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Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
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debmohanty
Subject: RE: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-02 8:37 AM (#21173 - in reply to #21076) (#21173) Top



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lenson
Subject: Re: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-02 12:20 PM (#21177 - in reply to #21076) (#21177) Top





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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Maxi Loop
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thanks, this was fun. Made it totally worth waking up at an un-godly 3AM time to participate.
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Subject: Re: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-02 12:26 PM (#21178 - in reply to #21177) (#21178) Top


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lenson - 2016-03-02 12:20 PM

Thanks, this was fun. Made it totally worth waking up at an un-godly 3AM time to participate.
Well, we had extended based on your request.
lenson
Subject: Re: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-02 12:52 PM (#21179 - in reply to #21178) (#21179) Top





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Administrator - 2016-03-02 12:26 PM
lenson - 2016-03-02 12:20 PMThanks, this was fun. Made it totally worth waking up at an un-godly 3AM time to participate.
Well, we had extended based on your request.



Thanks for that. But I am not complaining. ;-)
It was totally my fault that I didn't notice the extension until I logged in early to participate.
Bram28
Subject: Re: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-02 11:09 PM (#21181 - in reply to #21076) (#21181) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linesweeper
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Loops are not normally my thing, but these were very nice, thanks!! Some nice deductions, and I was very happy to be able finish within the time limit, which always feels good. Interestingly, I broke only 2 puzzles, and 1 of them was Simple Loop 1! :)
affpuzz
Subject: Re: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-03 6:21 AM (#21182 - in reply to #21167) (#21182) Top




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debmohanty - 2016-03-01 6:59 AM

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I didn't much care for the formatting of the Maxi-Loop; I think the half-bolded dividers were very confusing. Would either have looked for a different formatting, or an example with that formatting in the instruction book.
Please help us to understand more, as far as I can see the formatting is same in IB and PB.


I think that was something weird in my drivers/printers/something downstream. I saw that the printout looked weird (I'll attempt to attach a picture of how it printed out), and didn't check to see how the .PDF looked. I guess it was a technical issue here, that did make it much more difficult to solve the maxi-loop (can I use that as an excuse for not finishing that one puzzle?)

affpuzz
Subject: Re: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-03 6:30 AM (#21183 - in reply to #21167) (#21183) Top




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debmohanty - 2016-03-01 6:59 AM

An LMI player - 2016-02-29 4:01 AM

I didn't much care for the formatting of the Maxi-Loop; I think the half-bolded dividers were very confusing. Would either have looked for a different formatting, or an example with that formatting in the instruction book.
Please help us to understand more, as far as I can see the formatting is same in IB and PB.


I think that was something weird in my drivers/printers/something downstream. I saw that the printout looked weird (see below), and didn't check to see how the .PDF looked. I guess it was a technical issue here, that did make it much more difficult to solve the maxi-loop (can I use that as an excuse for not finishing that one puzzle?)

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Subject: Re: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-03 6:37 AM (#21184 - in reply to #21183) (#21184) Top


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affpuzz - 2016-03-03 6:30 AM

debmohanty - 2016-03-01 6:59 AM

An LMI player - 2016-02-29 4:01 AM

I didn't much care for the formatting of the Maxi-Loop; I think the half-bolded dividers were very confusing. Would either have looked for a different formatting, or an example with that formatting in the instruction book.
Please help us to understand more, as far as I can see the formatting is same in IB and PB.


I think that was something weird in my drivers/printers/something downstream. I saw that the printout looked weird (see below), and didn't check to see how the .PDF looked. I guess it was a technical issue here, that did make it much more difficult to solve the maxi-loop (can I use that as an excuse for not finishing that one puzzle?)

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The above kind of errors come when you print directly from browser. Can I ask you to save the file on your computer and then open/print using acrobat reader? I'm pretty certain the error will go away. We discussed about the in this post.


