Numbers - 26th-28th Sep - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
@ 2015-09-15 9:44 PM (#19393) (#19393) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-09-15 9:44 PM





Link for rules and other details about Puzzle Ramayan : http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2015-16PR.asp
Instructions for Numbers - http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201509_2/

@ 2015-09-18 10:11 AM (#19417 - in reply to #19393) (#19417) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-09-18 10:11 AM

IB published.
@ 2015-09-18 10:26 AM (#19418 - in reply to #19417) (#19418) Top

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harmeet posted @ 2015-09-18 10:26 AM

Looking forward to it.

Please correct the typo in the title "26th-18th Sep".

Thanks,
Harmeet
@ 2015-09-18 10:27 AM (#19419 - in reply to #19418) (#19419) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-09-18 10:27 AM

harmeet - 2015-09-18 10:26 AM

Please correct the typo in the title "26th-18th Sep".
Done.
@ 2015-09-18 11:20 AM (#19420 - in reply to #19393) (#19420) Top

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mjaipal posted @ 2015-09-18 11:20 AM

I think the instructions on page 8 (easy as ABC numbers) are not appropriate. please check
@ 2015-09-18 12:07 PM (#19421 - in reply to #19420) (#19421) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-09-18 12:07 PM

mjaipal - 2015-09-18 11:20 AM

I think the instructions on page 8 (easy as ABC numbers) are not appropriate. please check
Fixed.
@ 2015-09-25 10:40 PM (#19456 - in reply to #19393) (#19456) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-09-25 10:40 PM

Numbers round has started

• Submission link - http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201509_2/
• Score page and Feedback - http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201509_2/score.asp

@ 2015-09-25 10:44 PM (#19457 - in reply to #19393) (#19457) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-09-25 10:44 PM

We noticed that very few players are rating individual puzzles these days, especially in last episode of PR. So we have decided to disable the puzzle rating feature. Instead, we have added a question in the feedback page.
@ 2015-09-26 1:43 AM (#19458 - in reply to #19393) (#19458) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-09-26 1:43 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kropki
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-26 2:09 AM (#19459 - in reply to #19393) (#19459) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-09-26 2:09 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Magic Snail
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


@ 2015-09-26 6:00 AM (#19460 - in reply to #19393) (#19460) Top

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David McNeill posted @ 2015-09-26 6:00 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kakuro
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too few pages / too small grids


@ 2015-09-26 12:27 PM (#19461 - in reply to #19393) (#19461) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-09-26 12:27 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Skyscrapers
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-26 1:48 PM (#19462 - in reply to #19393) (#19462) Top

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Chandrashekhar posted @ 2015-09-26 1:48 PM

Can this be solved online?
@ 2015-09-26 1:50 PM (#19463 - in reply to #19462) (#19463) Top

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Chandrashekhar - 2015-09-26 1:48 PM

Can this be solved online?
Online solving is available only for selected Sudoku tests. For puzzle tests like this one, online solving is not available.
@ 2015-09-26 2:29 PM (#19464 - in reply to #19393) (#19464) Top

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kousek-nebe posted @ 2015-09-26 2:29 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Magic Snail
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-26 2:58 PM (#19466 - in reply to #19393) (#19466) Top

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TiiT posted @ 2015-09-26 2:58 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Magic Snail
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-26 4:28 PM (#19467 - in reply to #19393) (#19467) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2015-09-26 4:28 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kakuro
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-27 12:28 AM (#19469 - in reply to #19393) (#19469) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-09-27 12:28 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Easy As ABC
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-09-27 2:11 AM (#19470 - in reply to #19393) (#19470) Top

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rob posted @ 2015-09-27 2:11 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Umm, can't have been intentional that the ABC skyscrapers was the same as the practice puzzle in the instructions booklet, can it?
@ 2015-09-27 3:05 AM (#19472 - in reply to #19393) (#19472) Top

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northkk posted @ 2015-09-27 3:05 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Magic Snail
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thank you.
I enjoyed this test very much.
@ 2015-09-27 8:18 AM (#19475 - in reply to #19393) (#19475) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-09-27 8:18 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kakuro
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-27 12:59 PM (#19476 - in reply to #19393) (#19476) Top

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lenson posted @ 2015-09-27 12:59 PM

Darn, I failed to notice that the ABC skyscrapers was the same as in the IB till just after the test was over. In my opinion, that puzzle should not be considered for the rankings.
@ 2015-09-27 2:16 PM (#19477 - in reply to #19393) (#19477) Top

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lenson posted @ 2015-09-27 2:16 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kropki
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Maybe it's just me, but Kakuro-1 was way too hard for the 2 points it was worth. The rest of the Kakuros were relatively smooth solves.

