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@ 2015-12-27 4:39 PM (#20382 - in reply to #20381) (#20382) Top

chaotic_iak




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chaotic_iak posted @ 2015-12-27 4:39 PM

It's interesting that many people find this test to be tough, since for me I find it pretty easy. (Finished all puzzles in 70 minutes, comparable to last test's 60 minutes.)
@ 2015-12-27 4:50 PM (#20383 - in reply to #20382) (#20383) Top

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vopani posted @ 2015-12-27 4:50 PM

chaotic_iak - 2015-12-27 4:39 PM

It's interesting that many people find this test to be tough, since for me I find it pretty easy. (Finished all puzzles in 70 minutes, comparable to last test's 60 minutes.)

I think players have strong and weak areas. I could blaze through the Regions round in 47-minutes whereas I scored just 57 points here after 90-minutes :-|
Also, being a single puzzle type, it widens the points gap between the players.

Besides, you did quite well in SVC 2015 too!
@ 2015-12-27 7:33 PM (#20384 - in reply to #20267) (#20384) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-12-27 7:33 PM


We are facing some unexpected problems with the LMI server. Although the web site is accessible now, some of the features do not seem to be working.

We will post here, when things are back to normal.

All the issues are fixed now, and it is back to normal.

@ 2015-12-28 6:39 AM (#20385 - in reply to #20267) (#20385) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-12-28 6:39 AM

Site issues


All the site issues are fixed now, and site is back to normal.

@ 2015-12-28 7:07 AM (#20386 - in reply to #20383) (#20386) Top

chaotic_iak




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chaotic_iak posted @ 2015-12-28 7:07 AM

Rohan Rao - 2015-12-27 7:50 PM

chaotic_iak - 2015-12-27 4:39 PM

It's interesting that many people find this test to be tough, since for me I find it pretty easy. (Finished all puzzles in 70 minutes, comparable to last test's 60 minutes.)

I think players have strong and weak areas. I could blaze through the Regions round in 47-minutes whereas I scored just 57 points here after 90-minutes :-|
Also, being a single puzzle type, it widens the points gap between the players.

Besides, you did quite well in SVC 2015 too!


Oh right, there is SVC just 1.5 months ago. Yes, it might just because I'm stronger in Snakes, although then again I finished SVC in 56 out of 60 minutes and this one in 71 out of 90 minutes, meaning this should be slightly easier than SVC. But I already forgot how difficult SVC was. Oh well. Still a good test regardless of difficulty.
@ 2015-12-28 7:46 AM (#20387 - in reply to #20384) (#20387) Top

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greenhorn posted @ 2015-12-28 7:46 AM

Administrator - 2015-12-27 7:33 PM


We are facing some unexpected problems with the LMI server. Although the web site is accessible now, some of the features do not seem to be working.

We will post here, when things are back to normal.

All the issues are fixed now, and it is back to normal.



I have started the competition around 15:30 GMT+2, few minutes before the breakdown, so I could not submit my solutions. It is not important now, I just want to mention that I still cannot read the comments and observe the results.
@ 2015-12-28 8:27 AM (#20388 - in reply to #20382) (#20388) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2015-12-28 8:27 AM

chaotic_iak - 2015-12-26 5:39 PM

It's interesting that many people find this test to be tough, since for me I find it pretty easy. (Finished all puzzles in 70 minutes, comparable to last test's 60 minutes.)


One thing I personally find difficult about snakes is that it often leads me to trying intuitive solves, and I'm still not great with that during competitions. If everything goes well then great, it's fast, but if not I have to decide how much time to spend trying to tweak the solution, or scrapping portions of it, or just moving on to other puzzles, and I sometimes end up wasting a lot of time. That's more of just a personal thing though that I need to fix, not anything inherently difficult about the type. After looking through the puzzles again though I agree with you that most of them weren't too difficult (though I still think that some of those toroidal snakes were pretty tricky).
@ 2015-12-28 2:26 PM (#20389 - in reply to #20267) (#20389) Top

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AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2015-12-28 2:26 PM

What is the duration of the test? Sorry for silly question, but I couldn't find this in the instruction booklet.
@ 2015-12-28 3:16 PM (#20390 - in reply to #20267) (#20390) Top

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wgryciuk posted @ 2015-12-28 3:16 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Toroidal Snake
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-12-28 3:38 PM (#20391 - in reply to #20389) (#20391) Top

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vopani posted @ 2015-12-28 3:38 PM

AndreyBogdanov - 2015-12-28 2:26 PM

What is the duration of the test? Sorry for silly question, but I couldn't find this in the instruction booklet.

Thanks for pointing it out. The duration is 90-minutes.
Timings are mentioned on the submission page too: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201512/

The line about timings seems to have got deleted from the IB. It is present in the previous PR rounds.
It will be added from the next round again.
@ 2015-12-28 6:09 PM (#20394 - in reply to #20267) (#20394) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-12-28 6:09 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Graffiti Snake
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-12-28 7:41 PM (#20395 - in reply to #20267) (#20395) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-12-28 7:41 PM

Contest extended


Due to the issues with the site, the contest has been extended by 48 hours.

