@ 2016-01-31 1:21 AM (#20867 - in reply to #20773) (#20867) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 12 Country : United States | willwc posted @ 2016-01-31 1:21 AM
An excellent set of puzzles. My thanks to the authors/organizers. I will also highly recommend the books to anyone who has not checked them out before. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-01-31 2:58 AM (#20868 - in reply to #20773) (#20868) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 170 Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2016-01-31 2:58 AM
An expectedly brilliant test. I love the books, the contest matched their quality. Thank you! It's hard to choose favourites; somehow I always tend towards the ones that gave me most trouble. That's the Symmetry Area here: I couldn't solve either of those until revisiting them later, kept not seeing ways that things could resolve. And once you've figured out 11/19, the 8 doesn't work! Then I'll vote for Angle Loop anytime because the type is so good, as were the puzzles. Other than that, the harder Meandering Words seemed easy, but I still broke it. It's hard to find errors in those. And somewhat annoyingly I fixed an error in Summon 2 first in one entry code line, then in the other. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-01 3:09 AM (#20873 - in reply to #20773) (#20873) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-02-01 3:09 AM
I was a bit apprehensive going into this for two reasons. 1) I haven't managed to solve a single medium+ Angle Loop till now. 2) I am really bad at intuition/guessing. Considering that, the test went fine except for two puzzles. One of them is that Symmetry Area puzzle which was beautiful to look at until I had to attack it with around 10 erasings (mainly because I didn't want to get to the Angle Loop) in multiple re-visits across the test duration. I'm probably just missing something simple and doing silly things repeatedly. I managed to solve the easier Angle Loop which is a big achievement in itself, and I still can't get the bigger one to work. If not for my shortcomings in these two puzzles I'd have a really nice result. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-01 7:00 AM (#20874 - in reply to #20773) (#20874) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2016-02-01 7:00 AM
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@ 2016-02-01 7:18 AM (#20875 - in reply to #20773) (#20875) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 172 Country : ITALY | forcolin posted @ 2016-02-01 7:18 AM One of the best contests of recent times. Very innovative and very logical. based more on logical solving capacity rather than on speed. I liked it a lot, in spite of spending an awful lot of time on the first symmetry area (I managed to solve it only after the end) and still can't figure out how to sort the bigger brother. Very elegant also the second angle loop. Thanks to the authors | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-01 9:04 AM (#20876 - in reply to #20773) (#20876) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 315 Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2016-02-01 9:04 AM
As expected, the last Angle Loop broke me up for the last 10-15 minutes. It's a type that really doesn't suit me. I took a while afterwards to get it. I enjoyed all puzzles without a little eraser as the other ones caused some unnecessary problems. Not a bad performance overall though. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-01 1:00 PM (#20877 - in reply to #20773) (#20877) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 102 Country : United States | ghirsch posted @ 2016-02-01 1:00 PM
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@ 2016-02-01 7:31 PM (#20878 - in reply to #20773) (#20878) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2016-02-01 7:31 PM
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@ 2016-02-02 7:30 AM (#20882 - in reply to #20773) (#20882) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 83 Country : Czech Republic | Gotroch posted @ 2016-02-02 7:30 AM
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@ 2016-02-02 8:47 AM (#20883 - in reply to #20773) (#20883) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2016-02-02 8:47 AM Solutions booklet uploaded. It also has a listing of which author created which puzzles and original version of Angle Loop (2), which is more challenging than the one that appeared in the contest. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-02 10:10 AM (#20884 - in reply to #20773) (#20884) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2016-02-02 10:10 AM Congratulations to Robert for winning this one, he is way ahead of Bram (2nd) and James (3rd). While I personally don't own the book, I have seen the very impressive stuff. They are of very high quality, and the contest puzzles certainly matched to them. Thanks very much to the authors. I'm yet to solve all the puzzles (especially Symmetric Area and Angle Loop), but my favourites so far have been Araf, Sunglasses and Graffiti Snake. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-02 10:20 AM (#20885 - in reply to #20773) (#20885) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2016-02-02 10:20 AM Not so important statistics - While Japan has the highest number of participants in this test, there is none from Japan in top 10. That is first time in any LMI puzzle test. I suppose the only way to keep them out of the top is ask them to author tests :) | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-02 1:49 PM (#20886 - in reply to #20885) (#20886) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 739 Country : India | vopani posted @ 2016-02-02 1:49 PM debmohanty - 2016-02-02 10:20 AM Not so important statistics - While Japan has the highest number of participants in this test, there is none from Japan in top 10. That is first time in any LMI puzzle test. I suppose the only way to keep them out of the top is ask them to author tests :) Wow! No wonder Prasanna keeps asking when will Japan host the WPC :-) | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-02 2:19 PM (#20887 - in reply to #20885) (#20887) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 183 Country : Turkey | yureklis posted @ 2016-02-02 2:19 PM debmohanty - 2016-02-02 10:20 AM Not so important statistics - While Japan has the highest number of participants in this test, there is none from Japan in top 10. That is first time in any LMI puzzle test. I suppose the only way to keep them out of the top is ask them to author tests :) Ahhhaaaa cool :D | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-02 6:20 PM (#20889 - in reply to #20773) (#20889) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2016-02-02 6:20 PM
