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Country : India | Logic Masters India announces May Puzzle Test — No Numbers
Author : Ko Okamoto (xevs)
Dates : 26 th - 28 th May
Length : 120 minutes
IB and Submission Link : here
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Para
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Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2012-05-19 6:24 AM Hi
I think I understand the rules after a bit of reading and trying. I just have two questions.
1) Synchronised Maze: Is a path from one letter allowed to go through a letter of the other? I'm not sure if that is seen as crossing or not.
2) Is there any chance the layout of the no numbers loop can be changed? I found it somewhat hard to see my own writing over the think dashes lines as they have hardly any white space.
Thanks
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debmohanty
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Country : India | Hi Bram, There are lot of new / unfamiliar types. Can we expect some practice puzzles from you? |
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swaroop2011
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Country : India | can someone explain the rules of "No numbers loop"... :)
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tamz29
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Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2012-05-19 12:28 PM I agree with Bram. Could the dashes on loop puzzles be thinner? Its really hard to see given fragments or your own notes.
Edited by tamz29 2012-05-19 12:29 PM
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xevs
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Country : Japan | xevs posted @ 2012-05-19 12:38 PM Hi Para,
1) No, It's not allowed. In that case, lines are not considered to be crossing.
2) In puzzle booklet, the grid has more white space and easier to see when solving on the paper.
so don't worry.
Xevs |
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Para
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Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2012-05-19 2:47 PM debmohanty - 2012-05-19 6:38 AM
Hi Bram, There are lot of new / unfamiliar types. Can we expect some practice puzzles from you?
Maybe, but I'm not really sure how that is going to work out. The Tapa was a bit easier as I at least knew how the Tapa bit worked and would see how the rest could work out. |
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swaroop2011
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Country : India | As all types are new to many, and i guess to everyone too. I thought understanding the rules will become better if i create one. So many of them still i too have to do it properly but succeeded in creating two puzzles of "TRIO CUT". Here is the link for the Practice puzzles. Hope you will like it. : )
http://swaroopg92.blogspot.in/2012/05/puzzles-66-67-trio-cut-practi... |
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csraveen
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Country : India | Will this be an online test???????????????can anyone plz explain the answer key for curve data in detail????????????? |
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prasanna16391
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xevs
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Country : Japan | xevs posted @ 2012-05-20 6:55 AM swaroop2011 - 2012-05-19 3:03 PM
can someone explain the rules of "No numbers loop"... :)
Maybe l can say only a few tips about the type other than written in IB.
1 ) there are so many possibilities of existence of numbers.
in the grid of example puzzle, there are 40 locations - 4*5 vertical pairss and 4*5 horizontal pairs.
2 ) and in all locations, so many orientation of numbers within the 7 segments around the pair of squares.
So, be careful :- ) |
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xevs
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Country : Japan | xevs posted @ 2012-05-20 7:16 AM csraveen - 2012-05-20 12:17 AM
Will this be an online test???????????????
Sorry, this test will not have online-solving applets.
can anyone plz explain the answer key for curve data in detail?????????????
the marked row (3rd from top ) of the example has 2 lines ALONG the direction.
The length of first one (upper part of "I" ) is 2,
and the length of second one (bottom part of "V" ) is 1,
Therefore the key for this row should be "21".
The marked column (4th from left ) has only 1 line ALONG the direction,
and the length of the line is 1.
Therefore the key for this column should be "1".
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csraveen
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Country : India | thnk u sir |
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tamz29
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Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2012-05-21 8:14 PM In Trio Cut, could trimonoes be adjacent? |
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xevs
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Country : Japan | xevs posted @ 2012-05-21 9:38 PM tamz29 - 2012-05-21 11:14 PM
In Trio Cut, could trimonoes be adjacent?
No, blakened cells can't form hexominos (or larger polyominoes ). |
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prasanna16391
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swaroop2011
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swaroop2011
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Country : India | One doubt in "NO numbers loop" can crossings share an segment .
like this. Edited by swaroop2011 2012-05-23 12:58 PM
 (nonumloop.png)Attachments ----------------  nonumloop.png (1KB - 4 downloads) |
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prasanna16391
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xevs
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Country : Japan | xevs posted @ 2012-05-23 7:31 PM swaroop2011 - 2012-05-23 3:50 PM
One doubt in "NO numbers loop" can crossings share an segment .
like this.
Yes, they can (unless it violates other rules ). |
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Administrator
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Country : India | Bonus System Here is the bonus formula
Final Points = (Points Accumulated) / (Claim Bonus Time) * 120
Bonus will be awarded to players submitting all puzzles(with maximum one wrong submission). The wrong submission can not be a dummy submission just to get time bonus. Organizers and authors will review the wrong submission and decide if bonus should be awarded.
We are in the process of having same bonus system for all future regular tests (e.g. except Marathon / Sprint / Screen tests). I hope top players find this system as fair. Otherwise, please let us know.
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Password protected pdf is uploaded. It has 8 pages, including a cover page with points table.
Japanese version of puzzle booklet is also available. (Password is same for both)
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motris
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Country : United States | motris posted @ 2012-05-29 1:53 AM Well, my long LMI puzzle "podium" streak was doomed to end eventually. 17 tests it is. This was rather hard, and 75 minutes would have been just about as good as 120 minutes for me. Still, there were some very nice designs in the puzzles I did solve so thanks for those xevs. |
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debmohanty
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Country : India | "No Numbers" is over. Undoubtedly one of the difficult tests, and the low participation was probably because of the unfamiliar puzzles.
So, Bram takes the first position (after 17 tries ) (he loves HARD puzzles, doesn't he? ), Endo Ken takes 2nd position, and Hideaki takes the 3rd position.
Ko has prepared a solutions booklets with small hints on how to solve the puzzles. Here is the link. (Click here for Japanese version ).
The usual suspects from India take the top Indian spots. Edited by debmohanty 2012-05-29 8:36 AM
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macherlakumar
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Country : India | Previously I had a thought that there should be a test with unfamiliar puzzles and this is it No Numbers came.
So far I have attempted Curve Data, Synchronized Maze and No Numbers field, they are really good. Curve data 2 is like what I have expected.
I liked the test but I should have done some practise puzzles before attempting (not a good idea to give an unprepared test at night 10:30 on Monday).
Anyway thanks a lot to LMI and Xevs. I will try to solve the other puzzles as well.
Regards,
Ravi |
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Para
Posts: 315
Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2012-05-29 10:45 AM Thanks Ko for writing this test. I generally do well with unfamiliar puzzle types. I had a similar experience as Thomas, where after 80 minutes I had solved for most my points, at which point I was feeling pretty good about my performance. I had left both No Numbers types till the end. Afterwards I was a bit disappointed, having only been able to add 85 points in 40 minutes. But it was enough in the end. Guess I can write off this victory on smoothly solving the second Synchronised Maze, which seems to have stumped a lot of people. |
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Nilz
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Country : United Kingdom | Nilz posted @ 2012-06-03 3:46 AM I really enjoyed this test, it's always nice to see types of puzzles that I've not seen before, so thanks Ko. Were they newly created puzzles by you, or had you seen them somewhere else before? Curve data and It's Yours were particularly interesting- does anyone know anywhere I can find some more of these types? In fact if anyone knows where I can find more examples of any of the types I'll gladly take a look.
Edited by Nilz 2012-06-03 3:48 AM
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Takeya
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Country : Japan | Takeya posted @ 2012-06-13 6:34 PM |