@ 2015-12-28 8:20 PM (#20396 - in reply to #20267) (#20396) Top

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shankarsudhir posted @ 2015-12-28 8:20 PM

Just wanted to confirm if the deadline for the test has been extended by an extra two days ?
@ 2015-12-28 8:57 PM (#20397 - in reply to #20267) (#20397) Top

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AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2015-12-28 8:57 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Summed Snake
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-12-28 9:02 PM (#20398 - in reply to #20391) (#20398) Top

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AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2015-12-28 9:02 PM

Rohan Rao - 2015-12-28 1:38 PM
Timings are mentioned on the submission page too: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201512/

Thank you. Sorry, I didn't understand, that I can click on the "Timing" word.

Edited by AndreyBogdanov 2015-12-28 9:02 PM
@ 2015-12-28 9:48 PM (#20400 - in reply to #20396) (#20400) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-12-28 9:48 PM

shankarsudhir - 2015-12-28 8:20 PM

Just wanted to confirm if the deadline for the test has been extended by an extra two days ?
That is right.
@ 2015-12-28 10:43 PM (#20401 - in reply to #20267) (#20401) Top

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bob posted @ 2015-12-28 10:43 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Graffiti Snake
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Well, that was annoying. I'll be honest, I have never cared much for snake puzzles--too much intuition (=bifurcation for me). I solved all of the grafitti snake puzzles, which seem the most logical. I did the first three regular snakes. I wasted about 30 minutes on the last one but never got the right combination of turns. I then wasted about 30 minutes on the first "easy" toroidal snake and got nowhere.

Summed snake--all the "fun" of trial and error combined with lots of arithmetic? No thanks, and there was no time anyway.

Ugh, thoroughly frustrating and now I dislike snake puzzles more than ever.

To those that can magically do these, kudos to you!
@ 2015-12-28 11:55 PM (#20402 - in reply to #20401) (#20402) Top

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AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2015-12-28 11:55 PM

Summed snake--all the "fun" of trial and error combined with lots of arithmetic?
For my opinion summed was most logical puzzles in this contest.
@ 2015-12-29 1:10 AM (#20403 - in reply to #20267) (#20403) Top

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BohemianCoast posted @ 2015-12-29 1:10 AM

I'm feeling a tiny bit hard done by because I started the contest, the site crashed almost immediately (as I was entering my first answer) and didn't come back until long after my 90 minutes were up. No worries really; I'm rubbish at Snake puzzles anyway.
@ 2015-12-29 2:49 AM (#20404 - in reply to #20267) (#20404) Top

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Bram28 posted @ 2015-12-29 2:49 AM

Not a good time for my printer to refuse printing ... had to do them all by hand. Oh well! Nice puzzles anyway!!
@ 2015-12-29 5:10 AM (#20405 - in reply to #20404) (#20405) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-12-29 5:10 AM

Bram28 - 2015-12-29 2:49 AM

Not a good time for my printer to refuse printing ... had to do them all by hand. Oh well! Nice puzzles anyway!!


Interesting. If my printer had issues I'd just do this on MS Paint. In fact, I was debating with myself about solving this round on paint because I actually thought I'd be faster, but then I thought solving on paper will help me more with offline competitions and went with that. Still, I personally think Snake is a puzzle which can be done with the fill option on paint. The only variant from the contest for which I'd say its better on paper is Summed Snake. Our notations while solving the puzzle probably differ though.
@ 2015-12-29 8:28 AM (#20411 - in reply to #20375) (#20411) Top

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Pratyu2812 posted @ 2015-12-29 8:28 AM

Taking basic snakes puzzle , when there are numbers outside the box, say 5 , what I generally do is find combinations : 2+3/ 3+2, 4+1/1+4 and find similar combinations with other rows/columns and with trial and error fit it in.

Is there any other logical way to work around? Maybe knowing this will help me with other puzzles too.
@ 2015-12-29 10:51 AM (#20413 - in reply to #20411) (#20413) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-12-29 10:51 AM

Pratyu2812 - 2015-12-29 8:28 AM

Taking basic snakes puzzle , when there are numbers outside the box, say 5 , what I generally do is find combinations : 2+3/ 3+2, 4+1/1+4 and find similar combinations with other rows/columns and with trial and error fit it in.

Is there any other logical way to work around? Maybe knowing this will help me with other puzzles too.


Yes, there are quite a few ways or few places to look for.
For classic snakes,
1) Look where the head of snake can move
2) Look where the tail of snake can move
3) Look for Big number clues
4) Look for group of clues together in adjacent rows.
Of course most of solvers , visualize an rough sketch of path as well. But for this contest at least, you don't need that, it moves logically all puzzles.

But in generally knowing these techniques is not enough, but applying it. So in particular if you face any issues for any puzzle, post that and puzzlers here will help you through solving it.
@ 2015-12-29 2:31 PM (#20415 - in reply to #20267) (#20415) Top

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anithra posted @ 2015-12-29 2:31 PM

First timer . Will the solutions be posted?.
@ 2015-12-29 2:36 PM (#20416 - in reply to #20415) (#20416) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-12-29 2:36 PM

anithra - 2015-12-29 2:31 PM

First timer . Will the solutions be posted?.


yes , after the test is over.
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