It would have been nice to have an ABC Skyscrapers puzzle different from the one in the IB. I get that it was not intentional, but this puzzle gives an unfair advantage to the ones who noticed early that the puzzle is the same as in the IB.

I really enjoyed solving the Kropkis. Kropki-3 is my favourite for the set.
@ 2015-09-27 4:10 PM (#19478 - in reply to #19393) (#19478) Top

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gaurav.kjain posted @ 2015-09-27 4:10 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kakuro
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-27 4:27 PM (#19479 - in reply to #19393) (#19479) Top

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Swagatam posted @ 2015-09-27 4:27 PM

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Yes, ABC Skyscraper is exactly the same as on the IB. I noticed it after the test. It gives advantages to those who noticed it early.

The puzzles from Puzzle Booklet shouldn't be the same as on IB. It would have been good and fair.
@ 2015-09-27 4:32 PM (#19480 - in reply to #19393) (#19480) Top

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MrLiang posted @ 2015-09-27 4:32 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Skyscrapers
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-27 4:49 PM (#19481 - in reply to #19393) (#19481) Top

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Swagatam posted @ 2015-09-27 4:49 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Skyscrapers
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2015-09-27 5:17 PM (#19482 - in reply to #19393) (#19482) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-09-27 5:17 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kakuro
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-27 6:34 PM (#19483 - in reply to #19393) (#19483) Top

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peluri posted @ 2015-09-27 6:34 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Magic Snail
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-27 6:35 PM (#19484 - in reply to #19476) (#19484) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-09-27 6:35 PM

lenson - 2015-09-27 12:59 PM

Darn, I failed to notice that the ABC skyscrapers was the same as in the IB till just after the test was over. In my opinion, that puzzle should not be considered for the rankings.


I am sure it wasn't intended. Conversely, if we are advocating for something fair, how is it fair if A solved the puzzle over 3 attempts and B solved it over one attempt, and both got a bonus? What time should be removed with the puzzle? Or if someone tried that puzzle and because of that didn't manage to finish other puzzles?

Overall, even though its a mistake, I don't think just striking it off is a viable solution now. Even I failed to notice (had a strong feeling, but went ahead and solved it without any memory of doing the same steps before). If other top solvers failed to make it an advantage too, it is definitely a better solution to just leave things as they are.
@ 2015-09-27 9:43 PM (#19485 - in reply to #19393) (#19485) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2015-09-27 9:43 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Easy As ABC
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-28 12:05 AM (#19486 - in reply to #19393) (#19486) Top

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petpar55 posted @ 2015-09-28 12:05 AM

I can not open the puzzles. Sead icorect pasvord, and no more link to pasvort. What I can do? The time is passing.
@ 2015-09-28 1:33 AM (#19487 - in reply to #19393) (#19487) Top

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petpar55 posted @ 2015-09-28 1:33 AM

I LOST MOR THAN 15 MINITS AND MEAN THAT YOU WILL TAKE MY ANSWER AZ IN TIME. Magic Snail - 3 (3 points) XACBA . If it is corect!
Thanks!
@ 2015-09-28 7:23 AM (#19488 - in reply to #19393) (#19488) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2015-09-28 7:23 AM

Is there a trick to solving kropki 3 (the one with only four dots)? I couldn't think of any ways to approach it.
@ 2015-09-28 9:10 AM (#19489 - in reply to #19488) (#19489) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-09-28 9:10 AM

ghirsch - 2015-09-28 7:23 AM

Is there a trick to solving kropki 3 (the one with only four dots)? I couldn't think of any ways to approach it.

