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prasanna16391
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Country : India | Few notes :
Firstly, we're making some changes to the score page now (computing bonus, canceling B2/E5 using my previous suggestion, and computing the changes ). So if the score page does weird things for a while today, please bear with us 
Secondly, we're not considering E4 errors for the bonus, and the bonus will be computed for the rest as announced. Something that isn't announced is, even players who have just one Sudoku wrong are eligible for bonus. So its either players who have just one grid wrong, or players who have 10 cells wrong across multiple grids.
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-11-17 6:57 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Very fair | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Average | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-11-17 7:33 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Bit unfair | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Fairly Nice | |
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Puzlifouk
Posts: 67
Country : France | Very pleasant time. I usually don't play Sudoku contests, but this one was very attractive. It would have been better for me to unterstand what "Converse rule applies" meant... |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-11-17 10:02 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Very fair | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Very nice | |
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Semax
Posts: 10
Country : Germany | Semax posted @ 2013-11-17 10:21 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | A bit easy | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too few puzzles | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Fair | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Fairly Nice | |
Overall it's a fairly nice test, I enjoyed it. It's a bit unfortunate that there was no JOC example in the test case. For submitting, after ten puzzles without popup I was pretty sure I had done something very very bad when there was a popup after the eleventh puzzle. I was confused and read the popup twice very carefully, just to more than double my solving time. And another little thing that I don't understand: Why is there an automatic submission after 5 minutes? There are so many situations where this is bad. Can you tell me one situation where this is good? |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-11-17 10:30 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | A bit skewed | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | A bit hard | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Fair | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Very nice | |
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Aras
Posts: 2
Country : Turkey | Aras posted @ 2013-11-17 11:45 PM | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Average | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Fairly Nice | |
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vopani
Posts: 739
Country : India | vopani posted @ 2013-11-18 2:15 AM I finally got to participate in an LMI screen test! (after co-authoring the first, authoring the second and testing the third).
Even though the B2: Repeated Neighbours has issues, I wanted to share what I did.
'3' cannot occur in R5C1, R5C2, R5C3, R6C2 due to the puzzle rules. If '3' is in R6C3, it also has to be in R5C4 but since it is a 'Just One Cell' sudoku (so, non-unique), I submitted R6C1 as '3'.
Pretty cheeky huh? Did anyone else get this weird funda? ;-)
Also, an interesting thought about using 'uniqueness' in Just One Cell, it sounds funny though.
Edited by Rohan Rao 2013-11-18 2:30 AM
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Fred76
Posts: 337
Country : Switzerland | Fred76 posted @ 2013-11-18 2:46 AM Rohan Rao - 2013-11-18 2:15 AM
I finally got to participate in an LMI screen test! (after co-authoring the first, authoring the second and testing the third).
Even though the B2: Repeated Neighbours has issues, I wanted to share what I did.
'3' cannot occur in R5C1, R5C2, R5C3, R6C2 due to the puzzle rules. If '3' is in R6C3, it also has to be in R5C4 but since it is a 'Just One Cell' sudoku (so, non-unique), I submitted R6C1 as '3'.
Pretty cheeky huh? Did anyone else get this weird funda? ;-)
Also, an interesting thought about using 'uniqueness' in Just One Cell, it sounds funny though. Hey my friend-despite-the-fact-you took-part-in-WPC, Interesting reasoning, although it is wrong. 
"...If '3' is in R6C3, it also has to be in R5C4..." you can conclude that 3 in R6C3 is not the answer of the JOC sudoku, but you can't conclude that 3 cannot be placed in R6C3 (it can be one of the multiple solution ).
I was in such a hurry about submitting my solution after having found the 3 in R5C4 that I didn't thought that it could not be possible, as it has to be in R6C3 as well (what I've seen however ).
