![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2011-03-06 11:14 AM |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2011-03-06 11:16 AM Logic Masters India announces March Puzzle Test — Hybrids Author : Bram de Laat Date : 12th and 13th March Length : 120 minutes IB and Submission Link : Here Puzzle Types : 10 common types and their Hybrids. And one "Xtra Puzzles Section" |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2011-03-06 5:27 PM Notes about Corral - As mentioned in the IB, Normal corral includes the cell itself. The puzzle has been changed it here to keep in line with the seethrough to avoid counting mistakes. |
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Posts: 315 ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2011-03-06 7:27 PM Small revision in the Instruction booklet for the Star Battle Answer Key instructions. It now reads correctly how to enter the answer key: Enter the rows and/or columns where the size 2 and 3 ships lie. |
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Posts: 12 Country : India | Neeraj posted @ 2011-03-07 12:54 PM for OUTSIDE SKYSCRAPER SUDOKU doesn't the clue tells about that particular row/column which indicates?? Check out the clue "1 4". 1 says its in the 2X3 box and the 4 tells about the skyscraper. so 1 should be present in that column and the corresponding 2X3 box... but it is not.... |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2011-03-07 1:04 PM Neeraj - 2011-03-07 12:54 PM for OUTSIDE SKYSCRAPER SUDOKU doesn't the clue tells about that particular row/column which indicates?? Check out the clue "1 4". 1 says its in the 2X3 box and the 4 tells about the skyscraper. so 1 should be present in that column and the corresponding 2X3 box... but it is not.... Between 1 and 4, you've to determine which one is Skyscraper clue and which one is Outside clue. It is written in the instructions. This process is part of solving. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2011-03-07 9:10 PM Instructions in Chinese - http://www.sudokufans.org.cn/forums/index.php?showtopic=234 - Thanks to Minfang Lin |
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Posts: 81 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | Tejal Phatak posted @ 2011-03-08 1:16 PM Looking forward to this test :) |
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Posts: 739 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | vopani posted @ 2011-03-08 9:57 PM I did not understand 'Dice' and 'Alphanumeric Dice'. |
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Posts: 315 ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2011-03-08 10:45 PM The rules are that each puzzle has a set of 6-sided dice. Either 3 or 4 Dice. For Dice. On each die there are 6 letters, one on each side/face. All letters are different. The example puzzle has 3 die, so a total of 18 letters. When you were to roll the dice, 3 letters will show on top, one from each die. The given words all thus have a letter from each die. You have to figure out which 6 letters are on each die, so that the given words can be rolled using those 3 dice. The actual puzzle will have 4 dice, so a total of 24 letters. Alphanumeric dice has basically the same premise, except now each die has a letter and a digit from 1-6 on each side/face. Each die will have each digit from 1-6 once, like a normal die. The 3 die puzzle again has 18 different letters. The 4 die puzzle has 24 different letters. Now if you were to roll the dice, 4 letters and 4 digits will show on top. In this puzzle you are given the 4 letters rolled and the sum of those 4 digits (just like in the ABC puzzle). Now you have to figure out which letter and digit are on the 6 sides/faces of each die, so that the given words can be rolled with the given sums. (ps. you can check the last icon from the banner to visualise how such a die would look) I hope this is clearer. If not, can you let me know what exactly you don't understand. It's different from the regular puzzles as it's not a grid based puzzle, it's a logic based puzzle though. Edited by Para 2011-03-08 10:49 PM |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2011-03-08 10:48 PM Rohan, See the logo ( the last of the 6 boxes) for example of how an Alphanumeric die would look like. |
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Posts: 739 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | vopani posted @ 2011-03-09 5:50 PM Ok. Thanks, I understood the puzzle now. The instruction says 'You have a set of 3 dice' and then it says '...that are rolled with those 4 dice', so I felt I was missing something. I assume the 4 dice is for the actual puzzle, whereas the example has 3 dice. Please correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Posts: 315 ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2011-03-10 2:02 AM Sorry, that seems to be a typo. I'll have it fixed. |