All the 4 given dots are across columns, none of them are across rows. So row-wise, 3 can have neighbours as 1 or 5 horizontally, similarly 2 can have only horizontal neigbhours as 5 and 6. 4 can have only 2 neighbours as well.
Using this helps a bit, but even otherwise, the particular puzzle solves row wise (you can put all the digits in row 2, then row 3, then row 1, then rows 4,5/6).
Hope that helps, else I can be more specific.
@ 2015-09-28 10:54 AM (#19490 - in reply to #19489) (#19490) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2015-09-28 10:54 AM

debmohanty - 2015-09-27 10:10 AM

ghirsch - 2015-09-28 7:23 AM

Is there a trick to solving kropki 3 (the one with only four dots)? I couldn't think of any ways to approach it.

All the 4 given dots are across columns, none of them are across rows. So row-wise, 3 can have neighbours as 1 or 5 horizontally, similarly 2 can have only horizontal neigbhours as 5 and 6. 4 can have only 2 neighbours as well.
Using this helps a bit, but even otherwise, the particular puzzle solves row wise (you can put all the digits in row 2, then row 3, then row 1, then rows 4,5/6).
Hope that helps, else I can be more specific.


Thanks, that makes sense now. By the way, great job with this test, I especially liked the Easy as ABC Numbers (a variant that I don't see very often and that you made especially fun by having all fo the numbers be the same) and the Magic Snails (especially the last one which, like the practice example, had a repeated letter).
@ 2015-09-28 2:45 PM (#19493 - in reply to #19393) (#19493) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-09-28 2:45 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Easy As ABC
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-28 3:19 PM (#19494 - in reply to #19393) (#19494) Top

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tamz29 posted @ 2015-09-28 3:19 PM

My worst result in 3 years.
The puzzles aren't to blame - they were great. Kropki-3 and Kropkuro stood out the most. Very nice!
Although I'm not happy to learn that the ABC-Skyscrapers was given an answer before hand, since I solved from front to back and that pretty much ruined my test :(
@ 2015-09-28 6:32 PM (#19495 - in reply to #19393) (#19495) Top

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misko posted @ 2015-09-28 6:32 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kakuro
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-28 6:55 PM (#19496 - in reply to #19393) (#19496) Top

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shirshakg2016 posted @ 2015-09-28 6:55 PM

where is the password?? for puzzle ramayana
@ 2015-09-28 7:55 PM (#19498 - in reply to #19393) (#19498) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-09-28 7:55 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Easy As ABC
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-28 8:04 PM (#19499 - in reply to #19393) (#19499) Top

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Richard posted @ 2015-09-28 8:04 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kropki
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Very nice set of puzzles Deb! Didn't expect anything else, by the way. :-)
I was so much focused on finishing the Kropkuro that I didn't realise that I completely forgot to enter the solution codes of the Skyscrapers.
When I realised it, it was too late (5 seconds remaining.) I can't blame anyone but myself for such a stupid mistake. :-( And in the end I couldn't finish the Kropkuro as well...

The third kropki was really fabulous! Very well done!
@ 2015-09-28 8:42 PM (#19500 - in reply to #19499) (#19500) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-09-28 8:42 PM

Richard - 2015-09-28 8:04 PM

The third kropki was really fabulous! Very well done!
The third Kropki was inspired after a discussion with my friend Rohan, who said "I find Kropki one of those 'who is fastest at trial and error' type of puzzles. I never try to find an opening, very time consuming."

I hope he finds this puzzle otherwise.
@ 2015-09-28 8:59 PM (#19501 - in reply to #19494) (#19501) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-09-28 8:59 PM

tamz29 - 2015-09-28 3:19 PM

Although I'm not happy to learn that the ABC-Skyscrapers was given an answer before hand, since I solved from front to back and that pretty much ruined my test :(


About ABC-Skyscrapers
First thing is that, as at least some players have guessed, it was a mistake. It was certainly not intentional. (I hope to learn from this mistake, but that is separate).
Anyway, so this mistake was brought to my notice about 12 hours into the test. At that time, I quickly checked all the players (17 in all) timings who have submitted the specific puzzle. I could see the time taken to solve this puzzle in about 15 cases, and all those cases convinced me that "players generally don't solve the puzzles in the IB". Even after 70 submissions as of now, I still stick to that belief. Yes, there might couple of stray cases of players getting benefited from having solved the IB puzzle, but that is extremely few.

