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@ 2014-03-03 11:25 AM (#14517 - in reply to #14505) (#14517) Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2014-03-03 11:25 AM

karzym - 2014-03-03 12:34 AM

I really liked Turning fences and sudokus. The worst part for me was scrabble (because I hate word puzzles) and solution code for Araf (but the puzzle itself was really nice).

About answer key of Araf : We did have alternate thoughts about it. But we stuck to this because 1) we used the same answer key last year (without any complaints) 2) if the answer key is computationally extensive, it is same for all.
@ 2014-03-03 11:46 AM (#14518 - in reply to #14209) (#14518) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2014-03-03 11:46 AM

Puzzle booklet with all puzzles


Here is the link to puzzle booklet with all 10 puzzles. There is no password. It also has original versions of Turning Fences & Yajilin. The original version of Turning Fences is especially interesting solve.

There is no plan to upload solutions booklet. If anyone needs solution to any particular puzzle, please ask here.

@ 2014-03-03 1:19 PM (#14519 - in reply to #14209) (#14519) Top

Hamed



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Hamed posted @ 2014-03-03 1:19 PM

I love Sudoku.What date is the next competition?

Edited by Hamed 2014-03-03 1:23 PM
@ 2014-03-03 2:17 PM (#14520 - in reply to #14209) (#14520) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2014-03-03 2:17 PM

 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Mini Coral
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. KakurOH
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Scrabble
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? Fair
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice


@ 2014-03-03 4:36 PM (#14522 - in reply to #14209) (#14522) Top

Joo M.Y



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Joo M.Y posted @ 2014-03-03 4:36 PM

 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Statue Park
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Araf
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Nanro
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? Very fair
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice


@ 2014-03-03 4:47 PM (#14523 - in reply to #14209) (#14523) Top

Grizix



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Grizix posted @ 2014-03-03 4:47 PM

 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Yajilin
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Mini Coral
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Araf
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? Very fair
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice


Really enjoyed it, even though it took me some time.

But I did not manage to finish the Nanro. Can somebody help me ?
@ 2014-03-03 4:59 PM (#14524 - in reply to #14209) (#14524) Top

RALehrer



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RALehrer posted @ 2014-03-03 4:59 PM

 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Turning Fences
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Mini Coral
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Yajilin
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? Very fair
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice


@ 2014-03-03 5:24 PM (#14525 - in reply to #14523) (#14525) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2014-03-03 5:24 PM

Grizix - 2014-03-03 4:47 PM

But I did not manage to finish the Nanro. Can somebody help me ?

May be you can post how much you have solved so far. It will be easier to help with next steps.

[ You can upload images at http://tinypic.com/ and post the link here. (See this post for details) ]
@ 2014-03-03 6:19 PM (#14526 - in reply to #14209) (#14526) Top

Realshaggy



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Realshaggy posted @ 2014-03-03 6:19 PM

 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Mini Coral
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Statue Park
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Turning Fences
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? Fair
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice


I know it's hard to coordinate difficulty with ten different puzzle makers. But I still think that a "best 8 out of 10" approach doesn't work well with such a big spread on difficulty.

However, this small scoring problems are outweighted by far by the original nature of the contest, which is a highlight of the puzzle year every time. I really enjoyed the puzzles!
@ 2014-03-03 7:01 PM (#14527 - in reply to #14209) (#14527) Top

meowme



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meowme posted @ 2014-03-03 7:01 PM

 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Statue Park
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Nanro
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Heyawake
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? Fair
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice


Really nice puzzles. While I didn't have time to do some of the puzzles (i.e. Araf, Mini Coral, Turning Fences), the other 7 I did were really elegant.

I wonder if a couple of days more were given, would the results have been better, but then again, I doubt most people are as busy (and slow) as me in solving...
@ 2014-03-03 7:36 PM (#14528 - in reply to #14209) (#14528) Top

tnv




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tnv posted @ 2014-03-03 7:36 PM

 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. 4X4 Sudoku
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Mini Coral
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Scrabble
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? Fair
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice


@ 2014-03-03 8:47 PM (#14529 - in reply to #14209) (#14529) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2014-03-03 8:47 PM

 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Turning Fences
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Araf
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Nanro
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice


@ 2014-03-03 9:50 PM (#14530 - in reply to #14209) (#14530) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2014-03-03 9:50 PM

 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Statue Park
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Araf
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Heyawake
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? Very fair
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice


@ 2014-03-04 12:24 AM (#14532 - in reply to #14209) (#14532) Top

Yason



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Yason posted @ 2014-03-04 12:24 AM

 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Scrabble
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Araf
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. KakurOH
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? Very fair
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice


@ 2014-03-04 3:13 AM (#14533 - in reply to #14209) (#14533) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2014-03-04 3:13 AM

 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Statue Park
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Turning Fences
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Araf
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice


@ 2014-03-04 4:06 AM (#14534 - in reply to #14209) (#14534) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2014-03-04 4:06 AM

 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Mini Coral
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Yajilin
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. KakurOH
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? Very fair
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice


@ 2014-03-04 5:35 AM (#14536 - in reply to #14209) (#14536) Top

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Grizix posted @ 2014-03-04 5:35 AM

Hey !

