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Country : India | LMI announces July Puzzle Test named EverGreens
Puzzles are written by Amit Sowani and Deb Mohanty
Pre-tested by Rajesh Kumar
Date - Weekend of 03/04 July
Basic Puzzles types
Length - 100 minutes
Instruction booklet will be published on 21-Jun is published here |
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Country : India | Will take a day more to publish the IB. |
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Amit
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| Amit posted @ 2010-06-22 4:20 PM How can I participate in this puzzles... |
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Country : India | Instruction Booklet uploaded here
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Country : India | Amit - 2010-06-22 4:20 PM
How can I participate in this puzzles... Amit, Download the Instruction Booklet. Go through the rules. If you have questions, please post here. |
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Country : India | Why EverGreens?
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At LogicMastersIndia, we have many members who belong to I-love-Sudokus-But-Not-Puzzles group.
"EverGreens" is our attempt to introduce puzzles to them.
It has only the "basic" or "classic" type of puzzles. There will be many easy puzzles in this test.
There are also enough difficult puzzles to challenge the experienced puzzle solvers.
Hope everyone likes the test.
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Country : India | Are these all?
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These are not all the basic / classic type of puzzles. There are definitely lot of other basic types.
It is not possible to cover all types in one test, given that we decided to have 2 puzzles per type. [ And also that we wanted to limit the test to 100 minutes or so. ]
So, may be we'll have EverGreens Part II - depending upon players' interest and response
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Country : India | Keeping in trend with the Sudoku tests, we'll be publishing the results are soon as a player finishes the test. However, we need everyone's help here.
[red] Please stick to the answer format.[/red]
1. Don't enter 'blank spaces' or comma or any other special characters. The only exception is Battleships where you enter commas between the co-ordinates.
2. If you are expected to enter '5', don't enter 'FIVE'
The submission site is designed such that it will warn you when you are entering in a format that we don't expect.
While submitting, please make sure that you don't have any warnings in red color.
However, even if you have warnings, your submission will be successful, and eventually you might be awarded if you enter 'FIVE' for '5' after manual check.
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adityasaraf007
Posts: 45
Country : India | It would be great if step-by-step solution of the newer variants are shown here. Puzzles like Battleship, Paint by number, minesweeper, as easy as abcd, kakuro can be left out as they are relatively known to the sudoku crowd as well.
I think this way we (those who belong to I-love-Sudokus-But-Not-Puzzles group) will be able to understand how to start the puzzles. As starting the puzzles is the most difficult part for us. |
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adityasaraf007
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Country : India | In fact, if we left out the above mentioned 5 puzzles, then there are 8 newer variants in this test. If the solution of 1 puzzle is posted everyday, then we would be able to finish this by 2nd July (well before when the test begins) |
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Country : India | adityasaraf007 - 2010-06-24 9:36 PM
In fact, if we left out the above mentioned 5 puzzles, then there are 8 newer variants in this test. If the solution of 1 puzzle is posted everyday, then we would be able to finish this by 2nd July (well before when the test begins)
Are you thinking about something like this?
Step-by-Step solution to Loop Finder
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adityasaraf007
Posts: 45
Country : India | That is exactly what I meant (infact even better). Thank you very much |
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vopani
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Country : India | vopani posted @ 2010-06-26 9:35 AM @Deb
This is soo cool! :-) |
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adityasaraf007
Posts: 45
Country : India | Can't we do it like this.
Is it because we want to find out the no. of turns by the loop
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Country : India | Aditya, If we allow the red lines as you have shown, there will be 2 loops. (one small loop and another big loop)
That is not allowed. As per the instruction "Draw a single continuous loop that visits all dots. ....."
The answer key is "The number of turns made by the loop" - That has got nothing to do with what the solution should be. [ The answer key will never govern what the solution should be. Since we don't have mechanism to solve the puzzles online, we have to rely on answer keys like many other online puzzle contests]
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adityasaraf007
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Country : India | Oh, thanks for clarification.