So, there was a mistake from the author, and when that happens, there is rarely an option which is fair to everyone. So I decided not to change anything - which I think is the next to fairest option.
@ 2015-09-28 9:06 PM (#19502 - in reply to #19490) (#19502) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-09-28 9:06 PM

ghirsch - 2015-09-28 10:54 AM

By the way, great job with this test, I especially liked the Easy as ABC Numbers (a variant that I don't see very often and that you made especially fun by having all fo the numbers be the same) and the Magic Snails (especially the last one which, like the practice example, had a repeated letter).

Thanks for the note.
In retrospect, I think not having a "D" clue in Easy As ABC - 1 was slightly misleading, even though 1) A-D was clearly marked at the top 2) instructions included "Each row and column contains one blank cell.".
I see lot of submissions for this puzzle as XX, which means players are solving with A-C, not with A-D. I could have swapped the 1st one with 3rd one.
@ 2015-09-28 11:24 PM (#19503 - in reply to #19393) (#19503) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-09-28 11:24 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kakuro
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-29 1:24 AM (#19504 - in reply to #19393) (#19504) Top

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shirshakg2016 posted @ 2015-09-29 1:24 AM

Hi ,
I am new here. How do we solve the magic snail puzzles?
@ 2015-09-29 6:45 AM (#19505 - in reply to #19393) (#19505) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-09-29 6:45 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Easy As ABC
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-09-29 6:53 AM (#19506 - in reply to #19457) (#19506) Top

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brecher92 posted @ 2015-09-29 6:53 AM

Administrator - 2015-09-25 12:44 PM

We noticed that very few players are rating individual puzzles these days, especially in last episode of PR. So we have decided to disable the puzzle rating feature. Instead, we have added a question in the feedback page.


I'm relatively new here, and I don't think I've ever seen a link that allowed me to rate puzzles individually. Maybe if the link were more prominent I would have seen it...?
@ 2015-09-29 8:03 AM (#19507 - in reply to #19393) (#19507) Top

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devarajand posted @ 2015-09-29 8:03 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kropki
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-09-29 9:12 AM (#19508 - in reply to #19506) (#19508) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-09-29 9:12 AM

brecher92 - 2015-09-29 6:53 AM

Administrator - 2015-09-25 12:44 PM

We noticed that very few players are rating individual puzzles these days, especially in last episode of PR. So we have decided to disable the puzzle rating feature. Instead, we have added a question in the feedback page.


I'm relatively new here, and I don't think I've ever seen a link that allowed me to rate puzzles individually. Maybe if the link were more prominent I would have seen it...?
We never had a separate link for rating the puzzles. There are "stars" next to the puzzle name in the submission page. See this submission page for example (you need to login)
@ 2015-09-29 11:37 AM (#19509 - in reply to #19501) (#19509) Top

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amitsowani posted @ 2015-09-29 11:37 AM

debmohanty - 2015-09-28 8:59 PM
About ABC-Skyscrapers and all those cases convinced me that "players generally don't solve the puzzles in the IB"..


I agree with Deb on this one. Most seasoned players who have are familiar with the puzzle types, usually will not devote time in solving the IB.
I did not know about this issue till reading the discussion after completing the test.

I also missed out on the repeated alphabets thing in the fourth magic snail. I solved for ABC instead of ABBC. Reading the IB more carefully would have definitely helped ;)

Overall it was an awesome test, with difficulty level a bit on the higher side. For me Kropki (3) and Easy as ABC numbers (4) were the standout puzzles.


