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Country : India | Vote for the Tapa variations that you would want to see in TVC XVWe are preparing TVC XV puzzles considering result of the poll. Most voted 6 variations will be directly placed in TVC XV. You can choose upto 5 variations.
- Scroll up in this thread to see variations that you can vote for.
- The list of all variations can be found here.
- Please vote for only 5 types (although the poll system will allow you to vote for more).
- You can view the poll results summary only after you have voted.
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kiwijam
Posts: 187
Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2013-08-27 2:44 AM Does the Double Tapa (#29) example have two solutions? (R2C5 can be white or grey)
Edited by kiwijam 2013-08-27 2:44 AM
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Country : India | Please note that voting ends on Friday (i.e. before TVC XIV starts). So little less than 4 days as I post this. |
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Country : India | Voting is closed now.
[Although the forum will allow you to vote, you will notice that your options are not being stored, but you will not see any warnings.] |
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Country : India | Instructions Booklet is now availableInstructions booklet for TVC XV is now available. Please check the submission page.
Also, do not forget to vote for Tapa types in TVC XVI.
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Para's Puzzle Site
| Para's Puzzle Site posted @ 2013-09-09 11:02 PM |
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Country : India | Practice puzzles from Bram - Part 1 |
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devarajand
Posts: 114
Country : India | In total false Tapa pl clarify the follwing.
1. If a single digit be divided in to two. Can the sum of the two digits equal to the given number.
Edited by devarajand 2013-09-12 2:07 PM
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amitsowani
Posts: 349
Country : India | devarajand - 2013-09-12 1:45 PM
In total false Tapa pl clarify the follwing.
1. If a single digit be divided in to two. Can the sum of the two digits equal to the given number.
Yes, the rules allow for that.
In one of the examples created by Bram you can see a 2 clue in the corner which has to become a 1-1 clue in the final solution.
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Valezius
Posts: 66
Country : Hungary | devarajand - 2013-09-12 1:45 PM
In total false Tapa pl clarify the follwing.
1. If a single digit be divided in to two. Can the sum of the two digits equal to the given number.
Yes. If the false clue is '3'.
The real clue can be: 11 / 12 / 14 / 15 / 22 / 24 / 111 / 112 / 122 / 1111
Two cases ( 12 / 111 ) the sum is 3 which is possible. |
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Administrator
Country : India | Administrator - 2013-09-11 11:32 PM
Practice puzzles from Bram - Part 1 |
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Country : India | | | AnnouncementsPassword protected puzzle has 11 pages (including a cover page with points table)
Time bonus will be computed after you click 'Claim Bonus'
Penalty will be given irrespective of correctness of submission
Contest Length : 75 minutes
Total Points : 1000
Bonus : 5 points per minute saved (Computed upto seconds)
Grace Period : 5 minutes
Penalty : 11 points per minute used (Computed upto seconds)
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chaotic_iak
Posts: 241
Country : Indonesia | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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devarajand
Posts: 114
Country : India | In Compass TAPA is it a must to have a white cell below the arrow mark. |
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Grizix
Posts: 30
Country : France | Grizix posted @ 2013-09-14 9:57 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Average | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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devarajand
Posts: 114
Country : India | In Compass TAPA is it a must to have a white cell below the arrow mark. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | devarajand - 2013-09-14 10:13 PM
In Compass TAPA is it a must to have a white cell below the arrow mark.
I assume you're mentioning this for arrows pointing upward. If so, then no. You could have a shaded cell below the arrow mark that could be a dead-end right? The rule is only that, that cell can reach the star only in the direction of the arrow. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | Problems with the printer at the start, and one of the papers tearing on the way out isn't a good way to start off. Thankfully just lost about 2-3 minutes in this. The frustrations went away soon.
