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@ 2010-11-01 9:04 PM (#2364 - in reply to #2363) (#2364) Top

neerajmehrotra



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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-11-01 9:04 PM

thanx Deb.... U always come to the rescue
@ 2010-11-01 9:26 PM (#2365 - in reply to #2364) (#2365) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-01 9:26 PM

You can see more Surplus Sudoku at WSC2010 site and at OAPC site

They are not 9X9 though.
@ 2010-11-01 10:27 PM (#2366 - in reply to #2341) (#2366) Top

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zhergan posted @ 2010-11-01 10:27 PM

Hi,

Thomas Snyder and Wei-Hwa Huang gave some examples to surplus sudoku in their
book with name "Mutant Sudoku". I also don't have the book but I observed some of
its pages through the link

http://books.google.com.tr/books?id=XXvAAfdvYZ0C&printsec=frontcove...

It has pages 97-101 about surplus sudoku. Pages 97, 98 and 100 are included in the preview. But 99 and 101 is not included in the preview page of Google Books. There exist two 9x9 surplus sudokus on page 100 with names "Large Windmill" and "Large Diamond".

Don't forget it is a copyrighted material and actually it is better to have this book in your hand if you like sudokus. You may check preview pages and get an idea how a 9x9 surplus sudoku will look like. It seems like an exciting concept.

Regards,

Zafer
@ 2010-11-02 10:08 PM (#2367 - in reply to #2366) (#2367) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-11-02 10:08 PM

Thanx Zhergan & Deb,

Actually I am still to see Thomas's books in Indian Stores..........
ofcourse I did not try to purchase them online......
@ 2010-11-03 5:54 AM (#2368 - in reply to #2362) (#2368) Top

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Fred76 posted @ 2010-11-03 5:54 AM

neerajmehrotra - 2010-11-01 8:18 PM

can someone put some example of 9X9 surplus and Islands..........
I am not able to understand the variant............


On Fed-sudoku (http://www.fed-sudoku.eu/enindex.php?co=) There are rounds named "Krtek's cup" (from Czech author Jan "Krtek" Novotny), where there are 8 grids of one type for each variant.
One round was titled "More-or-less sudoku" which consist of Surplus sudoku and Deficit sudoku of different size. You may check pdf file of this round with grids and solutions:

http://www.fed-sudoku.eu/zadania/Krtek/KP025en.pdf

Puzzle 5 and 6 correspond exactly to ukpa rule for this puzzle.

Hope it helps,

Fred

Edited by Fred76 2010-11-03 5:59 AM
@ 2010-11-03 7:36 AM (#2369 - in reply to #2368) (#2369) Top

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zhergan posted @ 2010-11-03 7:36 AM

Thanks Fred. Examples are helpful. I also tried to design an example for 9x9 surplus sudoku.

I'm trying to attach it.

Zafer



(surplusexamplezafer.JPG)



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Attachments surplusexamplezafer.JPG (28KB - 4 downloads)
@ 2010-11-03 8:24 AM (#2371 - in reply to #2369) (#2371) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-11-03 8:24 AM

High time we had spoiler tag in the forum. here you go.

Solution to Zafer's 9x9 surplus sudoku
Spoiler: show
132967458
987253146
621485973
594321867
859612734
473196285
265748319
316874592
748539621
@ 2010-11-03 8:28 AM (#2372 - in reply to #2369) (#2372) Top

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zhergan posted @ 2010-11-03 8:28 AM

Hi again,

I've posted my last message which includes the solution using Mozilla Firefox and the solution seems very tiny in my browser window. But when I tried to open my message in Internet Explorer the solution had been displayed to me with a visible font. I'm not sure that how it is displayed to others because of this. Maybe I have some problems with my Internet Explorer settings. Most of the time I prefer using Firefox. I tried to give the solution in a very tiny font keeping in mind that members may want to deal with it and then check their solution. Can admin help me to correct if there exists an error?