[ Warning while you download pdf]

If that still does not solve the problem, please let us know.


affpuzz
Subject: Re: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-03 7:33 AM (#21185 - in reply to #21184) (#21185) Top




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Shoot, I remembered seeing that and testing it on my last LMI test, which was probably two years ago, and forgot that I have a different computer now. It worked fine, sorry about the false comment.

prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-03 8:19 PM (#21189 - in reply to #21076) (#21189) Top


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Thank you everyone for participating in the Puzzle Ramayan - Loops round. This was a round where I was generally pleased with how the puzzles turned out so I'm glad to see that the general feedback has been positive both in terms of puzzle quality and in terms of difficulty distribution. The puzzles were definitely on the easy side, but I think that's expected going into it for a contest geared towards encouraging newcomers and beginners. Plus, as an author I always consider it a welcome challenge to put in nice themes and fun solves into easy puzzles :)

We tried something new in this round with the Instruction booklet. Firstly, I'd just like to be honest and say this takes some significant effort, and continuing it in other rounds really depends on the motivation to do so. The sole motivation to do this is so that more people participate, solve and enjoy more puzzles. I'm not sure if this happened in this round enough to push other authors to continue with this scheme. There were 34 Indian participants with 28 non-zero scores. This isn't a significant increase from the previous round, and is less than most of the earlier rounds. We want to encourage more than just solving in the contest. The ideal 'participation' is to also discuss puzzles and solving techniques in the forum. How many did the new IB scheme actually help, and to those people, would it be enough if we just wrote a few lines in the forum for approaching each puzzle instead of going through detailed steps? These are things we need to consider if we're to decide its worth it, and it would really help if some Indian solvers let us know their thoughts on the matter.

Anyway, moving to the results, congrats to EKBM for winning the round, and finishing the set in a stunning 23 minutes and 48 seconds. He really is on a roll this year. Congrats to deu and nyuta who finished at 2nd and 3rd respectively and completed an all-Japan podium (the fact that that isn't so surprising says a lot about the depth of quality in Japan). Congrats to Para for getting the Rest-of-the-World first place ;) Among Indians, I was personally pleased to see 6 finishers. Congrats to Rohan, Swaroop, Amit, Ashish, Rajesh and Rakesh. Swaroop and Ashish especially were impressive in this round, I think. The Indian standings are shaping up nicely as far as the top 10 solvers go.

I hope everyone enjoyed participating, thank you once again!
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-05 6:35 AM (#21199 - in reply to #21189) (#21199) Top



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Attention Indian Solvers

prasanna16391 - 2016-03-03 8:19 PM

We tried something new in this round with the Instruction booklet. Firstly, I'd just like to be honest and say this takes some significant effort, and continuing it in other rounds really depends on the motivation to do so. The sole motivation to do this is so that more people participate, solve and enjoy more puzzles. I'm not sure if this happened in this round enough to push other authors to continue with this scheme. There were 34 Indian participants with 28 non-zero scores. This isn't a significant increase from the previous round, and is less than most of the earlier rounds. We want to encourage more than just solving in the contest. The ideal 'participation' is to also discuss puzzles and solving techniques in the forum. How many did the new IB scheme actually help, and to those people, would it be enough if we just wrote a few lines in the forum for approaching each puzzle instead of going through detailed steps? These are things we need to consider if we're to decide its worth it, and it would really help if some Indian solvers let us know their thoughts on the matter.

We need to know your feedback on this scheme.
shera90
Subject: Re: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-05 9:36 AM (#21200 - in reply to #21076) (#21200) Top





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Please continue with the new kind if UB
Swagatam
Subject: Re: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-05 10:51 AM (#21201 - in reply to #21076) (#21201) Top




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New Kind of IB with detailed steps helps to remove all basic confusions about the puzzles rather than discussing in the forum when the puzzle types are new to me.
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Loops - 27th - 29th Feb 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2016-03-08 3:03 PM (#21219 - in reply to #21201) (#21219) Top


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Swagatam - 2016-03-05 10:51 AM

New Kind of IB with detailed steps helps to remove all basic confusions about the puzzles rather than discussing in the forum when the puzzle types are new to me.


Thanks for the reply.

We want to encourage discussing puzzles in the forum. I've always valued the forum discussion as a powerful tool to know new things. If I put full walkthroughs in the IB, you know how I personally approach the puzzles, but if you ask in the forum you will get replies from a variety of different solvers. I found that particularly helpful when I was a beginner because I could take an approach which suited me best. There is some value to taking away the confusion at the start with the IB, but my point is, if that is at the level that you do not need to discuss in the forum, then its not necessarily a huge positive.
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