Its a good thing the Hexa Tapa was easy, if it was big plus hard, that'd be too much for a time-solving environment I think. As it is, it fitted in well and I really liked it. A big compass Tapa is scary. Really scary. Quite a relief when I saw that was right. The Double Back bottom was probably my favorite, just a few little double back deductions needed before the Tapa takes over, with a nice theme. The top one with the 3-3s affecting the ring around the middle was cool too. I usually am horrible at No Islands, but thankfully it went smoothly here.
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Para
Posts: 315
Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2013-09-15 2:02 PM prasanna16391 - 2013-09-15 1:58 AM
I usually am horrible at No Islands, but thankfully it went smoothly here.
How can you be "usually horrible" at a new variant? |
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ukonet
Posts: 9
Country : Turkey | ukonet posted @ 2013-09-15 2:44 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too few puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | Para - 2013-09-15 2:02 PM
prasanna16391 - 2013-09-15 1:58 AM
I usually am horrible at No Islands, but thankfully it went smoothly here.
How can you be "usually horrible" at a new variant?
Well I took an hour on the example in the IB and about 25 minutes on your practice puzzle  |
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kiwijam
Posts: 187
Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2013-09-15 4:43 PM In Twopa there are two solutions but either solution could be 10a or 10b. Does this mean that when submitting answers there are two correct options for entering 10a and 10b? |
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yureklis
Posts: 183
Country : Turkey | kiwijam - 2013-09-15 4:43 PM
In Twopa there are two solutions but either solution could be 10a or 10b. Does this mean that when submitting answers there are two correct options for entering 10a and 10b?
Yes, it works exactly as you mention |
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Para
Posts: 315
Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2013-09-15 7:41 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | All puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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chaotic_iak
Posts: 241
Country : Indonesia | I'm curious whether Deb/Serkan has guarded against submissions like "1,2,3 / 1,2,3" for Twopa (basically the same answer for both grids)... ;) |
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debmohanty
Country : India | chaotic_iak - 2013-09-15 8:15 PM
I'm curious whether Deb/Serkan has guarded against submissions like "1,2,3 / 1,2,3" for Twopa (basically the same answer for both grids)... ;) The score page does not handle such cases. But the admin's page has a warning about such cases, and we will be deleting one of the answers, if someone makes that mistake (? ). |
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skywalker
Posts: 42
Country : Serbia | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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karzym
Posts: 5
Country : Poland | karzym posted @ 2013-09-16 2:34 AM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
Nice idea in Outside tapa (even if I haven't solved it in time ;_; ). |
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bskbri
Posts: 34
Country : Turkey | bskbri posted @ 2013-09-16 4:42 AM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | All puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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RALehrer
Posts: 31
Country : United States | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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xevs
Posts: 43
Country : Japan | xevs posted @ 2013-09-16 7:53 AM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | All puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Rubben
Posts: 20
Country : Romania | Rubben posted @ 2013-09-16 2:33 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | All puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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flk
Posts: 23
Country : Australia | flk posted @ 2013-09-16 6:53 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
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tamz29
Posts: 225
Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2013-09-16 11:00 PM For people who don't always finish the test, do you tackle the giant puzzles first?
I usually avoid them entirely since its too much of a risk.
When you're almost finishing just to find out you went wrong somewhere - think of all that time spent on the one giant puzzle.
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | tamz29 - 2013-09-16 11:00 PM
For people who don't always finish the test, do you tackle the giant puzzles first?
I usually avoid them entirely since its too much of a risk.
When you're almost finishing just to find out you went wrong somewhere - think of all that time spent on the one giant puzzle.
Ouch.
Since I've just recently finished TVC (s ), I feel I'm still within the category who can answer this. The truth is I was never sure what to do with them. In the end I just settled on attempting the big puzzles first. In general, try to keep the easier ones for later so you can do a quick ending.
But more than that, its that I do a bigger one a little slower and more carefully. I took fairly long on the Hexa Tapa here for example, but I was fairly certain I was on the right track throughout. Thats why I'm fine with big ones as long as they're easy, for the competition format. The worst thing is solving for a while and then getting stuck somewhere midway and not knowing whether to guess and take a huge risk or just stay the course. |
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kiwijam
Posts: 187
Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2013-09-17 2:36 AM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | A bit hard | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | All puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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kiwijam
Posts: 187
Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2013-09-17 3:20 AM @Tawan, you can think about this question before the contest starts, once you know the points value for each puzzle.