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@ 2016-02-02 7:03 PM (#20892 - in reply to #20773) (#20892) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 241 Country : Indonesia | chaotic_iak posted @ 2016-02-02 7:03 PM Well, barely missing top three. Still targeting for a top three so I can get my name mentioned. :P | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-02 10:54 PM (#20895 - in reply to #20773) (#20895) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 170 Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2016-02-02 10:54 PM Wow, I can't say I expected a chance to win, let alone by such a margin. Of course some factors played to my advantage: most Japanese top solvers didn't compete, the puzzles and types were on the geometric side and intuition-friendly, I own and have solved most of the three existing Toketa books. Still, very happy, thanks again! I think the second Angle Loop is a great puzzle, I prefer it to the original from the solution booklet: I feel it sets up the final trick very elegantly. Of course that's after having figured it out quickly, I might well think differently otherwise... | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-03 2:42 AM (#20901 - in reply to #20773) (#20901) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 187 Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2016-02-03 2:42 AM Very well done to Rob, we are having a good start to the year! His first LMI victory, and my first LMI podium (if you don't include Riad's April optimising contests...). I was on holiday all last week without my Toketa books (oh no!), so had no chance to prepare. Perhaps that made my mind 'fresher'? I was doing well until the end approached, then I sat for 8 minutes looking at the "easy" Angle Loop and constantly penciling and erasing on that squares grid... curiously I had little trouble with the harder Angle Loop, it was logically solvable (although I was still slow to join it up). Thank you to the authors, the puzzles were great, and nicer than the practise set. ;) | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-05 5:57 AM (#20917 - in reply to #20773) (#20917) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 30 Country : United States | brecher92 posted @ 2016-02-05 5:57 AM This looks like a great set of puzzles, but 2 hours in one sitting is just too much for me. In the future maybe two separate contests of 1 hour each? | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-05 7:51 AM (#20918 - in reply to #20773) (#20918) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 114 Country : India | devarajand posted @ 2016-02-05 7:51 AM Will some one post a walk through for both Angle loop puzzles | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-05 11:09 AM (#20919 - in reply to #20918) (#20919) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 102 Country : United States | ghirsch posted @ 2016-02-05 11:09 AM devarajand - 2016-02-04 8:51 AM Will some one post a walk through for both Angle loop puzzles For the first puzzle: First the red. There is only one option for the obtuse vertex at the bottom. Also, the C has to connect down to the E, and you quickly run into problems if you try to connect it to B as well, so it has to connect to the acute vertex to the right. Now the blue. There is only one way left to connect the H without cutting off the bottom right acute vertex, and the G then has to connect up to guarantee a single, non-crossing loop. The B then has only one option, then the D, then the A. Finally the green connects up the last few vertices. For the second puzzle, the right angle vertices are pretty constrained, so start with those. There is a clever trick you have to notice after this, but I thought it was very impressive so I don't want to spoil it in the forum (you can always check the solution pdf if you want to see it). Edited by ghirsch 2016-02-05 11:17 AM | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-06 1:01 PM (#20927 - in reply to #20773) (#20927) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 69 Country : Japan | deu posted @ 2016-02-06 1:01 PM Sorry for the late comment, but thanks for all participations and lots of positive feedbacks. And congratulations to Robert Vollmert for his dominant victory! My only regret is that I was sleeping while he was playing. As we stated in the password, we've started working for Vol.4. If any readers have some suggestions to our book, such as "more hard puzzles", "less T&E puzzles" or any particular genre you want to solve, please let us know. Here are two related links: 1. EKBM has posted his thoughts about this test in his blog (http://ekbm.blogspot.jp/). Logical solving path of Graffiti Snake 2 is beautiful and worth reading. 2. German website croco-puzzle (http://www.croco-puzzle.com/) is holding a daily competition of Toketa Puzzles. First two puzzles are New Tren by Silke Berendes. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2016-02-07 12:33 AM (#20933 - in reply to #20773) (#20933) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 170 Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2016-02-07 12:33 AM Thanks James and Hideaki. James, you were definitely on the list of solvers that I was scared off while reloading the score page all weekend + Monday. And Hideaki, looking at the croco series, good thing you were test-solving! |