Standard Variations - 22th-24th Aug - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier
@ 2015-08-15 6:42 AM (#19048) (#19048) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-08-15 6:42 AM





Link for rules and other details about Sudoku Mahabharat : http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/2015-16.asp
Instructions for Standard Variations - http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201508/

@ 2015-08-16 4:58 PM (#19053 - in reply to #19048) (#19053) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-08-16 4:58 PM

Instructions Booklet published.

Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201508/
@ 2015-08-16 8:54 PM (#19054 - in reply to #19048) (#19054) Top

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sanket.saxena posted @ 2015-08-16 8:54 PM

Nice set of puzzles but not clear with pencil marks Sudoku.
Can someone please explain?
@ 2015-08-16 9:33 PM (#19055 - in reply to #19054) (#19055) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2015-08-16 9:33 PM

sanket.saxena - 2015-08-16 8:54 PM

Nice set of puzzles but not clear with pencil marks Sudoku.
Can someone please explain?


The pencil marks given inside each cell list the ONLY possible candidates that can appear in the cell.So for instance, if you have 5678 as pencil marks inside a cell,it means it can contain only either 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 and not any of 1,2,3,4 and 9 .......
@ 2015-08-17 11:28 PM (#19067 - in reply to #19048) (#19067) Top

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prabhadoshi posted @ 2015-08-17 11:28 PM

not able to connect
@ 2015-08-20 10:23 AM (#19093 - in reply to #19048) (#19093) Top

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sharmaji posted @ 2015-08-20 10:23 AM

Where we can find more example of Pencil Marks Sudoku.
@ 2015-08-20 2:11 PM (#19099 - in reply to #19093) (#19099) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2015-08-20 2:11 PM

sharmaji - 2015-08-20 10:23 AM

Where we can find more example of Pencil Marks Sudoku.


There aren't many examples of this to the best of my knowledge.Here's one that should serve as good practice.But be reminded that it's hard.

http://www.slovaksudoku.com/en/blog/2014/3/pencilmark-sudoku.html
@ 2015-08-20 2:43 PM (#19101 - in reply to #19048) (#19101) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-08-20 2:43 PM

Try registering on http://argio-logic.net/ , there is one Pencil Marks Sudoku there every day (sometimes on the harder side).

Also, Shapes Sudoku and True or Lie Sudoku from this year's Indian Sudoku Championship have very similar deductions to the ones required in a pencil marks Sudoku. Link for ISC - http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=ISC2015
@ 2015-08-21 1:01 PM (#19109 - in reply to #19048) (#19109) Top

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witty posted @ 2015-08-21 1:01 PM

Is there any link on LMI with details on how to use the online interface?
@ 2015-08-21 1:23 PM (#19110 - in reply to #19109) (#19110) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-08-21 1:23 PM

witty - 2015-08-21 1:01 PM

Is there any link on LMI with details on how to use the online interface?

Here - http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?pid=6349

The best way to get used to, however, is to solve the examples already given in the flash interface.

I will also note that in Pencil Marks Sudoku
a. there will not be way to erase the already given pencil marks
b. unlike the pdf, the pencil marks will be given at the top left corner (like Killer Sudoku). See example on flash interface.





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@ 2015-08-21 3:41 PM (#19111 - in reply to #19048) (#19111) Top

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lrani posted @ 2015-08-21 3:41 PM

When will the exact timing if the test be published.
@ 2015-08-21 3:43 PM (#19113 - in reply to #19111) (#19113) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-08-21 3:43 PM

lrani - 2015-08-21 3:41 PM

When will the exact timing if the test be published.
The exact timings are already available in the submission page. It starts 11:30PM tonight (IST).





