similar to Neeraj's suggestion.
I'm not sure if we should do this. Because 'the order in which the puzzles appear' would affect players' performance.

most importantly, any amount of seconds saved for a puzzle is being converted to bonus points... so it doesnt serve a purpose giving a bonus for seconds saved and then carrying the time forward to next puzzle...

agreed that bonus pts takes care of fast solving, i would prefer using that time in solvinhg other puzzles where i m not that quick, eg i cld solve the sudoku puzzles quickly but need more than avg time for the loops ,
thats my take, but i understand what we intend to test is also important, if we want to test time solving, or ability to solve all kinds of puzzle

Edited by utkaarsh 2010-12-06 8:10 PM

For Screen Test 1, we stuck to the format in which screen tests take place at WPCs. We added the 90-sec review period so that more puzzles can be solved by players and also to motivate new-comers and first-timers.

We will work upon all the feedback we get to improve in future.

As for your suggestion, if the saved time is again given back to you to solve any puzzle you want, it just transforms it into a direct 30-min normal test with 25 puzzles. Say for example a player doesnt like Arrows, she/he will just skip that puzzle and use those 60 secs to solve some other puzzle, which is not the idea of a screen test.

After an exciting weekend of the short-and-quick format of the puzzle world, with a high participation of 183 players from 35 countries, we announce the winners and players with outstanding performance:

1st Martin Merker (Germany) - 1477
2nd Thomas Snyder (USA) - 1450
3rd Hideaki Jo (Japan) - 1394

View complete results: http://logicmastersindia.com/ST/ST1/score.asp

Congrats to Martin Merker for winning Screen Test 1 and for scoring 1477 points . Congrats to Thomas Snyder and Hideaki Jo for finishing 2nd and 3rd respectively.
Special thanks to Rishi Puri, Ritesh Gupta, Rajesh Kumar, Rakesh Rai and Tejal Phatak for solving and testing the interface of ST beforehand and to ensure a smooth weekend.

Please give your feedbacks and comments so that we can work on it for future STs. Hoping to see you all at ST2.

Regards,
Rohan Rao and Deb Mohanty.

I submited all the answers but only 2 was counted... Did I start too late?

Check other thread.

I participated in LMI Tests after a long time, was a bit rusty as the performance suggests.

Generally, the answers I submit are quite accurate. But this time I got 7 right and 7 wrong. Certainly, because of the time constraint associated with individual puzzles.

Overall, Screen Test is a great concept, as it requires the individual to solve each and every puzzle. As the whole test was based on WPC Style, I would suggest not to modify it further. But one thing that I would like is more time for all the individual puzzles in the next Screen Test.

Yes, we will probably have more time for each puzzle next time to enable more players to be able to solve the puzzles.

I have written about my Screen Test experience on my blog: http://rohanrao.blogspot.com/2010/11/logic-masters-india-screen-tes...