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-11-18 3:36 AM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Very fair | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Very nice | |
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joshuazucker
Posts: 31
Country : United States | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Very fair | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Fairly Nice | |
Lots of fun! Some of them were pretty darn hard, but most of them were perfect for the quick online solve. It was definitely in reach even for someone like me to finish within the time limit. A few of them were a lot harder to do without a pencil! A good memory exercise for me to see how much of that I could keep in my head. The colors interface would have been nice for bifurcating at times if I could have figured out how to make it work for me instead of changing the color of everything when I clicked on a color. |
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joshuazucker
Posts: 31
Country : United States | Oh, forgot to mention: the popup warning about just one cell was very confusing because I had filled in just one cell! So I worried that somehow the interface thought that I had submitted a puzzle with a non-1 number of filled-in cells. It would be nice to be warned about the warning. |
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weckdippy
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Country : India | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | A bit hard | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Very nice | |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | joshuazucker - 2013-11-18 4:07 AM
Oh, forgot to mention: the popup warning about just one cell was very confusing because I had filled in just one cell! So I worried that somehow the interface thought that I had submitted a puzzle with a non-1 number of filled-in cells. It would be nice to be warned about the warning.
(Semax's point too ) I agree, we should've said that this will happen. That'll be noted for next time (if at all we do variant JOCs again, that requires a think through in itself ), and having a JOC in the example series on interface is also a good idea.
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rajeshk
Posts: 542
Country : India | rajeshk posted @ 2013-11-18 12:16 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Very fair | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Fairly Nice | |
In the solving interface, it would have to better if we could have been given different colors for backtracking the puzzles. |
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IGy
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Country : Hungary | IGy posted @ 2013-11-18 1:10 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Fair | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Very nice | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-11-18 2:26 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Very fair | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Very nice | |
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vopani
Posts: 739
Country : India | vopani posted @ 2013-11-18 5:20 PM Fred76 - 2013-11-18 2:46 AM
Hey my friend-despite-the-fact-you took-part-in-WPC, Interesting reasoning, although it is wrong.
Yes, I am also an 'exception' B- ) B- )
"...If '3' is in R6C3, it also has to be in R5C4..." you can conclude that 3 in R6C3 is not the answer of the JOC sudoku, but you can't conclude that 3 cannot be placed in R6C3 (it can be one of the multiple solution).
I was in such a hurry about submitting my solution after having found the 3 in R5C4 that I didn't thought that it could not be possible, as it has to be in R6C3 as well (what I've seen however).
Fred
I know, I feel so stupid. I had a hearty laugh after I realized what I did. |
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detuned
Posts: 152
Country : United Kingdom | detuned posted @ 2013-11-18 5:51 PM Can't remember if I made this point before - I think I did for a previous screen test - but having an "undo" button seems to take away the whole point of doing things in your head. I certainly made liberal (ab)use of it... |
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detuned
Posts: 152
Country : United Kingdom | detuned posted @ 2013-11-18 5:59 PM I'd also like to know what is "incorrect" with my E5 - JOC5 - Killer solution.
I entered R1C4 as a 6. The reasoning goes like this: 13 in the bottom right is either 256 or 346 - either way we certainly can't have R6C4 as 6. By the law of leftovers this means R1C3 cannot be a 6. The 6 in R1 must therefore go in C4 because it can't be part of a 7 or 8 cage...
edit: n/m I see e5 seems to be missing on the results page, i assume it's a bad puzzle...
Edited by detuned 2013-11-18 6:26 PM
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-11-18 6:27 PM | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Average | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Average | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-11-18 8:21 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Very fair | | | What is your opinion about the solving interface? | Very nice | |
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tamz29
Posts: 225
Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2013-11-18 8:58 PM A nice set of puzzles. I underestimated myself and decided to skip two of the JOCs and end up finishing 20 minutes early. :( |
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rob
Posts: 170
Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2013-11-18 9:17 PM detuned - 2013-11-18 5:51 PM
Can't remember if I made this point before - I think I did for a previous screen test - but having an "undo" button seems to take away the whole point of doing things in your head. I certainly made liberal (ab)use of it...
I agree, felt a lot faster on the harder puzzles once I started trying out things. Maybe one or two levels of undo to deal with actual typos? |
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