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@ 2013-06-30 3:30 PM (#11458 - in reply to #11447) (#11458) Top

yoshimasa



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yoshimasa posted @ 2013-06-30 3:30 PM

debmohanty - 2013-06-30 2:16 PM

yoshimasa - 2013-06-30 10:15 AM

Hi,

I had fun this great test, but found a bug.
In "toroidal", I couldn't move my cursor at point (7, 3) in online sudoku grid.
Could you confirm?

yoshimasa
I think it was R1C7 in toroidal. Fixed now.


Sorry my typo, and that was right. Thanks for your service
@ 2013-06-30 4:00 PM (#11459 - in reply to #11443) (#11459) Top

Gabrieleud



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Gabrieleud posted @ 2013-06-30 4:00 PM

john_reid - 2013-06-30 8:28 AM
[...] I spent a LONG time tackling several of the earlier puzzles that were 20 points or less, only to find after time was up that MANY of the puzzles worth a lot of points were FAR easier - including the 55 pointer which had no logical roadblocks along the solve at all! I know that comments like that are subjective, so I'd like to hear what other solvers' experiences were. Thanks to the constructors for the puzzles, though, they were fun... I was just a little disappointed this time with the points layout.


I agree with you. The 55 pointer was not *that* hard, until you properly understand how to determinate the 9 wrong numbers on each side. With that done, it was a puzzle that still required a bit of work where other puzzles didn't. Hence, we decided to raise the value, in compensation of the time you might have used to solve this one. Some of the classic sudoku were harder than they were worth, in my mind, but really they had one or two hard points to cross over. We decided for lower points at these classic because they're basically grounded on a well-known logic, with no tricks, or things-to-know-before.
@ 2013-06-30 4:09 PM (#11460 - in reply to #11250) (#11460) Top

joshuazucker



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joshuazucker posted @ 2013-06-30 4:09 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too few pages / too small grids


I agree with the comments that the last 55 pointer was a lot easier than some of the others worth much less -- on the other hand, it was pretty clear from the practice puzzles that this was likely to be the case, once you see how to use the rules of this variant things go pretty quickly.

I particularly enjoyed the coded killer and the 1011.
@ 2013-06-30 6:10 PM (#11461 - in reply to #11250) (#11461) Top

rajeshk




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rajeshk posted @ 2013-06-30 6:10 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-30 6:26 PM (#11462 - in reply to #11250) (#11462) Top

detuned



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detuned posted @ 2013-06-30 6:26 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


Great test! one tiny tiny complaint was the formatting of the letter killer, where the cages were too heavy and the major gridlines too faint. Well done to the organisers :)
@ 2013-06-30 7:53 PM (#11463 - in reply to #11250) (#11463) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-06-30 7:53 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-30 8:09 PM (#11464 - in reply to #11250) (#11464) Top

Yuhei Kusui



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Yuhei Kusui posted @ 2013-06-30 8:09 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit easy
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I couldn't find a clear logical way to solve Tripod...
@ 2013-06-30 8:40 PM (#11465 - in reply to #11250) (#11465) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2013-06-30 8:40 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thank you very much for the lovely test.
@ 2013-06-30 9:11 PM (#11466 - in reply to #11250) (#11466) Top

SKnight



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SKnight posted @ 2013-06-30 9:11 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-30 9:33 PM (#11467 - in reply to #11250) (#11467) Top

wicktroll



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wicktroll posted @ 2013-06-30 9:33 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-30 10:13 PM (#11468 - in reply to #11250) (#11468) Top

sanket



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sanket posted @ 2013-06-30 10:13 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-30 11:09 PM (#11469 - in reply to #11250) (#11469) Top

UllaE



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UllaE posted @ 2013-06-30 11:09 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit easy
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Personally, I expect that I cannot solve the hardest (most points) puzzle in the set. This time though, Three is a Crowd was "easy" in that perspective, so thus I would say that the whole set was easier than usually. On the other hand, I spent almost equal amount of time in Kropki.

Nevertheless, there seems to be enough puzzles to compensate the "easiness" so that usual amount of top solvers finishes all of them.

And big thanks to all of the Sudoku GP organizers!!! It was great fun!
@ 2013-06-30 11:34 PM (#11470 - in reply to #11250) (#11470) Top

rob



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rob posted @ 2013-06-30 11:34 PM

Had the same experience as others regarding point distribution. There's a general expectation that point distribution scales with expected solving time in some way (often linearly, at least monotonously?). I think it's fine to deviate from that, but maybe it would be worth announcing?

Also stumped by the tripod, would appreciate some hints for the break-in.
@ 2013-06-30 11:54 PM (#11471 - in reply to #11250) (#11471) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-06-30 11:54 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit easy
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Random point distribution made this contest a bit inequitable and unpredictable.
@ 2013-07-01 2:43 AM (#11472 - in reply to #11250) (#11472) Top

lenzo




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lenzo posted @ 2013-07-01 2:43 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right


@ 2013-07-01 3:55 AM (#11473 - in reply to #11250) (#11473) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-07-01 3:55 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-07-01 4:06 AM (#11474 - in reply to #11250) (#11474) Top

mahoned_91770



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mahoned_91770 posted @ 2013-07-01 4:06 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-07-01 4:43 AM (#11475 - in reply to #11250) (#11475) Top

Eykir



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Eykir posted @ 2013-07-01 4:43 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-07-01 5:08 AM (#11476 - in reply to #11250) (#11476) Top

Realshaggy



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Realshaggy posted @ 2013-07-01 5:08 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit easy
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-07-01 5:53 PM (#11483 - in reply to #11250) (#11483) Top

riccared



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riccared posted @ 2013-07-01 5:53 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-07-01 6:18 PM (#11485 - in reply to #11250) (#11485) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-07-01 6:18 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-07-01 7:10 PM (#11486 - in reply to #11250) (#11486) Top

starmusic



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starmusic posted @ 2013-07-01 7:10 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Nice conclusion to the series. Especially enjoyed the layout and logic paths in 1011. I enjoy the 3s a crowd type though was a little disappointed the solve was straightforward and there wasn't higher order sudoku logic needed. Thank you to the puzzle writers!


@ 2013-07-01 7:53 PM (#11487 - in reply to #11250) (#11487) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-07-01 7:53 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-07-01 8:01 PM (#11488 - in reply to #11250) (#11488) Top

Desert tornado



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Desert tornado posted @ 2013-07-01 8:01 PM

Hw do i get the password for opening the docunment for the competition
@ 2013-07-01 8:33 PM (#11489 - in reply to #11488) (#11489) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-07-01 8:33 PM

Desert tornado - 2013-07-01 8:01 PM

Hw do i get the password for opening the docunment for the competition


Login on the Submission page. Click "Start Sudoku Grand Prix" and password will appear, along with a timer counting down from 120 minutes.

Also check this page for more details.
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