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@ 2015-08-22 3:18 AM (#19121 - in reply to #19048) (#19121) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-08-22 3:18 AM

@ 2015-08-22 4:07 AM (#19123 - in reply to #19048) (#19123) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2015-08-22 4:07 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-22 5:16 AM (#19124 - in reply to #19048) (#19124) Top

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achan1058 posted @ 2015-08-22 5:16 AM

Huh, first time I failed to do all the questions in a Mahabharat.
@ 2015-08-22 8:44 AM (#19125 - in reply to #19048) (#19125) Top

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asudoku posted @ 2015-08-22 8:44 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-22 10:58 AM (#19126 - in reply to #19048) (#19126) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-08-22 10:58 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-22 1:09 PM (#19127 - in reply to #19048) (#19127) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2015-08-22 1:09 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


Thanks for a wonderful set ! Needless to mention,the sudokus were absolutely delightful and tailor made for the test.My favourites were untouch (12),Diagonal and Palindrome in that order.Great Construction Deb.Good work!
@ 2015-08-22 2:18 PM (#19128 - in reply to #19048) (#19128) Top

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MrLiang posted @ 2015-08-22 2:18 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-22 3:11 PM (#19129 - in reply to #19048) (#19129) Top

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distri posted @ 2015-08-22 3:11 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-22 4:37 PM (#19130 - in reply to #19048) (#19130) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-08-22 4:37 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-22 8:00 PM (#19132 - in reply to #19048) (#19132) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-08-22 8:00 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Too many


@ 2015-08-22 9:55 PM (#19133 - in reply to #19048) (#19133) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-08-22 9:55 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-23 1:05 PM (#19136 - in reply to #19048) (#19136) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-08-23 1:05 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-23 2:38 PM (#19138 - in reply to #19048) (#19138) Top

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wgryciuk posted @ 2015-08-23 2:38 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-23 5:35 PM (#19139 - in reply to #19048) (#19139) Top

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Kwaka posted @ 2015-08-23 5:35 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-23 6:42 PM (#19140 - in reply to #19048) (#19140) Top

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gaurav.kjain posted @ 2015-08-23 6:42 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


Nice set of puzzles and amazing construction, thanks Deb.
My test went smoothly, at the end some logistics problem, which costed me some bonus points, overall satisfied :).
@ 2015-08-23 7:07 PM (#19141 - in reply to #19048) (#19141) Top

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TiiT posted @ 2015-08-23 7:07 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Too many


@ 2015-08-24 12:15 AM (#19142 - in reply to #19048) (#19142) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-08-24 12:15 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-24 1:09 AM (#19143 - in reply to #19048) (#19143) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-08-24 1:09 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-24 7:59 AM (#19145 - in reply to #19048) (#19145) Top

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peluri posted @ 2015-08-24 7:59 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-24 2:51 PM (#19148 - in reply to #19048) (#19148) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-08-24 2:51 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-24 4:37 PM (#19149 - in reply to #19048) (#19149) Top

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margareta456 posted @ 2015-08-24 4:37 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-24 7:17 PM (#19150 - in reply to #19048) (#19150) Top

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Swagatam posted @ 2015-08-24 7:17 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice


@ 2015-08-24 8:02 PM (#19151 - in reply to #19048) (#19151) Top

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Hariss posted @ 2015-08-24 8:02 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-24 8:44 PM (#19152 - in reply to #19048) (#19152) Top

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amitsowani posted @ 2015-08-24 8:44 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-24 11:12 PM (#19153 - in reply to #19048) (#19153) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-08-24 11:12 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Too many


Nice puzzles. I liked the Diagonal (9x9), Pencilmarks (6x6) and Palindrome (6x6). The 9x9s could have been a little harder.
@ 2015-08-25 2:02 AM (#19154 - in reply to #19048) (#19154) Top

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B. Thananon posted @ 2015-08-25 2:02 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-25 5:27 AM (#19156 - in reply to #19048) (#19156) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-08-25 5:27 AM

Extended the contest by 6 hours based on a request from a player.
@ 2015-08-25 10:10 AM (#19157 - in reply to #19048) (#19157) Top

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bilgin posted @ 2015-08-25 10:10 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-25 10:44 AM (#19158 - in reply to #19048) (#19158) Top

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rvarun posted @ 2015-08-25 10:44 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


A great set of puzzles and amazing solving path for most of the puzzles. I personally liked the Untouch 9x9 and Palindrome 9x9 among the ones I solved.
@ 2015-08-25 12:07 PM (#19159 - in reply to #19048) (#19159) Top

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tamz29 posted @ 2015-08-25 12:07 PM

Thanks for the sudokus! Excellent puzzles as usual.

