Please change the dates of Round 2 in main page of PR as well to avoid any confusion.

IB is available now.

Inside the webpage http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201802/, both up-right corner and timing section, test dates seem as January.

Thanks, this is fixed now.

Points table

A lookback at similar PR contests earlier:

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Too many medium difficult puzzles
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Partiti
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Too many medium difficult puzzles
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Partiti
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

Interesting Set of Puzzles.
Each Puzzle had nice logic behind it , probably new techniques or I didn't know. I was too slow to discover.
Not a good round for me but nonetheless puzzle quality was great. Probably my discard round. Felt difficuitly was hard though , may be very hard in comparison to 1st round.
Yet to solve remaining.
Thanks Amit for wonderful set of puzzles. Thanks LMI.

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Just right
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Half Dominoes
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Mostly perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Just right
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Partiti
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

Next time the wording for the Battleships answer keys should be changed.
"Left to right and top to bottom" would mean entering the submarines' co-ordinates column by column.
Rather than the going from "top to bottom and left to right" - which is the case with the example.

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Just right
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Fairly Nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Ripple Effect
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Mostly perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Too many hard puzzles
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Battleships
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Mostly perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

I like the LMI theme, but the puzzle type selection was really weird and I didn't enjoyed solving Partiti (they were worth 29 points - almost one third of the whole contest).

What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Fairly Nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Statue Park
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Mostly perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth too much or too little
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	I have a different complaint

Prefer all pages have header even if it's the second page of a set of puzzles. If papers get out of order it's soemtimes hard to see which puzzles you're on.

(both puzzle #s and page #s were too small to be helpful)

Edited by An LMI player 2018-02-26 4:48 AM

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Too many medium difficult puzzles
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Partiti
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Mostly perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Just right
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Partiti
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Answer keys could have been better
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

These are some incredible puzzles. Some difficult ones, too. Partiti is a really tough genre, but that's probably just because it's very new; the logic was really nice. But not only that; all of them in general are very good puzzles. The only complaint is answer keys; for Battleships, I believe the usual answer key is "leftmost ship segment in each row", and I much prefer that than locating submarines. (Or if we need to locate submarines, at least give us the row numbers.) And for Partiti, I feel like putting the largest number only feels off (would probably be better "put all numbers in each cell from lowest to highest"). But minor complaints; the puzzles themselves are top-notch.

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Just right
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Half Dominoes
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Mostly perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

I was confused by the lack of row numbers for the Battleships answer key, had to redownload the instruction book to see what my error was.

But the puzzles were generally very well written, thank you Amit for a great contest.

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Just right
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Half Dominoes
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Just right
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Partiti Regions
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Mostly perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Too many pages / too large grids

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Too many medium difficult puzzles
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Ripple Effect
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Too many hard puzzles
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Statue Park
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Mostly perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

I did enjoy the puzzles, but I think that maybe too many puzzles needed the right insight and I used uniqueness maybe a bit too much to get through this whole set.

Also, is there like a non-japanese ranking in these things? ;)

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Too many medium difficult puzzles
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Battleships
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Mostly perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

Too hard for a PR round.

Puzzles were excellent... felt like a typical Amit Sowani set. Loved the Partiti Regions and Battleships, was hard to pick one as favourite.

The difficulty of puzzles would either motivate non-regular solvers to practice much more or drive them away

Quite tough a set. Though enjoyed solving Ripple Effect puzzles.

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Just right
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Statue Park
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Mostly perfect answer keys
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

Thank you!

Favorite Puzzles:

Ripple Effect 2
Partiti 3
Partiti Regions 2

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Too many hard puzzles
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Ripple Effect
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Answer keys could have been better
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth too much or too little
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

A very hard set.My score is more or less half of what I scored in the previous PR round.I couldn't enjoy the round becuase of the difficulty level and it was a total struggle getting to the point tally that I eventually did.It would have been better if the supposedly lower pointer puzzles(1,2 etc pointers ) were valued better and the number of puzzles to solve had been lesser to account for the increase in difficulty level.

Favourite is Ripple Effect(9 points).Thanks for the set Amit.

What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Just right
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Fairly Nice
Which set of puzzles did you like the most?	Hidden Statue
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Answer keys could have been better
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

Congratulations to Endo Ken, Yuki Kawabe, and Hideaki Jo for making it an all-Japan Top 3.