After doing a little practise, you should know which puzzle types you like and which you don't like.
Basically, that's how I decide. I always do giant puzzles if I like the type, and never if I don't like them.
If you don't have an opinion, then the other option is to wait until you are halfway through the test.
If you are going fast, then try the big one (otherwise you might end up with time remaining at the end but nothing small to do.
If you're going slowly, then stay with the small puzzles.
And I always leave the smallest puzzle until last, to fill the last gap if there is one.
Serkan's large puzzles aren't too tough, they just look big. Once you have some confidence they'll be easier to start.
But if you want a safety net: screenshot the puzzle, solve it in Paint instead of paper, keep copies of the solution as it progresses...
Edited by kiwijam 2013-09-17 3:21 AM
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kiwijam
Posts: 187
Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2013-09-17 3:27 AM @Bram: Well done on your result. Thanks for the practice puzzles, and good call with the Hexa Tapa: "I somewhat expect Serkan to go big and do something nice with it." |
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motris
Posts: 199
Country : United States | motris posted @ 2013-09-17 5:05 AM Another gorgeous test. Thanks Serkan. I thought I was taking too long to check my answers (both on paper, and then entering into the online system) but I can't complain too much with my result. |
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Tablesaw
Posts: 12
Country : United States | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
This was my favorite of all of the TVC tests I've participated in. Just a wonderful mix all around. |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2013-09-17 9:51 AM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | All puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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SilBer
Posts: 8
Country : Germany | SilBer posted @ 2013-09-17 10:43 PM I have all puzzles wrong, is that correct? I don't see where my faults are and wonder if I misunderstood the solution codes systematically. Is it possible to give me a feedback about that? My nichname is SilBer. Thank you, Silke |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | SilBer - 2013-09-17 10:43 PM
I have all puzzles wrong, is that correct? I don't see where my faults are and wonder if I misunderstood the solution codes systematically. Is it possible to give me a feedback about that? My nichname is SilBer. Thank you, Silke
See the Instruction booklet and then the answer key codes for each puzzle given on the results page. My guess is, you have entered the sum of all shaded cells in each of the marked rows/columns whereas the key asked is the length of each shaded block in the marked rows/columns. As a result, the key you would enter by your interpretation for the Instruction Booklet example would be 3,4,2, but it is the length of each shaded block in order for each marked row/column. |
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SilBer
Posts: 8
Country : Germany | SilBer posted @ 2013-09-18 12:44 AM Yes, you are right. Oh no. Thank you.
Is it possible to get some lower points for that (like in the HCS, where it would be 80 percent, I think), or do you have other rules about that? |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | SilBer - 2013-09-18 12:44 AM
Yes, you are right. Oh no. Thank you.
Is it possible to get some lower points for that (like in the HCS, where it would be 80 percent, I think), or do you have other rules about that?
That is upto the author to decide, if the keys you provided still give enough information of whether you have solved the puzzles or not. In this case the author is Serkan so he can answer that best. |
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tamz29
Posts: 225
Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2013-09-18 1:28 AM kiwijam - 2013-09-17 3:20 AM
@Tawan, you can think about this question before the contest starts, once you know the points value for each puzzle.
After doing a little practise, you should know which puzzle types you like and which you don't like.
Basically, that's how I decide. I always do giant puzzles if I like the type, and never if I don't like them.
If you don't have an opinion, then the other option is to wait until you are halfway through the test.
If you are going fast, then try the big one (otherwise you might end up with time remaining at the end but nothing small to do.
If you're going slowly, then stay with the small puzzles.
And I always leave the smallest puzzle until last, to fill the last gap if there is one.
Serkan's large puzzles aren't too tough, they just look big. Once you have some confidence they'll be easier to start.