@ 2015-09-29 11:39 AM (#19510 - in reply to #19393) (#19510) Top

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vopani posted @ 2015-09-29 11:39 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Magic Snail
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Enjoyed the puzzles. Spent too much time on the harder ones and disappointed with not completing the set.
But this was a top-notch set of puzzles, with some wonderful solving paths.

debmohanty - 2015-09-28 8:42 PM

The third Kropki was inspired after a discussion with my friend Rohan, who said "I find Kropki one of those 'who is fastest at trial and error' type of puzzles. I never try to find an opening, very time consuming."

I hope he finds this puzzle otherwise.

Well, I still guessed :-)
But beautiful Kropki.
@ 2015-09-29 12:53 PM (#19511 - in reply to #19504) (#19511) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-09-29 12:53 PM

shirshakg2016 - 2015-09-29 1:24 AM

Hi ,
I am new here. How do we solve the magic snail puzzles?


Can you point to a particular puzzle? Someone will give the steps for that one so you can understand it better in general.
@ 2015-09-29 12:56 PM (#19512 - in reply to #19509) (#19512) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-09-29 12:56 PM

amitsowani - 2015-09-29 11:37 AM

I also missed out on the repeated alphabets thing in the fourth magic snail. I solved for ABC instead of ABBC. Reading the IB more carefully would have definitely helped ;)



I missed this too and had to re-solve, among numerous other things I missed (I even got stuck for a good while on two of the Skyscrapers!). In fact, I was really expecting Rohan/you to beat me on this one.
@ 2015-09-29 2:38 PM (#19513 - in reply to #19393) (#19513) Top

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marred posted @ 2015-09-29 2:38 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Skyscrapers
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-09-29 3:52 PM (#19515 - in reply to #19393) (#19515) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-09-29 3:52 PM

Congratulations to Hideaki, Endo & Michael for topping the international chart, and to Prasanna, Amit & Rohan for topping the Indian chart.

It has been voted correctly that the set had too many medium difficulty puzzles, and I agree with that. Few easier ones would have made it more accessible.

Here is the result of voting for puzzle types : Kakuro > Easy As ABC > Magic Snail > Kropki > Skyscrapers (I'm not at all surprised to see the Skyscrapers at the bottom).

Thank you everyone for participating. We have one month break now, we will resume with Sudoku Mahabharat after WSC/WPC.

New players : If there is any specific Puzzle in which you got stuck, feel free to post here and we will guide you through. (Please be specific about a puzzle. Answering questions like how to solve a puzzle type is difficult. But if you ask about a particular puzzle, we will be quick to respond)
@ 2015-09-29 3:57 PM (#19516 - in reply to #19393) (#19516) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-09-29 3:57 PM

Solutions appended to puzzle booklet.
@ 2015-09-30 9:40 AM (#19517 - in reply to #19512) (#19517) Top

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amitsowani posted @ 2015-09-30 9:40 AM

prasanna16391 - 2015-09-29 12:56 PM

amitsowani - 2015-09-29 11:37 AM

I also missed out on the repeated alphabets thing in the fourth magic snail. I solved for ABC instead of ABBC. Reading the IB more carefully would have definitely helped ;)



I missed this too and had to re-solve, among numerous other things I missed (I even got stuck for a good while on two of the Skyscrapers!). In fact, I was really expecting Rohan/you to beat me on this one.


Potentially one way to avoid this issue is to have a different word with repeating alphabets instead of "ABBC", like "LOOP" in the IB.

@ 2015-09-30 9:52 AM (#19518 - in reply to #19517) (#19518) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-09-30 9:52 AM

amitsowani - 2015-09-30 9:40 AM

Potentially one way to avoid this issue is to have a different word with repeating alphabets instead of "ABBC", like "LOOP" in the IB.


Possibly yes. But I was under the impression that having a random set of letters is not necessarily good. Everyone is more familiar with ABC. (I couldn't have used LOOP because the O's were confusing with circles).

It never occurred to me that players will start solving it as ABC (didn't we have 2 Bs given in one of the columns?). I had my doubts on Easy As ABC - 1, but not on this one.

@ 2015-10-29 10:20 AM (#19717 - in reply to #19393) (#19717) Top

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vopani posted @ 2015-10-29 10:20 AM

I'm unable to sort the results in ascending order of any column after clicking on 'Show All Results' :-(