Amongst Indian participants, Congratulations to Prasanna Seshadri, Rohan Rao and Ashish Kumar for taking the top 3 places.

Of the 206 participants, 35 were from India, 28 from Japan and 23 from USA. Morey Garelick (USA) was the first to start the test while Esther Naef (Switzerland) was the last person to start the test. 9 participants completed the set within the allotted time. The median score of the test was 41.

Thanks Amit Sowani for the puzzles!

Participants may share feedback on the results page and rate the puzzles on the contest page.

Thanks for your feedback Matus. We are contemplating a polling mechanism for selection of puzzle types for each contest.

For this particular contest with Number and Object Placement as the theme I went with three each. In wanted number placement to be different from symbol placement so each puzzle used a different properties of numbers. Futoshiki has number comparisons, Ripple Effect uses numbers to indicate distance and Partiti has number arithmetic.

For object placement I went with puzzles which have a given set of objects which need to be placed. Most of these are classic types.

Partiti is a slow moving puzzle with local logic. I attempted to make the grids smaller and introduce symmetry to aid with solving.

Thanks for your feedback Ivan. We realized the error in Battleship formatting after the booklet had been published and the test had started. We will note this for future contests.

The answer key for Partiti was based on the need for fixed length answer keys for real time validation of answer keys.
Partiti usually solves bottom up, the smaller numbers get filled in earlier than the larger ones, hence we went with the answer key for the test.

I agree with your comment on uniqueness. It gets used quite a bit and especially in Partiti2 with the center 9 boxes missing, they have to be 1-9 to ensure uniqueness.

I hope it is the prior. Some of these puzzles required a bit of prior work in identifying strategies for solving these puzzles types.
Hope this encourages newcomers to discuss solving techniques for the new types once the IB is released for each round.

I would like to thank Tiit and Rakesh for testing the puzzles and providing valuable feedback, especially pointing out errors/non-uniqueness in 2-3 puzzles.
Their timings also aligned with my anticipation of puzzle difficulty and I was in general happy with the point distribution except for one instance where in hindsight I made the mistake of overruling their timing in Half Dominoes -3 where I expected that it would be one of the easier puzzles with all the column and row sums being given.

We were aware that the set is a lot tougher than the previous round, but the only option we had was to reduce the number of puzzles, which would mean departure from the set pattern for PR rounds. This is something we could consider in future years.

I wanted to introduce a different solving strategy in each puzzle type and succeeded for most puzzle types except Futoshiki. I was especially happy with Statue Park where each of the 5 puzzles including the exploratory variants had a different solving strategy.

Partiti was the favorite puzzle type in the set. Thanks to Thinh Van Duc Lai for introducing the puzzle type to all of us. I would also like to thank Ashish whose Partiti puzzles from WPC 2017 inspired the puzzles in this test.

The theme was obvious in some types like Statue Park and Battleship but a bit more obscure in Futoshiki and Ripple Effect. This is the 10th year of LMI so I though the theme would be appropriate for this contest.

Thanks to all the participants for adding colour to the event and providing valuable feedback. Congrats to all the participants who were able to complete the set in the allotted time. I hope others enjoyed solving the rest of the puzzles offline. Do post here if you are stuck on any of the puzzles and I would be glad to provide hints on my intended solving path.

The time count in the homepage is confusing. I wanted to start test while it was declaring the test will end in 50 minutes. But, I could not start the test in the contest page, as it said I should have started 40 minutes earlier.

Can anyone give some hints for solving Partiti-3? I was able to prove that the bottom left corner has a 2 under an 8, and the bottom right corner has a 3 under a 7 (i.e. those four boxes only have a single number in them). But past that I'm pretty stuck.

Edited by ghirsch 2018-03-01 12:59 AM

Since all the number appear in a cluster (11, 10, 9, 8 and 7) identify the possible combinations for these numbers so that can appear together in a 2X2 box of cells.

Thanks Amit, I really enjoyed the puzzle set. The Partiti puzzles in particular were a lot of fun, though they feel very slow to solve to me.

(Also I can see that it would be a tough set for for the usual PR target group.)

What's the password for this? It's not showing on the contest page itself.

PW = 2isharderthan1

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