It seems I wasn't the only one stuck on the small Pencilmarks Sudoku.
There's a sad tendency for authors, who try to make difficult 6x6 sudokus, to include a lot of bifurcation.
I feel a 6x6 should be what it should be: a simple introduction for the big puzzle, not a guessing exercise.
@ 2015-08-25 12:24 PM (#19161 - in reply to #19048) (#19161) Top

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Richard posted @ 2015-08-25 12:24 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Too many


@ 2015-08-25 12:33 PM (#19162 - in reply to #19048) (#19162) Top

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devarajand posted @ 2015-08-25 12:33 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice


@ 2015-08-25 2:23 PM (#19164 - in reply to #19048) (#19164) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-08-25 2:23 PM

The first episode of the new season is now over. Congratulations to Rohan, Kishore and Prasanna for taking the top 3 spots, but I should mention that the timings of Rakesh, Saheer and Prakhar are extreme close as well.

Very little to choose between the top 6 international participants, congratulations to Kota for the top spot and Jan and Kwaka for joint-second. (I have been reminded again to fix the ranking problem when the scores are tied, will do that soon)

As many as 13 Indians completed the set, which is much higher than any SM episode (last year's math round had 6 finishers, so that is a distant second). That obviously translates to puzzles were (very) easy, which is not necessarily a bad way to start a new season.

Thank you everyone for participating, and hope to see you soon in the next episode by Prasanna/Aditi; and also in the first episode Puzzle Ramayan.

New players : If there is any specific Sudoku in which you got stuck, feel free to post here and we will guide you through.
@ 2015-08-25 2:33 PM (#19165 - in reply to #19048) (#19165) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-08-25 2:33 PM

Password removed from the booklet and solutions appended.


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@ 2015-08-25 7:55 PM (#19168 - in reply to #19048) (#19168) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-08-25 7:55 PM

Excellent set of puzzles.
Especially I loved variants part.
But I got lost in 4 of these puzzles: 1) Palindrome 6*6 2) Pencil Marks 6*6, 9*9 3) Diagonal .
But fortunate enough to just make it in time though.
Looking forward to next round. :)
@ 2015-08-25 8:07 PM (#19169 - in reply to #19048) (#19169) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-08-25 8:07 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Too many


@ 2015-08-25 10:01 PM (#19171 - in reply to #19048) (#19171) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-08-25 10:01 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What do you think about including as many smaller grids? Just right


@ 2015-08-26 6:06 PM (#19184 - in reply to #19048) (#19184) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-08-26 6:06 PM

I completely missed to thank Rishi and Brako who test solved the Sudokus. Rishi had an amazing time (38 minutes), which is not surprising, given his current performance at Sudoku GP.
@ 2015-08-27 10:14 AM (#19187 - in reply to #19048) (#19187) Top

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PuzzleScott posted @ 2015-08-27 10:14 AM

The feedback page hangs for me. Maybe a Flash problem? (I use Chrome)
Nice test. My preference would be for fewer small grids.
@ 2015-08-28 11:58 AM (#19193 - in reply to #19048) (#19193) Top

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arav posted @ 2015-08-28 11:58 AM

Hi I have just registered myself. I think the first monthly test is over. Is it possible to join in the subsequent monthly online tests
@ 2015-08-28 12:33 PM (#19194 - in reply to #19193) (#19194) Top

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rvarun posted @ 2015-08-28 12:33 PM

arav - 2015-08-28 11:58 AM

Hi I have just registered myself. I think the first monthly test is over. Is it possible to join in the subsequent monthly online tests


Hi Arav. Welcome to LMI. Yes of course. You can definitely participate in the remaining rounds of Sudoku Mahabharath. The best six scores will be considered for qualification for the finals. So you can still discard one of your remaining seven scores if you participate in all seven rounds.

You can also check out one other event Puzzle Ramayana. The first round is scheduled over Sep 5 to 7. The Instruction booklet will be released subsequently. Please check the below link for more details.

http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2015-16pr.asp
@ 2015-09-07 10:03 PM (#19256 - in reply to #19048) (#19256) Top

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Fred76 posted @ 2015-09-07 10:03 PM

Funnliy, I made the exact same score in the SM standard variations 2014 and 2015: 143.867 pts !
@ 2015-09-08 4:44 AM (#19258 - in reply to #19256) (#19258) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-09-08 4:44 AM

Fred76 - 2015-09-07 10:03 PM

Funnliy, I made the exact same score in the SM standard variations 2014 and 2015: 143.867 pts !
Wow, that is some consistency.