But if you want a safety net: screenshot the puzzle, solve it in Paint instead of paper, keep copies of the solution as it progresses...
You're right. They're a breeze once the competition environment was over. |
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devarajand
Posts: 114
Country : India | I use Image printer and solve the puzzles in Paint. But TVC's all the puzzle lines are to be redrawn, else else while filling a group of grids gets filled. The author can take a note of it. |
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debmohanty
Country : India | devarajand - 2013-09-18 5:26 AM
I use Image printer and solve the puzzles in Paint. But TVC's all the puzzle lines are to be redrawn, else else while filling a group of grids gets filled. The author can take a note of it. I am not sure what an Image printer is. But I have solved most of the puzzles from this TVC (and earlier ones ) on Image Editor and they worked fine.
Is there a specific puzzle you had problems with? |
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devarajand
Posts: 114
Country : India | Image editor converts a give file to required format online. I think it is not a downloadable software. Whereas Image printer can be downloaded and saved. It prints the given PDF files in to editable formats. Image printer 2.1. version if free. But all TVC puzzles had problems . I had no problems with other images from other competitions, download images from other puzzle makers.
Edited by devarajand 2013-09-18 6:25 AM
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chaotic_iak
Posts: 241
Country : Indonesia | Every time I solve, I always solve with Paint by copying a screenshot of the puzzle and pasting it to Paint. I always get full lines. Try using that method instead? |
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debmohanty
Country : India | devarajand - 2013-09-18 6:25 AM
Image editor converts a give file to required format online. I think it is not a downloadable software. Whereas Image printer can be downloaded and saved. It prints the given PDF files in to editable formats. Image printer 2.1. version if free. But all TVC puzzles had problems . I had no problems with other images from other competitions, download images from other puzzle makers. I second chaotic_iak's method above. In fact, most players (that I know ) who solve on Paint (or similar software ) prefer this method. Please try the same. |
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devarajand
Posts: 114
Country : India | But PDF files cannot be copied? |
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chaotic_iak
Posts: 241
Country : Indonesia | See that button labelled PrtScr or something similar on your keyboard? Press it while you see the puzzle on your screen. Then go to MS Paint or some other image editor on your computer and paste (Ctrl+V). There you go.
This has nothing to do with "copying" PDF files, which you can also do just like you copy other kinds of files. |
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devarajand
Posts: 114
Country : India | I got it. Thank You. |
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devarajand
Posts: 114
Country : India | I am sorry as you can paste the files but it cannot be edited. Only open option is use Image printer or Editor. Image printer is fast but unless the lines are drawn as continuous one you have to redraw the lines. I have not tried Image editor. If the puzzle authors take note of this I hope more people who do not have printing facilities will also participate. |
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lenson
Posts: 57
Country : India | lenson posted @ 2013-09-18 7:31 PM You are doing it wrong. There is no copying needed. There are instructions here on how to take a screenshot on different kinds of devices/OSs.
http://www.take-a-screenshot.org |
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devarajand
Posts: 114
Country : India | Taking a screenshot and pasting it to paint are not the issues. How to edit the image. |
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lenson
Posts: 57
Country : India | lenson posted @ 2013-09-19 1:11 AM Pick Colour/Fill with Colour on Paint are not working for you? |
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devarajand
Posts: 114
Country : India | Now I got it cleared. Thanks to all. |
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Muhammad
Posts: 3
Country : Pakistan | chaotic_iak - 2013-09-18 8:11 AM
Every time I solve, I always solve with Paint by copying a screenshot of the puzzle and pasting it to Paint. I always get full lines. Try using that method instead?
try to take a screenshot I hope this will help you https://www.take-screenshot.com/ |
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Muhammad
Posts: 3
Country : Pakistan | chaotic_iak - 2013-09-18 8:11 AM
Every time I solve, I always solve with Paint by copying a screenshot of the puzzle and pasting it to Paint. I always get full lines. Try using that method instead? try to take a screenshot then it will work |
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