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Posts: 315 ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2011-03-10 2:07 AM We've release the Myopia genre on puzzlepicnic. I had come across this genre once on a slitherlink site, hadn't been aware of this puzzletype before. (If anyone has, sorry for the name mix-up). There's an extra rule in the puzzlepicnic rules. There won't be any of the white arrows/lines in the competition puzzles. http://puzzlepicnic.com/genre?myopia (there's a link to all puzzles at the bottom). |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2011-03-10 1:31 PM Thanks for the link Bram. Myopia is probably not as common as most other variants that you've. The 2 puzzles by you at puzzlepicnic should serve as good practice. |
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Posts: 103 ![]() Country : Serbia | Nikola posted @ 2011-03-10 1:44 PM I have some doubts about this test and I would like to remove it: D3/4. Sea Battle You say: '...so that in every row, column and boldly marked area exactly 2 ships appear.' I think it is impossible if you have at least one 3-cell ship. I would like to make everything clear here. E3/4. Pentopia If we looking in the T-line in the example, the closest penta is placed diagonally. So, I assume that there will be no diagonal lines in the grid. Am I right? X1. Dice and X3/4. Alphanumeric Dice It might be useful here to show an example with the solving steps. I hope this will be a nice test, especially I like sudoku variations. Thanks! Nikola Edited by Nikola 2011-03-10 1:50 PM |
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Posts: 103 ![]() Country : Serbia | Nikola posted @ 2011-03-10 3:31 PM In the meantime I figured out the rules for D3/4. Sea Battle puzzle. Nikola |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2011-03-10 3:32 PM Nikola - 2011-03-10 3:31 PM In the meantime I figured out the rules for D3/4. Sea Battle puzzle. Nikola Ok. Regarding "E3/4. Pentopia", there won't be any diagonal lines. |
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Posts: 315 ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2011-03-10 11:12 PM Just in case anyone else has the same questions. D3/4. Sea Battle You say: '...so that in every row, column and boldly marked area exactly 2 ships appear.' I think it is impossible if you have at least one 3-cell ship. I would like to make everything clear here. It's 2 ships per row/column and boldly marked areas, not ship parts. So a size 2, 3 or 4 ship in a row/column counts as one. E3/4. Pentopia If we looking in the T-line in the example, the closest penta is placed diagonally. So, I assume that there will be no diagonal lines in the grid. Am I right? It's only in horizontal and vertical directions. The same goes for myopia. X1. Dice and X3/4. Alphanumeric Dice It might be useful here to show an example with the solving steps. Well I can give you an opening step and you figure out the rest. It might help you get an idea of the solving techniques involved. DICE example: From BED - AND - PEA you can determine this. D must be on the same die as one of PEA, but can't go with either A or E, so it must go with P. You can now also figure out how to distribute the letters ABEN with these words. Alphanumeric Dice Example: |NOD 5-YES 6-CAR 7| are 9 different letters that add to 18, so they all have to be either accompanied by a 1,2 or 3 on their side/face as this is the minimum you can have. When you now combine ABC and Dice techniques, you should get to the solution. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2011-03-11 10:57 PM Puzzle booklet uploaded. It has 13 pages including the cover page (with points table) |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2011-03-12 6:42 AM You can view your score after completing the test. If you didn't get points for any puzzle because you entered in wrong format, please post a reply here OR send a PM to Bram OR to me Please don't post full / part of solution. Just the puzzle name. |
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![]() Country : United States | MellowMelon posted @ 2011-03-12 9:12 AM Thanks for a fun test. One of the first competitions I've avoided making a mistake on. I figured I was going to have a hard time given how much trouble the examples gave me, but I was happy to exceed my own expectations at least. Still probably not incredibly well given how much time was spent staring at Sudoku, which is generally not a good use of time for me. |
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Posts: 30 ![]() Country : Canada | figonometry posted @ 2011-03-12 9:46 AM Another awesome test, another idiotic mistake for me. (I assumed the entry rules for all the dice puzzles were the same, and alphabetized them all.)Thanks to Bram and everyone. |
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Posts: 774 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-03-12 11:21 AM Excellent puzzles...I liked both the sea battles the most. Thanks Bram. And, probably inspired by Akash, I wasted close to half an hour in the end. |
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Posts: 13 Country : Poland | mucha posted @ 2011-03-12 8:52 PM Very nice puzzles, well done Bram. I particularly loved the Pentopia puzzles, hope to see more of them in the future Marcin |