It didn't cross my mind, that in this scenario, two loops are formed. |
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Country : India |  |  | | Start | 9 at R2C3 can't be black. If it is black
R1C3 and R3C3 both will be white,
but both are 9 |  |  | | Only one 9 possible in Row2 and Col3 | Blacks don't touch each other |  |  | 2 at R2C4 is white, else 9 at R2C3
will be closed. [ All the whites must
be connected to each other orthogonally].
2 at R2C5 becomes black | Blacks don't touch each other |  |  | 4 at R1C1 and 7 at R3C1 has to be
white, else 5 at R1C2 can't connect
to other whites. | 7 at R4C1 becomes black.
3 at R4C2 becomes white |  |  | 3 at R4C5 becomes black.
5 At R5C5 becomes white. | 5 At R5C3 becomes white. |
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neerajmehrotra
Posts: 329
Country : India | This is really cool..........thanx a lot Deb
Can we have arrows now and then the Dominoes......... |
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vopani
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Country : India | vopani posted @ 2010-06-27 8:04 PM I think it will nice to have the solutions of the actual puzzles after the test is completed. |
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neerajmehrotra
Posts: 329
Country : India | yeah.that will be fine but i am not able to get the start in the arrows and dominoes in the IB |
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Country : India | Domino solution steps attached.
Note that the examples for Domino and Arrows are actually little difficult. Attachments ----------------  DominoExample.xlsx (36KB - 25 downloads) |
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neerajmehrotra
Posts: 329
Country : India | thanx a lot Deb....u have made my life easy..........I cud do the Dominoes comfortably......still waiting for the starting clue for arrows |
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Country : India | Neeraj,
The arrows example is tough and needs T&E.
We've replaced with an easier example. Download the updated IB. You should be able to solve it with ease.
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neerajmehrotra
Posts: 329
Country : India | thanx a lot |
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Country : India | Notes about Puzzle Booklet
The Puzzle Booklet does not have the examples.
So, if you want to refer to the examples while solving, please keep a printed copy of the IB handy
The Puzzle Booklet has the instructions for puzzles, but it does not have the instructions for answer key.
Instruction for answer key is available in the IB and also in the website for submission
The puzzles are numbered for 01-25 in the Puzzle Booklet and also in the submission website. This will help you submit puzzles in any order you need.
The puzzles will be in green color - if that distracts you, please print in b/w printer :-)
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Country : India | Players can check their scores 100 minutes after they start the test.
As per a suggestion somewhere else in forum, players can see their own score - and not others.
If someone finds problems with their score, please report here.
Don't post answers - just post the Puzzle and your id.
After the Test is over, full results will be available.
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Fred76
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Country : Switzerland | Fred76 posted @ 2010-07-03 4:19 PM I've no time to do this test, but I'll print it and do grids in the train ! 
Fred Edited by Fred76 2010-07-03 4:19 PM
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peluri
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Country : Finland | peluri posted @ 2010-07-03 4:49 PM Battleships: It is not required anywhere that the answer should be in alphabetical order (** e.g.), and a reverse order (**) has been judged incorrect (**-* for me).
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Country : India | peluri - 2010-07-03 4:49 PM
Battleships: It is not required anywhere that the answer should be in alphabetical order (** e.g.), and a reverse order (**) has been judged incorrect (**-* for me).
Added 50 points to your score. Please check your score again. |
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debmohanty
Country : India | Fred76 - 2010-07-03 4:19 PM
I've no time to do this test, but I'll print it and do grids in the train !
Fred Will miss you, Fred!
You are one the most regular players here :- ) |
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neerajmehrotra
Posts: 329
Country : India | Cud not do very well. Deb can u mail me the answer of puzzle 19 Minesweeper............. |
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manyeizma
Posts: 2
Country : Turkey | i entered the co-ordinates of battleship puzzle invertedly. i first entered the left letters and after the top letters. is it possible to give point to them? |
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Country : India | manyeizma - 2010-07-03 5:52 PM
i entered the co-ordinates of battleship puzzle invertedly. i first entered the left letters and after the top letters. is it possible to give point to them? Marked 50 for P06. Check your answer for P05, you have typed same co-ordinates twice. Bad typing mistake. |
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manyeizma
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Country : Turkey | ok! yes you are right. thanks |
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debmohanty
Country : India | neerajmehrotra - 2010-07-03 5:14 PM
Cud not do very well. Deb can u mail me the answer of puzzle 19 Minesweeper............. Sent. |
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pscoe2
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Country : India | pscoe2 posted @ 2010-07-03 6:59 PM I uploaded the arrows solution in the wrong arrows :( ...