I hope it's not too hard to read my puzzle.
Is someone could give me a nudge, that would be cool.
See here : http://tinypic.com/r/24otxz8/8

Thanks anyway !
@ 2014-03-04 5:45 AM (#14537 - in reply to #14536) (#14537) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2014-03-04 5:45 AM

Grizix - 2014-03-04 5:35 AM

Hey !

I hope it's not too hard to read my puzzle.
Is someone could give me a nudge, that would be cool.
See here : http://tinypic.com/r/24otxz8/8

Thanks anyway !
You should be able to determine that the arrowed cell is 2. Otherwise, the 2 on its left remain isolated. After that the whole left region solves easily. (There are other openings, but this is how I solved.)


@ 2014-03-04 5:48 AM (#14538 - in reply to #14209) (#14538) Top

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bskbri posted @ 2014-03-04 5:48 AM

Try to solve for the clue 2 in the first column. It should give the left part of the puzzle. You will also get some constraints for the lower parts.
@ 2014-03-04 6:22 AM (#14539 - in reply to #14209) (#14539) Top

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Tablesaw posted @ 2014-03-04 6:22 AM

Is there something wrong with the "median time" calculation under details? The numbers are all under 60 minutes, even for puzzles where less than half of submitters got the bonus. If I counted rows correctly, the median for the Heyawake should be 193:18, not 44:14.
@ 2014-03-04 6:27 AM (#14540 - in reply to #14539) (#14540) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2014-03-04 6:27 AM

Tablesaw - 2014-03-04 6:22 AM

Is there something wrong with the "median time" calculation under details? The numbers are all under 60 minutes, even for puzzles where less than half of submitters got the bonus. If I counted rows correctly, the median for the Heyawake should be 193:18, not 44:14.
Median time, which is computed for bonus purpose, is actually the median time of "all submissions below 60 minutes".
As such, submissions above 60 minutes does not always reflect true timings and are not any reliable.
@ 2014-03-04 10:32 AM (#14542 - in reply to #14209) (#14542) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2014-03-04 10:32 AM

Thanks to all the authors and organizers for this wonderful test. I enjoyed this test very much and learned lot of variations which were new to me. Looking forward to more such tests and being a author of one marathon puzzle in near future.


@ 2014-03-04 12:45 PM (#14544 - in reply to #14209) (#14544) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2014-03-04 12:45 PM




We thought it'd be nice to acknowledge some of the Marathon Solvers. There is some criteria for this list - We didn't consider solvers going more than 2 hours on a single puzzle, because they might have taken a break mid-puzzle. Also, the total accumulated break time in between solving is equal to or less than an hour.

@ 2014-03-04 4:59 PM (#14546 - in reply to #14209) (#14546) Top

Grizix



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Grizix posted @ 2014-03-04 4:59 PM

Thank you for the help debmohanty !

And, wow, I'm amazed about those real marathoners.
For me, it was really a whole week of solving, with a total time of 5035:57 !
@ 2014-03-05 8:57 AM (#14521 - in reply to #14209) (#14521) Top

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Para's Puzzle Site posted @ 2014-03-05 8:57 AM

Link to original post : Puzzle #163: Turning Fences

The LMI Marathon puzzle that was solved during the competition was actually the second version. In the first version I put in some stuff that came naturally to me for this genre, but stumped the test solvers. That's why there was an easier second version, which still took a relatively long time for the test solvers. That was why I added the Tutorial on my blog, just so people would realise the basics that I had figured out when designing these puzzles.
Here is the first puzzle I wrote. There are a few similarities to the second puzzle as I kept the bits that were solved quickly in the first test solve in the puzzle. It has the same layout as the second puzzle. For those who hadn't figured out the layout, the givens are in the shape of 25 letters that spell out TURNING FENCES LMI MARATHON 3 in an inward clockwise spiral. The 3 shape is made up completely of 3's.

Enjoy, but take some time to get through it logically.

Rules for Turning Fences






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