Thread - LMI Screen Test #4 — November Sudoku Test

@ 2013-11-20 12:53 AM (#13543 - in reply to #13371) (#13543) Top

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uvo posted @ 2013-11-20 12:53 AM

Is there a way to make the scoring more transparent? I have no idea why the ranking is the way it is, for example places 19 and 20 look especially strange.

@ 2013-11-20 1:49 AM (#13545 - in reply to #13543) (#13545) Top

prasanna16391

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-11-20 1:49 AM

uvo - 2013-11-20 12:53 AM

Is there a way to make the scoring more transparent? I have no idea why the ranking is the way it is, for example places 19 and 20 look especially strange.

A few things -

B2+E5 have been canceled and points have been added considering the amount of time wasted on those two puzzles. Timothy wasted more time on them.

E4 is not considered for bonus criteria, because some had a bad experience on it with rules being misplaced. JOCs are considered separately and only their own points are removed. So, Timothy has only 6 cells wrong across the other grids (E2 and E6) and is eligible for the bonus.

We'll add a few notes explaining the scoring add-ons on the test page soon. As of now this is the gist. There is the drop down list with the choice of Points instead of Seconds where you can check about the points being given for each grid.

@ 2013-11-20 5:21 AM (#13546 - in reply to #13545) (#13546) Top

prasanna16391

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Country : India

prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-11-20 5:21 AM

prasanna16391 - 2013-11-20 1:49 AM

We'll add a few notes explaining the scoring add-ons on the test page soon. As of now this is the gist. There is the drop down list with the choice of Points instead of Seconds where you can check about the points being given for each grid.

These are now added to the test page here.

@ 2013-11-21 4:19 PM (#13552 - in reply to #13546) (#13552) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2013-11-21 4:19 PM

Score page is now final. The bonuses were activated manually based on eligibility mentioned in the Guide and on the submission page.

http://logicmastersindia.com/ST/ST4/score.asp

@ 2013-11-25 12:10 PM (#13576 - in reply to #13371) (#13576) Top

prasanna16391

Posts: 1801

Country : India

prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-11-25 12:10 PM

Bit late to posting a summary because of traveling and then falling ill. Anyway, just a few quick notes.

Firstly, congratulations to jaku111 (2982.4 points), TiiT (2882.6 points) and deu (2865.1 points), the podium finishers.
This screen test definitely had some things that were bad, pretty obviously my own doing. But the biggest positive I'll take from it is that the general format/timing/etc. seems to have been a success. I wanted many solvers to be able to attempt most of the grids, and this is what happened.

Also, about Just One Cell idea, I think its probably fine to do but it takes more checking, and probably not using variants with too many constraints.

The interface is superb as always, but as usual had some feedback directed towards it. Firstly, the color button implementation, I think, was fine. It'll stay. I'm still not sure about undo button being limited to 2/3 clicks. One change we must work to implement, especially with this easier format, is to enable a solver to visit back to a grid if the solver goes through all 30 grids with time remaining.

Thank you all for participating, and also for the feedback


	@ 2013-11-20 12:53 AM (#13543 - in reply to #13371) (#13543) Top
uvo Posts: 21 Country : Germany	uvo posted @ 2013-11-20 12:53 AM Is there a way to make the scoring more transparent? I have no idea why the ranking is the way it is, for example places 19 and 20 look especially strange.
	@ 2013-11-20 1:49 AM (#13545 - in reply to #13543) (#13545) Top
prasanna16391 Posts: 1801 Country : India	prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-11-20 1:49 AM uvo - 2013-11-20 12:53 AM Is there a way to make the scoring more transparent? I have no idea why the ranking is the way it is, for example places 19 and 20 look especially strange. A few things - B2+E5 have been canceled and points have been added considering the amount of time wasted on those two puzzles. Timothy wasted more time on them. E4 is not considered for bonus criteria, because some had a bad experience on it with rules being misplaced. JOCs are considered separately and only their own points are removed. So, Timothy has only 6 cells wrong across the other grids (E2 and E6) and is eligible for the bonus. We'll add a few notes explaining the scoring add-ons on the test page soon. As of now this is the gist. There is the drop down list with the choice of Points instead of Seconds where you can check about the points being given for each grid.
	@ 2013-11-20 5:21 AM (#13546 - in reply to #13545) (#13546) Top
prasanna16391 Posts: 1801 Country : India	prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-11-20 5:21 AM prasanna16391 - 2013-11-20 1:49 AM We'll add a few notes explaining the scoring add-ons on the test page soon. As of now this is the gist. There is the drop down list with the choice of Points instead of Seconds where you can check about the points being given for each grid. These are now added to the test page here.
	@ 2013-11-21 4:19 PM (#13552 - in reply to #13546) (#13552) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2013-11-21 4:19 PM Score page is now final. The bonuses were activated manually based on eligibility mentioned in the Guide and on the submission page. http://logicmastersindia.com/ST/ST4/score.asp
	@ 2013-11-25 12:10 PM (#13576 - in reply to #13371) (#13576) Top
prasanna16391 Posts: 1801 Country : India	prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-11-25 12:10 PM Bit late to posting a summary because of traveling and then falling ill. Anyway, just a few quick notes. Firstly, congratulations to jaku111 (2982.4 points), TiiT (2882.6 points) and deu (2865.1 points), the podium finishers. This screen test definitely had some things that were bad, pretty obviously my own doing. But the biggest positive I'll take from it is that the general format/timing/etc. seems to have been a success. I wanted many solvers to be able to attempt most of the grids, and this is what happened. Also, about Just One Cell idea, I think its probably fine to do but it takes more checking, and probably not using variants with too many constraints. The interface is superb as always, but as usual had some feedback directed towards it. Firstly, the color button implementation, I think, was fine. It'll stay. I'm still not sure about undo button being limited to 2/3 clicks. One change we must work to implement, especially with this easier format, is to enable a solver to visit back to a grid if the solver goes through all 30 grids with time remaining. Thank you all for participating, and also for the feedback