Lost 65 points due to that
Edited by pscoe2 2010-07-03 6:59 PM
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KimKing
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Country : Malaysia | KimKing posted @ 2010-07-03 7:31 PM I make many mistakes... and once again this is the hardest mock for me..  but it is enjoyable.. thanks.. p/s : please check my battleship answers too.. |
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neerajmehrotra
Posts: 329
Country : India | thanx...............an excellent set of puzzles. |
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tamz29
Posts: 225
Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2010-07-03 8:28 PM Thanks for the great puzzle set!
Edited by tamz29 2010-07-03 8:31 PM
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tamz29
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Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2010-07-03 9:24 PM The puzzles were great. But the answer key seems to be a problem.
I lost 115 points from my own carelessness. (Both Zig-zags and the first arrow)
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However, I also lost an additional 80 points from both battleships:
The answer required:
xx,xx,xx,xx (no spaces)
I put:
xx, xx, xx, xx (with spaces)
Can these be counted correct??
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Country : India | KimKing - 2010-07-03 7:31 PM
I make many mistakes... and once again this is the hardest mock for me.. but it is enjoyable.. thanks.. p/s : please check my battleship answers too.. done. please check your score. |
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Country : India | tamz29 - 2010-07-03 9:24 PM
The puzzles were great. But the answer key seems to be a problem.
I lost 115 points from my own carelessness. (Both Zig-zags and the first arrow)
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However, I also lost an additional 80 points from both battleships:
The answer required:
xx,xx,xx,xx (no spaces)
I put:
xx, xx, xx, xx (with spaces)
Can these be counted correct??
Added 80 points for battleships. |
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Country : India | Request all new users participating in EverGreens to update their Country.
After logging in you can click here OR go to Settings.
In the Location field, please update enter your country.
Will be nice to update the Real Names too. |
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forcolin
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Country : ITALY | it has been a beautiful contest, thank you for organizing it. Pity I entered the result of magnet 2 too late.
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Jitterbug
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Country : United States | Is it possible to get credit for the battleship solution - I listed the correct location pairs, but they were also inverted |
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Country : India | Jitterbug - 2010-07-04 4:32 AM
Is it possible to get credit for the battleship solution - I listed the correct location pairs, but they were also inverted Done |
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janoslaw
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Country : Poland | neerajmehrotra - 2010-07-03 5:14 PM
Cud not do very well. Deb can u mail me the answer of puzzle 19 Minesweeper.............
I am not sure only solution of that puzzle (19 minesweeper ), because I see at least a few solutions.
Anybody agree with me? |
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debmohanty
Country : India | janoslaw - 2010-07-04 1:45 PM
I am not sure only solution of that puzzle (19 minesweeper), because I see at least a few solutions.
Anybody agree with me? Jan,
I solved it again, but could not find any problem.
But possibly, I could miss something again and again. I've mailed you the solution. Email me if you think there could be other answers.
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Akuma21
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Country : ITALY | Akuma21 posted @ 2010-07-04 3:51 PM "Is it possible to get credit for the battleship solution - I listed the correct location pairs, but they were also inverted"
I had also this problem
Tamz, i have lost 215 points for my slowness! :( |
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Country : India | Akuma21 - 2010-07-04 3:51 PM
"Is it possible to get credit for the battleship solution - I listed the correct location pairs, but they were also inverted"
I had also this problem
Tamz, i have lost 215 points for my slowness! :(
Akuma21, Given you points for Battleships and Minesweeper. |
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GaS
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Country : ITALY | GaS posted @ 2010-07-04 4:18 PM Alas, I make mistakes in 3 different answers, not good at all.