Regards,

Zafer
@ 2010-11-03 8:33 AM (#2373 - in reply to #2371) (#2373) Top

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zhergan posted @ 2010-11-03 8:33 AM

Hi thanks for the explanation and spoiler tag version. Maybe it will be better if you can delete my earlier posts with numbers #2370 and #2372. Sorry for the trouble

Zafer
@ 2010-11-03 8:37 AM (#2374 - in reply to #2373) (#2374) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-11-03 8:37 AM

zhergan - 2010-11-03 8:33 AM

Hi thanks for the explanation and spoiler tag version. Maybe it will be better if you can delete my earlier posts with numbers #2370 and #2372. Sorry for the trouble

Zafer
Nothing to feel bad about - we didn't have spoiler tag. I realized that we definitely should have had that only after your post.
@ 2010-11-03 9:04 AM (#2375 - in reply to #2374) (#2375) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-11-03 9:04 AM

Testing spoiler tag with images
Solution to Zafer's 9x9 surplus sudoku
Spoiler: show

Zafer, please check if the image is correct.
@ 2010-11-03 2:18 PM (#2388 - in reply to #2375) (#2388) Top

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zhergan posted @ 2010-11-03 2:18 PM

Hi,

I think spoiler tags are very useful and it is obvious that they work properly with the images also. I checked the image and it is correct.

Zafer
@ 2010-11-05 6:13 PM (#2405 - in reply to #2388) (#2405) Top

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vopani posted @ 2010-11-05 6:13 PM

:|

Edited by Rohan Rao 2010-11-05 6:16 PM
@ 2010-11-07 11:22 AM (#2407 - in reply to #2341) (#2407) Top

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akash.doulani posted @ 2010-11-07 11:22 AM

did anyone take the test? what are the expected scores?
@ 2010-11-08 12:59 AM (#2412 - in reply to #2341) (#2412) Top

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macherlakumar posted @ 2010-11-08 12:59 AM

Just now I have given the competition. It is good I was able to solve 4 classic and 1 tens sudoku. I gave the test from my mobile as its raining heavily here, struggling to draw the grid and copying the question if this is not done may be I would have solved 2 more sudoku's. Anyway it was enjoying solving them.

Edited by macherlakumar 2010-11-08 1:03 AM
@ 2010-11-08 8:38 AM (#2415 - in reply to #2412) (#2415) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-08 8:38 AM

macherlakumar - 2010-11-08 12:59 AM

Just now I have given the competition. It is good I was able to solve 4 classic and 1 tens sudoku. I gave the test from my mobile as its raining heavily here, struggling to draw the grid and copying the question if this is not done may be I would have solved 2 more sudoku's. Anyway it was enjoying solving them.

From ukpuzzles forum, it looks like some players didn't solve all 4 puzzles in Question 1. Rules were clearly mentioned, but I guess some players didn't read it.
@ 2010-11-08 9:34 AM (#2417 - in reply to #2415) (#2417) Top

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purifire posted @ 2010-11-08 9:34 AM

debmohanty - 2010-11-08 8:38 AM

macherlakumar - 2010-11-08 12:59 AM

Just now I have given the competition. It is good I was able to solve 4 classic and 1 tens sudoku. I gave the test from my mobile as its raining heavily here, struggling to draw the grid and copying the question if this is not done may be I would have solved 2 more sudoku's. Anyway it was enjoying solving them.

From ukpuzzles forum, it looks like some players didn't solve all 4 puzzles in Question 1. Rules were clearly mentioned, but I guess some players didn't read it.


Overall it was a good competition... the puzzles were nice...

Rishi
@ 2010-11-08 2:33 PM (#2423 - in reply to #2417) (#2423) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-11-08 2:33 PM

it was a good set of puzzles............. waiting for the results... I believe it shd by out by 1200 hrs GMT today
@ 2010-11-08 7:13 PM (#2427 - in reply to #2341) (#2427) Top

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PuzzleScot posted @ 2010-11-08 7:13 PM

Hi all,

The results were indeed published on schedule - http://www.ukpuzzles.org/final-results.php?contestid=1
(We are debating if real names should be displayed. Anyone object?)

Thank-you to all who participated in our 1st hosted contest. Hopefully only a handful of people were inconvenienced by some early technical issues.

Alan.
Chairman (&webmaster), UKPA
@ 2010-11-08 7:26 PM (#2428 - in reply to #2427) (#2428) Top

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purifire posted @ 2010-11-08 7:26 PM

PuzzleScot - 2010-11-08 7:13 PM

Hi all,

The results were indeed published on schedule - http://www.ukpuzzles.org/final-results.php?contestid=1
(We are debating if real names should be displayed. Anyone object?)

Thank-you to all who participated in our 1st hosted contest. Hopefully only a handful of people were inconvenienced by some early technical issues.

Alan.
Chairman (&webmaster), UKPA


Hi Alan,

Thanks for a wonderful contest... We enjoyed it thoroughly.

We do not have problems if real names are displayed.

Rishi
@ 2010-11-08 8:05 PM (#2429 - in reply to #2428) (#2429) Top

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vopani posted @ 2010-11-08 8:05 PM

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