Thanks very much for the beautiful contest! |
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Akuma21
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Country : ITALY | Akuma21 posted @ 2010-07-04 4:23 PM also for Minesweeper?? thanks too much!! But i have a question.
Are you sure that puzzle number 12 is correct?
i have tried to do it and i find 2 different areas not connect between them. Can anyone send me the right answer? thanks |
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Country : India | Akuma21 - 2010-07-04 4:23 PM
also for Minesweeper?? thanks too much!! But i have a question.
Are you sure that puzzle number 12 is correct?
i have tried to do it and i find 2 different areas not connect between them. Can anyone send me the right answer? thanks Sent you answer for puzzle 12 at your email id (g******i@yahoo.it )
Your minesweeper answer is correct. The entered format is wrong. So points are awarded.
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Akuma21
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Country : ITALY | Akuma21 posted @ 2010-07-04 5:14 PM sorry for my mistake but i want to say p 11 not p 12 :(
Could you send me another time? |
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Akuma21
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Country : ITALY | Akuma21 posted @ 2010-07-04 6:09 PM thanks a lot! |
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dodine
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Country : Luxembourg | dodine posted @ 2010-07-04 6:09 PM "Is it possible to get credit for the battleship solution - I listed the correct location pairs, but they were also inverted"
I had also this problem
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Country : India | dodine - 2010-07-04 6:09 PM
"Is it possible to get credit for the battleship solution - I listed the correct location pairs, but they were also inverted"
I had also this problem
Added 80 points to your score. |
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neerajmehrotra
Posts: 329
Country : India | Guys Old system was better.................When we used to get the detailed results of all the participants.............waiting for the results is quite boring............... |
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gauravkorde
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Country : India | what is the method of writing the answer key in battleship? i think i have the right solutions for both.
and a stupid mistake in kakuro :(
anyways a great MT to begin. I know these are some of the easiest puzzles one can get from Deb and even these were tough for me. :D |
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Eugene
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Country : Russia | Eugene posted @ 2010-07-05 2:01 AM Chek, pleas, my answer for the P06 - battleships. I just wrote it without commas. |
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hopppe
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Country : Germany | hopppe posted @ 2010-07-05 2:30 AM Hallöchen!
Greetings from Germany!
This was really a goodPuzzle Test! Thanx alot! 
But I have three questions:
1 ) My first Domino-Puzzle is Ok, but I wrote x, instead x+1, because I could not count!!! Is there a chance for some points...
2 ) My second Minesweeper-Puzzle is right, but I wrote y in the seventh row, instead y+1, because I am not able to count...chance?
3 ) My both Zig-Zag-Puzzle are right, but I count all horizontal and vertical line segments, but not the constinous one, but I count the sum of all horizontal and vertical segments! Is there....a....chance?
But now I´m very happy about this fine PuzzleTest...I´m waiting for the next!
Greetings from hopppe
I´ve a question at last: my clock is 30 minutes after the real time! Is it possible to chance this? Edited by hopppe 2010-07-05 2:32 AM
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Eugene
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Country : Russia | Eugene posted @ 2010-07-05 2:55 AM hopppe - 2010-07-05 2:30 AM
3) My both Zig-Zag-Puzzle are right, but I count all horizontal and vertical line segments, but not the constinous one, but I count the sum of all horizontal and vertical segments! Is there....a....chance?
+1. But when I count the sum for P24 I make mistake. But the sum of all horizontal and vertical segments for P25 is right. |
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Ziti
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Country : United States | Ziti posted @ 2010-07-05 3:38 AM Terrific work as always. Thank you very much for the fun.
Magnets #2 really got me for awhile! I had very little time to finish it on my third try and guessed where I made my mistake the first two times. Fixing that made it work with 25sec left! A pity I could not count horizontal line segments in my otherwise correct VUVUZELA puzzle.
Have a great week! I look forward to more puzzle fun from the brilliant folks from India! :) |
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debmohanty
Country : India | Jason,
Feeling sorry for you as lost so many bonus points because of the counting error.
Deb
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martosss
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Country : Bulgaria | Very nice contest! I've got 3 wrong (counting problems ), but I'm still satisfied with thwe format - many and not so hard problems. Couldn't solve all of them, but next time probably :P |
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detuned
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Country : United Kingdom | detuned posted @ 2010-07-05 4:46 AM So I reckon I'm down 125 points due to entering wrong answers having solved the puzzles correctly - I'm glad I'm not the only one who messed up the zig-zag count here, although I did manage to mess both of those up! Missing one square in my count on the 2nd fences was particularly galling, as was typo-ing the 1st kakuro. C'est la vie.
I thought the kakuro were pretty lame, the hitori a bit fiddly, but otherwise an excellent selection of puzzles. Hopefully I can improve on squandering 15% of my points away next time! |
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Country : India | All the answers for Battleships have been checked manually.
Please check and post here if you are not awarded the points for your answer
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davep
Posts: 43
Country : United States | davep posted @ 2010-07-05 5:23 AM Hi Deb --I am (yet another) solver who didn't input my battleship answer in the right format -- pls advise if my answers were, nonetheless, correct.In any case, a very enjoyable mock -- my compliments to you and your crew!Best regards,davep.s. I just realized what I did wrong; namely putting spaces between each set, i.e. xx, xx, xx, xx -- instead of xx,xx,xx,xx
Edited by davep 2010-07-05 5:39 AM
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Country : India | Dave, added 80 points to your score. |
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Country : India | Congratulations to Hideaki, Ulrich and Snyder for topping EverGreens.
Congratulations to Janka1,tarotaro,Japan,Philipp,Nikola,Shinichi Aoki for getting bonus points.
Many thanks to all the participants. It was a huge success for LMI, with 181 participants out of which 138 got non-zero scores.
If you have suggestions / feedbacks / comments on the submission system, please post in this thread.
Thanks once again for participating in EverGreens. Hope to see you all back in Classic Look-Alikes |
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purifire
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Country : India | Ziti - 2010-07-05 3:38 AM
Terrific work as always. Thank you very much for the fun.
Have a great week! I look forward to more puzzle fun from the brilliant folks from India! :)
Thanks Jason,
It is a nice little global community forming here and we intend to continue it.... This would not have been possible without support from all the players who take time out to solve the puzzles... So the credit in turn goes to all of you : )
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Country : India | Thanks to Rajesh Kumar for pre-testing all the puzzles in a very short time period. |
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Tejal Phatak
Posts: 81
Country : India | It was a very good Puzzle Mock, the puzzles were quite easy (at least the small pointers)... enjoyed solving most of them! :) |
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neerajmehrotra
Posts: 329
Country : India | LOGIC MASTER INDIA ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!! |
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anurag
Posts: 136
Country : India | anurag posted @ 2010-07-05 9:26 PM I had sent a solution which differed by 2 digits on the vertical counts . Probably,Jan is right. But i m not sure,as didnt look back at it. |
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Country : India | anurag - 2010-07-05 9:26 PM
I had sent a solution which differed by 2 digits on the vertical counts . Probably,Jan is right. But i m not sure,as didnt look back at it.
Anurag, You have to use the given number of mines (i.e. 24 in the first and 18 in the second ).
If you have other solutions than what is posted here, please share. |
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anurag
Posts: 136
Country : India | anurag posted @ 2010-07-06 5:20 PM I had used 18 mines.Did not save the solution. |
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debmohanty
Country : India | anurag - 2010-07-06 5:20 PM
I had used 18 mines.Did not save the solution.
So, basically you are saying there are multiple solutions? |
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anurag
Posts: 136
Country : India | anurag posted @ 2010-07-06 5:29 PM a little confusion here.Not the minesweeper, the larger hitori i thought i had solved correct. Sorry for the confusion |
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debmohanty
Country : India | hmm... ok. thanks for clarifying.
The solution to big Hitori is attached below.
I'm pretty confident that it has unique solution.
I would request you to give it one more try.
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anurag
Posts: 136
Country : India | anurag posted @ 2010-07-09 4:08 PM Oh.then i did not solve it correctly. |